Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #33

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Yellowstone "Zone of death" debunked, but it could still have played a part:

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(snipped) In addition to that, the same Lori's friend said that Lori told her (this was early 2019) that Charles was already dead and that his body was inhabited by an evil spirit. Lori also told her that Tylee was a dark spirit.

This is well beyond Charles making "false claims" about Nick Schneider in his divorce documents.."
Yep, well beyond, and also corroboration. She also corroborates Chad's writings about Tylee being a dark spirit (she said Lori used those exact words when describing her) and to some extent, Ian's writings. I expect to see her on the stand for the prosecution.
 
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Someone posted earlier today the reminder that the 144,000 had to get rid of their kids and other baggage, not by killing them but by putting them with others, at least I think that was here."
I believe the neighbor in Hawaii's quote was that in order to join the other 144,000, she couldn't have her children with her. She didn't say that Lori said to "stash them away." Believers in this nonsense might just interpret that to mean, get rid of them any way they saw fit on their way to joining the new group.
 
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Both interviews I’ve watched with mom and sis, I’ve noticed sis has very strange eye movements and blinking patterns. Would love an expert opinion on what that could indicate. Also of note, on 48 hours tonight, when asked about LVD being in a cult, they first laugh it off and then mom says, “Not that WE know of”. Huh....could it be that simple??

I wonder how CD rates the mother & the sister.
-Rating people- sounds like the Narcissist way of thinning down the herd.
Narcs usually get their flying monkeys (brain washed) people to do their dirty work. Then dispose of, ghost or -blame shift 0n to- the very ones they used.
If you are not isolated, brain washed & totally worshiping them your days are numbered.
Why hasn’t CD sold his house or liquidated things to get LVD out?
CD might even have a secondary love interest lined up,waiting.
My hope is for CD to become incarcerated, then we will see how his sicko house of cards falls.

MOO
 
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April Raymond: Basically, that I would — need to separate myself from my children and join her and … find the other chosen ones so that we could all be together. … I respectfully declined her offer because that was just— was going too far.

i am 99% sure if lori had of told her she needed to "KILL" her children they would have made that very clear in the interview and it would be in all the headlines, That's not to say loris intentions were not to eventually take things down that route once April had been recruited.
 
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I wonder how CD rates the mother & the sister.
-Rating people- sounds like the Narcissist way of thinning down the herd.
Narcs usually get their flying monkeys (brain washed) people to do their dirty work. Then dispose of, ghost or -blame shift 0n to- the very ones they used.
If you are not isolated, brain washed & totally worshiping them your days are numbered.
Why hasn’t CD sold his house or liquidated things to get LVD out?
CD might even have a secondary love interest lined up,waiting.
My hope is for CD to become incarcerated, then we will see how his sicko house of cards falls.

MOO

Mother and sister are both rated 3L.

Justin Lum Fox 10 on Twitter
 
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Why hasn’t CD sold his house or liquidated things to get LVD out?
CD might even have a secondary love interest lined up,waiting.
My hope is for CD to become incarcerated, then we will see how his sicko house of cards falls.

MOO
BBM. He would need to raise $1 mil in collateral. His assets aren't worth nearly enough.
 
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BBM. He would need to raise $1 mil in collateral. His assets aren't worth nearly enough.

Speaking of assets. I wonder how that purchase of the modular home is going. Jmo
 
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Quite awhile back there was a statement that the public is aware of 80% of the case. Can someone point me to that source?
 
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Not to mention IP is from Arizona and so is his family and they lived across from one another.
Someone we have discussed had and may still have a dating site , but IMOO it makes more sense that CD and or LVD introduced MBP and IP .
IP is from California. It has been mentioned here that his parents are now in AZ... but his father had a business in CA....no not sure when or why they came to AZ
 
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We are allowed to sleuth Chad because LE called him a POI in the children's disappearance.

We are only allowed to link things like blogs if you are 100% certain it's his website.

His book blog has been allowed in the past: cdaybell.com | The Official Website for Chad Daybell

If it's something else that is not verified to be written by him, then probably better not to link it or to message a mod to ask first (I am not a mod, this is my interpretation of the rules).

MOO = My Opinion Only
I’ll share what I found as it is that website I came across. Still processing some things. But after reading this, I definitely had lots of ah ha moments. Jmo
Behind the Scenes of An Errand for Emma | cdaybell.com
 
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I have thought about that too. Why wouldn't her attorney tell her to confess about where her children are? I have theories IMOO I thought one theory may be that the attorney may be involved somehow. " sounds far fetched, but possible" I have also thought that maybe since LVD has already changed attorneys that she has not told where the children are or she has told them that she is waiting for someone to contact her with the answer as to where they are and she really doesn't know.
The family claiming that she doesn't trust law enforcement is a load of crap , but she can always say that it was because the system failed her regarding her complaints about JR. She went to the authorities with complaints of abuse , but there was not enough evidence. LVD still made it impossible for JR to see TR. IMO although LVD took MG and TR with her to file the police report regarding her stolen purse, she can say that she took them as support because she didn't trust them . However, IMOO I feel as if the officer is either a good friend or possibly also has the same beliefs as her and CD. I will.try again to upload the video of the said situation to refresh your memory, but IMO the officer did everything to get LVD out of the police station before CV got back there.
The officer told her basically that if she was not there when CV returned that the police could not make her go for a mental health evaluation and the police DO NOT come knock on doors to find people when someone makes a request for such evaluations. In addition the officer told her that if she was there when CV returned that she would have to go get an evaluation, so if she had things to do to go ahead and do them . ( not exactly the wording).
Didn't her attorney say something like that would be the remedy when the prosecutor suggested producing the kids as a condition of bail? That to me would be a great outcome. Or even produce one of them? So why is she sitting in jail when producing the kids would end all this? To me there is only one answer to that and it is because she can't, because they are dead. MOO.
 
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Just finished watching the 48 Hour special. There is something very wrong with LV's mom & sister, very creepy vibes. How old is Janice?
Yes I just finished watching this morning. They are beyond reality at this point too JMO I wanted him to ask.......” since Lori did such a good job of hiding the kids why didn’t she go with them?” If she loves them she would have and she would be beyond persecution. No one would have found her yet. Makes no sense she just didn’t “hide” them!
 
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Lori asked Chad to "rate" her children? Tylee rated "4.1 D" as in "Dark". If Tylee was killed and buried in Yellowstone NP. She will never be found.

I wonder if Lori and Chad watch the shows about them?
I wonder if Chad rated is family??
 
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12 weeks and one day since LVD was arrested.

85 days behind bars and her mouth remains zipped shut with respect to the whereabouts and well-being of the children God graced her with to love and raise.

CD still free as a bird and unable or unwilling to commit his assets or to convince others to commit theirs to bounce her. Same with Summer and Janis.

They all speak most loudly when they don’t use words.
 
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Hiding the kids .... just reminds me of the missing Wife, Shelly Miscavige.
She is the wife of David Miscavige, the head of Scientology. She disappeared and no one has seen her.
Where are these people being hid...or are they dead? If they are alive I am surprised that not one person from inside, has come forth to help them, not one person has the decency! It is darn scary. JMOO I think they are all dead an out of the hands of these strange beings....that is saying it nicely.


Where Is Shelly Miscavige? Scientology Leader's Wife Not Seen for a Decade
 
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