Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #34

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Well we got hopeful for awhile.

Meanwhile, Justin Lum posted this "wait for it" teaser almost 24 hours ago. I dunno what it's about, but he's another of our hero reporters.

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

It also has a camera and @mrs.lum in the caption. I'm assuming that means his wife took the photo of him. He was probably waiting to do a live on-air news segment from his home or something. Due to Covid-19 most of the news anchors around the country are reporting from their homes whenever possible. It was probably not meant as a teaser for this case, LOL. :D:p MOO.
 
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dbm already answered
 
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Where are these children???

Why is there not a trace of them? Do authorities have any leads at all? Anything pointing them in a certain direction?

I'm worried that they will never be found, because it doesn't seem the investigation is progressing. The bizarre twists and turns are interesting and important, but they're becoming a distraction from the crucial goal of finding the children.
Imo I think they have some leads but since it’s a case involving children and it’s still an active investigation, they will release information if they want help with something or if they found them or if they want to share anything that might convince someone to say something.
https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/first-presidency-limited-reopening-temples
 
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Here's the YT link

 
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With this new info from MG about their temple visits together though, we can suppose that LE will have requested surveillance from temple car parks or details of bookings of rooms or similar visits perhaps.

Also, wouldn't the church challenge CD about this alleged misuse of temple premises? Plotting and meeting up behind the backs of spouses is one thing, involving a holy place in those plans is quite another thing.

MOO

This has been a question of mine all along. We keep hearing about all this within the temple, recommends etc. are private or secret, or "we will never know". But I would suspect the LDS Church has been here before .........for who knows what. Would they offer anything to LE? Would they provide surveillance data if asked? Would the purposefully find Chad if they did want to take actions? I just wonder because all these folks do "throw around goin on down to the temple" a lot, when I assume it was just for some sort of prestige.
 
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We know they dont like talking to LE but what if a high standing leader of the church asked them to attend a meeting and flat out asked her where the kids are. Would they lie to them too?

I think they would lie to the church leaders too. According to Charles, Lori had already labeled one of the bishops as "a dark spirit" as of January 2019 (from the bodycam video of Charles here). So Chad could simply tell himself that the church leaders questioning him about the location of the kids are "dark spirits" and he has to lie to them for the completion of his "mission" (whatever that is). Just like Lori told Charles she would murder him if he got in the way of her mission to gather the 144,000. Charles ended up murdered, exactly as Lori warned. There is no use appealing to any authority with them-- since they believe they are gods it means no authority is higher than themselves (In their deluded minds). These people are dangerous and need to be locked up for good. I wouldn't trust anything they said even if they started talking to a church leader. The only way to get the truth is probably going to be if they have put it in some form of communication to each other at some point in the past. I hope the FBI has all of their burner phones and computers. I also keep hoping that maybe Chad is only free so that the FBI can watch him in case he inadvertently leads them to the location of the missing children (but they might also be waiting for Tammy's autopsy results before charges can be brought).

MOO.
 
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Oh my, just look at Nate's face expression when he hears and repeats that "Chad is sitting in the portal and receives info..." :D:confused::eek::D
I give him all my respect, he is so good!

ETA: I am 12 minutes through... even that we know a lot of this information, hearing it from MG is beyond bizarre, I just need to stop and process

ETA2: So LV and AC were definitely insane and believed that everyone around them is a zombie and wants to kill them. And at minimum CV was killed because of that.
This is beyond creepy.
 
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Yeah, at this point, I am waiting for the book. Maybe there will even be a movie. The whole entire situation is beyond weird. And I really wonder if the missing kids are just the tip of the ice berg.

Agreed. I've done a fair amount of work with the FBI over the years and find it a bit unusual that they would keep a mobile command post up in Rexburg all this time for a missing children case. But times change, and it could be the new normal.
 
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There are no words to describe my udder disappointment and anger in Lori and Chad..for both of them to supposedly be religious their whole lives and they couldn’t recognize they opened up a portal with the devil.... I’ve heard other people who claim to speak with souls who have pasted on that the danger in opening yourself up to spirits beyond the veil is that some of these spirits are evil and dangerous...
 
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So why would Lori have a 3 million dollar insurance policy but Charles only 1 million? Is that common for someone who stays home and doesn’t work?

My husband has an insurance policy on me but his insurance policy is worth a whole lot more. All jmo
 
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Agreed. I've done a fair amount of work with the FBI over the years and find it a bit unusual that they would keep a mobile command post up in Rexburg all this time for a missing children case. But times change, and it could be the new normal.
As of today it’s still here
 
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In part 2:

MG says she went up to Rexburg for a four day weekend to see Lori and Chad. JJ was present but Tylee was not, and Lori never even talked about Tylee. Lori told MG that JJ had already turned into a zombie, and pointed out behaviors of JJ's that MG didn't find strange at all. MG says Lori was trying to create uncertainty and doubt about JJ.

This is crazy.
 
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Well MG did admit that there are many others within the LDS community (I am assuming these fringe groups) that definitely believe in the whole "multiple mortal probations". Obviously, this is against traditional LDS, as well as traditional Christian teachings.

I wonder what else this fringe group believes? I think some of us had went down that rabbit hole previously. I am curious if anyone else, other than CD, has been teaching about these "zombies" though, that is some next level craziness.

MOO
 
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This woman makes me want to go into a rage.
 
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Part 3 tomorrow...

In part 3 of our interview, Gibb discusses Tammy Daybell’s death, confronting Lori and Chad about the missing children, where she thinks JJ and Tylee are, and the message she has for her friend who now sits behind bars. It will be posted Thursday on EastIdahoNews.com at 8 a.m. MDT.
 
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dbm
 
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As I'm watching this, I feel like MG should have alerted police or mental health professionals immediately when Lori suggested JJ had become a zombie. She should have intervened on these profoundly disturbed and dangerous people.
 
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