Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #42

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  • #221
But I thought I read that while they were digging thru the black plastic bag, there was another plastic bag and when they ripped that open, they saw brown hair ( a head) but they didn't say it was decapitated, did they?
Oh, please tell me NO
My heart hurts already
I don’t think so. For one, there would have been charges like Tylee’s. 2, they just came to the head first and then saw the rest of the body.
 
  • #222
I'm so angry and horrified about the whole thing, but that alone makes me want the death penalty, and I'm not a super pro-death penalty person. MOO.

I am not a huge pro death penalty myself, but in this case I really hope there is a hell and they ALL have a one way ticket.
 
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Well that attachment mentions "a head" not "a body".
They uncovered the head first. If he was decapitated then they would have classified his remains as egregious as well. Sounds like his body was intact.
 
  • #225
I don’t think so. For one, there would have been charges like Tylee’s. 2, they just came to the head first and then saw the rest of the body.

Here's where I'm hung up. The last item specifies "a head". Jmo
 

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  • #226
But I thought I read that while they were digging thru the black plastic bag, there was another plastic bag and when they ripped that open, they saw brown hair ( a head) but they didn't say it was decapitated, did they?
Oh, please tell me NO
My heart hurts already
I think the first part of his body they encountered was the top of his head, but I think he was buried intact.
 
  • #227
Here's where I'm hung up. The last item specifies "a head". Jmo

Decapitating zombies? Possible. I read it as them just uncovering the head first when opening the plastic.
 
  • #228
Here's where I'm hung up. The last item specifies "a head". Jmo
I see what you’re saying and honestly didn’t notice the reference there. I, at first thought it was separate too.

Do you think the egregious would apply if the body was not intact? I kind of do, so that pushes me more to it being intact. But I do see your point.
 
  • #229
Home and safe. Dear God this thread is moving fast!! I’m new so I’m going to allow myself time to catch up. In all honesty between this thread and what I experienced tonight my heart hurts.
I hope that’s ok to say. I’ll be less in my heart and more in my head tomorrow.
There’s a case to solve here! In case no one told you today, you are loved. I hope that’s ok to say.
 
  • #230
I'm so angry and horrified about the whole thing, but that alone makes me want the death penalty, and I'm not a super pro-death penalty person. MOO.

I've always been on the fence regarding death penalty but if there is one case deserving of the death penalty, this one is it. JMO MOO
 
  • #231
No, there was the July incident. And also a text conversation in September. Two gun incidents.
Dang! I need to quit ! Sorry! I keep missing that! I’m editing so I don’t throw a whole thread off again...,
 
  • #232
Home and safe. Dear God this thread is moving fast!! I’m new so I’m going to allow myself time to catch up. In all honesty between this thread and what I experienced tonight my heart hurts.
I hope that’s ok to say. I’ll be less in my heart and more in my head tomorrow.
There’s a case to solve here! In case no one told you today, you are loved. I hope that’s ok to say.
Buckle up. You’ve got a bumpy ride ahead in your endeavor to catch up.
 
  • #233
Lori told the nanny that Tylee wants to be paid for babysitting JJ. Lori could have paid Tylee with the money she was probably collecting on behalf of Tylee! Instead she is labeled a zombie.

On the zombie theory when did this terminology come to be used. How did leveled dark spirits turn into zombies? Is this a Lori term or did it come from Chad? The earliest I have seen is spring of 2019. Has anyone seen mention of it before that?
 
  • #234
I think the first part of his body they encountered was the top of his head, but I think he was buried intact.
Thank you... that is how I read it also.
 
  • #235
Do you think that was enough for both the kids then?
I remember reading, I think it was the Janis Cox and Summer interview that Lori “stockpiled” his medecine. Whatever the h.// that means. I think you’d have to not give it to him to stockpile it.
 
  • #236
I see what you’re saying and honestly didn’t notice the reference there. I, at first thought it was separate too.

Do you think the egregious would apply if the body was not intact? I kind of do, so that pushes me more to it being intact. But I do see your point.

You would think beheading would be as horrifying as burning. But I dunno honestly. I'm trying not to be too graphic, but he really burned Tylee up. :(
 
  • #237
The first report showed a drug interaction. The latest, a few posts up, does not specify a second drug, just Risperidone. So from this, it looks possible from Risperidone alone.

I recall now that we were talking about this in context of AxC and pulmonary embolism before. Sure, this could have been used on JJ. I just don't know how they would have known how much to give him. And if they did know, that means they googled it and there will be evidence at the good ol' Google mothership. So we'll know more before long.

Still find it curious they would have left any evidence like this behind, just on general principle. But like I keep saying, criminals are dumb!
 
  • #238
Reading that Affidavit of Probable Cause, it seems like nearly everything leaked. I think Nate Eaton and Justin Lum were taken into confidence by LE and perhaps even strategically released info to apply pressure.
I have no doubt
I said before, Nate especially, but also Justin have a great rapport with LE
 
  • #239
Lori told the nanny that Tylee wants to be paid for babysitting JJ. Lori could have paid Tylee with the money she was probably collecting on behalf of Tylee! Instead she is labeled a zombie.

On the zombie theory when did this terminology come to be used. How did leveled dark spirits turn into zombies? Is this a Lori term or did it come from Chad? The earliest I have seen is spring of 2019. Has anyone seen mention of it before that?

To this group unclean spirits who come to inhabit other people's bodies as spirits that take over someone's body is clearly on a podcast from Cease&Desist and pure revelations has many many posts about on unclean and foul spirits and how they are given power to cast them out as sons of perdition. Identifying them as zombies may be specific to Chad, but not the underlying idea.

edit to add: I noted earlier that there appears to be a hidden (infiltrating) "operating thetan" in Cease&Desist. They do seem to identify these sort of possessions as zombies sometimes.
 
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Dang! I need to quit ! Sorry! I keep missing that! I’m editing so I don’t throw a whole thread off again...,

Eh. We've got tons of new info. It's hard to keep it straight. No worries. Jmo
 
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