Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #41

[wenwe4]

I guess if I were to ask myself if the world were to end next week what would you want to do?
1) vacation in Hawaii
2) run off with abandon not giving a care in the world to anyone or anything
3) steal everyone's money so I could have unlimited funds to spend right up to the end
4) orchestrate a bunch of minions to do dirty deeds for me . . . .

so much to contemplate

 

[Forever Young]

I have to say I am disgusted at all these people speaking out now when they all could have come forward about exactly what they knew when CV was still alive. A lot of lives could have been saved. The whole lot of them that have given these interviews. I see we have another one on Monday. What is going on?

I have come across JR's YouTube channel and EP also has a YouTube channel. They have been speaking about this going several months back. Pretty interesting to look back now and listen to JR's visions on how the kids were OK. They both, at the time, held Chad in high regard.

I think they are back-tracking now and also taking advantage of the publicity now that JR's visions proved to be so drastically wrong. But they both did have personal information to share, as to their relationship with CD.

Their YouTube videos have come up in my suggested for you feed for several months.

 

[Forever Young]

Thanks. Do you know how these amounts are calculated?

Heck no! Social Security is very complicated to try to figure benefits, and based on the incomes of the decedents. So I think that $6K monthly is totally a ball-park guestimate.

 

[JoJoJoey2407]

Respectfully snipped. I'm just really confused by the word leo.
Do you mean leo as in the astrological sign? An "end of days" belief? That might kinda work, IMO, but where did it enter the case? In CD's books?
I hadn't really thought of astrology being in the picture, but not a whole lot would surprise me any more in this case, what with pendulums and portals and prior lives and zombies.... Not to mention, "my woo portal says TD will soon be in a car accident, so seize the opportunity to move towards a new relationship". And off rushes LV to Idaho, thinking TD would meet her imminent demise, and she had permission to shack up with the "new relationship", no scruples needed.
On a tangential subject, I wonder if CD got ideas for his prognostications from the astrology column in a local newspaper? He really doesn't seem creative in his own right: maybe he just cribbed all his woo writings?

LEO = Law Enforcement Officer

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Thanks. Are you sure about Lori attending the memorial on the 23rd?

According to a Verified insider, yes, sure. Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #14

 

[Nikynoo]

Heck no! Social Security is very complicated to try to figure benefits, and based on the incomes of the decedents. So I think that $6K monthly is totally a ball-park guestimate.

Thanks for this. I gather that CV was rather successful, so the benefits could have been quite high, but like you say, a total guesstimate.

 

[Nikynoo]

According to a Verified insider, yes, sure. Found Deceased - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #14

Yay! Thanks!!
ETA - it might be useful to do a timeline for each POI

 

[wnk]

There are a couple weird gaps in the timeline in October.

LORI
Oct 1-3 - in Rexburg (storage unit security footage)
Oct 4-22 - UNKNOWN
Oct 23 - in Rexburg (at Tammy's memorial - verified insider)
Oct 24-28 - UNKNOWN
Oct 29 - in Rexburg (neighbor's doorbell camera)
Oct 30-Nov 5 - UNKNOWN

MELANI
Oct 2 - at custody exchange w ex
Oct 22 - Notable here that she missed her court date
Oct 31 - Moving out of Rexburg with Alex's help

So if Melani was visiting Lori in Hawaii in October, it had to have been sometime from Oct 4-22 or Oct 24-28, since one or the other was known to be elsewhere the rest of the month.

Tammy was shot at Oct 9 and died Oct 19 -- was this trip to Hawaii meant to be Lori's alibi?

 

[The First Article]

Leaving this here before I finish listening, I have already gagged in the first 10 seconds.
EXCLUSIVE: 'Cult Mom' husband wanted his late wife dead, former friend tells Nancy Grace

edited to add new info- Or maybe just new to me.

Julie Rowe says chad was texting another woman before Lori and that woman’s husband knew and threatened to expose him.

Tammy was on antidepressants.

Chad didn’t want Lori to stop by once when she was in town because Tammy was off her meds and dealing with jealousy.

Reminds me of the advice by William Gibson that before you are diagnosed with depression assess if you are in fact surrounded by assholes.

TD probably was depressed for very understandable reasons - she was being profoundly abused and didn't know it because she wasn't being hit and people thought he was a good guy.

Imagine the people around your husband are helping him do this to you and don't see anything wrong with it while he continues to harm you more and more calling it godly. If this poor woman was "sealed" to this man I hope for her sake that someone undoes it for her even if it is ceremonial. What a horrifying idea.

 

[squareandrabbet]

Thanks for this. I gather that CV was rather successful, so the benefits could have been quite high, but like you say, a total guesstimate.

plus, in the US, while we calculate unemployment insurance on how much everyone is paid annually, there is a cap. For example, making 75k I was entitled to the maximum benefits per week allowable for New York State: but in NYC many people make six figures, and they wouldn’t get a penny more than I got, so there is that.

 

[Diddian]

Heck no! Social Security is very complicated to try to figure benefits, and based on the incomes of the decedents. So I think that $6K monthly is totally a ball-park guestimate.

I don't think it is correct that the $6,000 monthly is from Social Security. The $6,000 per month figure was provided by MG who said that Lori told her that she received that amount each month. IIRC from past discussions here (although I am not sure of sources), that amount was comprised of: TR received a monthly survivor benefit that was provided through her biological father's estate (Joe Ryan) and would have received a lump sum payment from that account when she reached a certain age (17 or 18); and, as parent/caretakers of an adopted special-needs child, LV and CV may have been awarded (by either the state or Social Security or some combination of the two) some monthly amount for JJ's care in association with that adoption. I don't remember whether MG learned of the $6,000 figure before or after CV died, so do not know if the $6,000 included Social Security survivor benefits that JJ would have been entitled to when CV died.

 

[Redvines86]

RSBM for focus


CALLED IT! This is what I have suspected all along and have stated it elsewhere -- that I thought it very unlikely that this was his first time off the reservation (cheating). CD having visions of TD's death seems to predate the LV affair, too, and I bet that lines up with the previous affair. This guy was unhappy in his marriage and looking for an exit. I just hope that other husband (or wife!) has contacted the authorities and shared details. JMO

And thank you for linking this interview, as new info is so hard to come by lately!

The thing is though, JR is very much an unreliable witness. I don't think she knows the difference between her imagination and what really happened. MO

 

[Colorado303]

dbm

 

[indicolite22]

Another source for Lori's attendance of Tammy's memorial service in Rexburg:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...pfather-found-11.500762/page-64#post-15779692

 

[spandangly]

ETA: this removed the quote I was replying to about how AR seems like the only reliable person being interviewed.

It's because she was never [weak-minded enough to be] involved with any of these groups, IMHO.

Sorry, not sorry.

 

[Teche]

Who refers to a service dog as it?? Well, the Cox grandmother.

 

[A2FMNST]

Reminds me of the advice by William Gibson that before you are diagnosed with depression assess if you are in fact surrounded by assholes.

SBM One of my favorite quotes. I do have clinical depression, but *I* always remind myself that you CAN have depression AND negative, nasty, a hole people around you. People like this are a strain on people without depression and for me, well they are just toxic. I’ve had to clean house before and I don’t ever invite them back in.

 

[wenwe4]

I am watching the LEO body cam of CV explaining LVD's belief she is married to Moroni - CV stated LVD has "done Priesthood blessings" and is going to the temple every day. He stated she recently "had a break".
Is CV saying that LVD has elevated herself to "holding the Priesthood"? (ie: Priesthood is only reserved for males in the LDS faith - unless that has changed very very recently).

 

[gumchew]

SEE IT: ‘Cult mom’ husband Chad Daybell made advances to a married woman before meeting Lori Vallow, former friend tells Nancy Grace
Rowe told Grace that there was another woman in Arizona before Lori Vallow whom Chad had been texting. That went haywire when the woman’s husband intercepted the texts and told Daybell he’d go public with them if Daybell didn’t leave his wife alone.

Rowe, who said Daybell had also made sexual advances toward her, said that as far as she knew, she and the Arizona woman were the only people Daybell told about a vision he said he’d had of Tammy’s death.

So let me ask what I hope is an obvious thing to ask... is it possible MG was the original AZ woman? Just sayin'. Complicated people. JMO

 

[A2FMNST]

I guess if I were to ask myself if the world were to end next week what would you want to do?
1) vacation in Hawaii
2) run off with abandon not giving a care in the world to anyone or anything
3) steal everyone's money so I could have unlimited funds to spend right up to the end
4) orchestrate a bunch of minions to do dirty deeds for me . . . .

so much to contemplate

You know, these doomsday folks are already working on an excuse for why the world won’t end in July...

OMG, these nutter butters actually believed it!