Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #40

[Forever Young]

Really good video. If you haven’t watched, you should.

I viewed this last night as a matter of fact!

 

[gumchew]

Given that there is some slight doubt about whether or not MG was the woman podcaster picked up by LVD and AxC on the day the nanny was at LVD's home, is it possible that the visitor on Sept. 19 was ZP? I believe she has done a few podcasts, and this might explain why AxC went along to the airport.

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I don't think there's really any doubt. MG's account and the nanny's statement to police line up on the Sept 19th visit.

 

[Grixote]

MG’s letter is good, she seems sincere and reiterated her negative outlook on Chad’s bs.

It seems so fascinating that folks not only believe that Satan literally exists, but that he would take part in the most insipid of insipid folks’ affairs. At bottom, Chad and Lori just wanted to bang. And Lori wanted to pilfer more free money. I don’t see the need for gods and devils in that equation.

They are weak, lying, base people who committed vile crimes because they wanted to. God and Satan has nothing to do with it, it’s just garden variety pettiness and crime.

Thankfully only Lori and Chad can pay the bill through the justice system.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Pretty sure I saw the screenshot here, too. Quite a ways back and have no idea now where it is now.

I posted it here: Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #37

 

[Forever Young]

Okay .... AC was a truck driver do they not have to have a physical ? IMO his health history would have shown that he had some issues prior to the incident before his death?

My brother has drove trucks. They have an annual DOT physical, but most for a drug screen and see how much they can lift. Not an intensive physical. BTW, I have never heard that blood clots are "common" in truck drivers. Sure, could possibly contribute if there was a pre-existing condition, but not "common".

 

[montegrl]

I think she knew the children had died. She didn't have a believable story about where they were from Lori, which I find quite frankly ludicrous, MG called her after she had fled her apartment when the others did, with nowhere to go for Thanksgiving, knowing the police had come looking for JJ, didn't return the police call until the day after they broke down her door, Alex and Chad were telling her to move to a different jurisdiction, and she was in a great rush to get married to a man she had only known for about a week, probably with the same idea Alex had, to change her name too.

I love sprouts too.

I agree with this, you said it perfectly!! She was definitely all-in on the narrative and is only trying to cover her tracks now. And on a side note, it really bothers me that she calls CD her uncle after the way that family treated CV. Just had to vent. MOO

 

[indicolite22]

Given that there is some slight doubt about whether or not MG was the woman podcaster picked up by LVD and AxC on the day the nanny was at LVD's home, is it possible that the visitor on Sept. 19 was ZP? I believe she has done a few podcasts, and this might explain why AxC went along to the airport.

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But MG WAS there in September. She saw JJ, so it probably wasn't after the 23rd. MG knew ZP from church, not from podcasts, and probably so did Lori. She wouldn't describe her as a podcaster.

 

[SteelCity91]

Wasn’t he cremated?

I think they were talking about Alex and no he was not cremated.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Pretty sure I saw the screenshot here, too. Quite a ways back and have no idea now where it is now.

I posted it here: Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #37

My brother has drove trucks. They have an annual DOT physical, but most for a drug screen and see how much they can lift. Not an intensive physical. BTW, I have never heard that blood clots are "common" in truck drivers. Sure, could possibly contribute if there was a pre-existing condition, but not "common".

i would have to research, but I would think the blood clots, if likely would be in leg, not necessarily lungs, and two of them? Seems off to me. Yes, they can break off and travel from legs to lung, but that wasn’t noted either.

 

[indicolite22]

It was never asked of Melanie, that I saw, if there was ever an idea that Melanie marry Alex? She didn't seem to have a partner, or never mentions one, in order to be part of the 144,000. JMO

BBM. She did, but he is off-limits for discussion.

 

[Forever Young]

BBM. She did, but he is off-limits for discussion.

I can certainly understand that.

 

[Drc40]

yeah...what do you make of this part of her interview

MBP: So that morning, I called him and Ian was at work. He was somebody I could kind of just – you could tell him anything. He’s like a vault. I was just openly telling him about things in my new marriage, things that were challenging or things that were going really well, and he was just my best friend at that point. He shared some things that I just felt I needed to write them down when he started talking to me.

Eaton: Like what?

MBP: He said, “Melani, the most important thing in your marriage is to be loving, be supportive, and be patient.” And he kept repeating that and I was like – I need to remember that always. It was his last words to me, and I didn’t know that, but it was really just special like that. He just said, “Everything’s going to be fine, just keep moving forward, you’re going to have your kids back soon and everything’s going to work out. Just go on in faith.”

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I'm not sure that's what she was telling him because of a few of her words there, but I think it sounds like she knew he was dying that morning.

moo

I wish I knew the date she’s referring to but another circle game as far as I’m concerned. I don’t think we can believe anything she says. BB should be successful in his court case. This women is a disaster.

 

[KonaHonu]

Definitely hoping the police ask her the same questions. Is lying really qualified like this, it depends on who you lie to? I hope not.
MOO

Well of course lying is qualified, at least legally. People lie al the time. It is illegal to lie to the police though. But interestingy, it is not illegal for the police to lie to you.

 

[Sachi]

I think I missed being around to discuss this the first time. I looked at it again closely tonight. Two things struck me this time.

1. According to the charging document MG didn’t answer the phone when police called, which is exactly what she said Chad asked her to do. Who she presumably had spoken with right before police called! Then further, when they called her she didn’t tell them Chad asked her not to answer. So it took her 11 days (from November 26 to December 6) to decide to tell them the truth. Wow. Had she answered, she could’ve given enough cause for them to arrest then and there, I’d imagine. But she has no charges? Deal?

READ: The documents charging Lori Vallow Daybell | East Idaho News

2. The photo of Tylee at Yellowstone was from Lori’s iCloud. I guess that means they were able to access her cloud with a warrant? I hope so! That’s going to be a treasure trove I imagine! I am slightly surprised there wasn’t more included from the iCloud account. Thoughts?

Sorry if you guys have been thru this.

This video. I have not watched this. This is the first. This is bizarre.

 

[gumchew]

I posted it here: Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #37
i would have to research, but I would think the blood clots, if likely would be in leg, not necessarily lungs, and two of them? Seems off to me. Yes, they can break off and travel from legs to lung, but that wasn’t noted either.

Blood Clot Medical Terms Made Simple | Blood Clots

The greatest danger of blood clots is specifically that they break up and travel through your heart and into your lungs, as appears to have happened here. I can't speak to how common the bilateral part is, but this potentially fatal outcome is why blood clots are scary.

And yes it was called out in the medical examiner's report by use of the term thromboembolism.

 

[Sillybilly]

Hey everyone,

Due to a busy workload behind the curtain today, there is a delay in getting to all the Alerts that have come in. In the meantime ...

Rumors are NOT allowed. You can't make a post and say to the effect "I know it's rumor, but ...."

Also, do NOT sleuth anyone on a witness list. If their name is in MSM, you can discuss and speculate on what is said about them or what they have said in MSM, but you cannot sleuth out their personal information and post about it here.

Posts such as above have been Reported ... do not discuss them. Just give me time to get to them. It will happen, just can't guarantee when

Thanks for your cooperation.

 

[Forever Young]

Well of course lying is qualified, at least legally. People lie al the time. It is illegal to lie to the police though. But interestingy, it is not illegal for the police to lie to you.

Also, it is not illegal to remain silent and not incriminate yourself. When all this first started, and I was so hopeful that the children were being hidden with off-grid preppers, I really thought this was all about a test of Constitutional rights. Oh boy, was I wrong!

 

[utahobserver]

I think I missed being around to discuss this the first time. I looked at it again closely tonight. Two things struck me this time.

1. According to the charging document MG didn’t answer the phone when police called, which is exactly what she said Chad asked her to do. Who she presumably had spoken with right before police called! Then further, when they called her she didn’t tell them Chad asked her not to answer. So it took her 11 days (from November 26 to December 6) to decide to tell them the truth. Wow. Had she answered, she could’ve given enough cause for them to arrest then and there, I’d imagine. But she has no charges? Deal?

READ: The documents charging Lori Vallow Daybell | East Idaho News

2. The photo of Tylee at Yellowstone was from Lori’s iCloud. I guess that means they were able to access her cloud with a warrant? I hope so! That’s going to be a treasure trove I imagine! I am slightly surprised there wasn’t more included from the iCloud account. Thoughts?

Sorry if you guys have been thru this.

As some here may recall, I have had, and continue to have a problem with the 11 day gap. This supposed woman of faith, who published a letter on AVOW, a letter I have trouble reading as she talks in Bible-speak and appears to be seeking redemption for herself in the guise of warning others of Satan’s spell. All I see is a woman who is in a cult, got near the inner circle of the fringe splinter group and now cries woe. 11 days. I cannot get past that. I know many here think she is genuine, that she was scared, and are grateful for assistance to LE. I think she should have been charged as a co-conspirator. She was aware of Lori’s disappointment when Charles didn’t die as Chad prophesied, then Charles is shot by Alex. That she knew the so called “pendulum” was swinging and didn’t reach out to LE is plain wrong. Look how brave Natalie was. Look how brave Brandon was, and they actually tried to kill him. Were was Melanie’s courage? Where was her “agency”? It took the murders of children for her to find her voice. And now she is apologizing and warning preppers. Sheesh.

 

[arizonamomoffour]

Pretty sure I saw the screenshot here, too. Quite a ways back and have no idea now where it is now.

i saw it 48 hours may episode

 

[Ohmeohmy]

As some here may recall, I have had, and continue to have a problem with the 11 day gap. This supposed woman of faith, who published a letter on AVOW, a letter I have trouble reading as she talks in Bible-speak and appears to be seeking redemption for herself in the guise of warning others of Satan’s spell. All I see is a woman who is in a cult, got near the inner circle of the fringe splinter group and now cries woe. 11 days. I cannot get past that. I know many here think she is genuine, that she was scared, and are grateful for assistance to LE. I think she should have been charged as a co-conspirator. She was aware of Lori’s disappointment when Charles didn’t die as Chad prophesied, then Charles is shot by Alex. That she knew the so called “pendulum” was swinging and didn’t reach out to LE is plain wrong. Look how brave Natalie was. Look how brave Brandon was, and they actually tried to kill him. Were was Melanie’s courage? Where was her “agency”? It took the murders of children for her to find her voice. And now she is apologizing and warning preppers. Sheesh.

NAILED IT!