Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #43

[longtimereader]

One more thing, I HATE hearing the cookie story. I think because it seems so disrespectful to Tammy and to her children. TD by all accounts was an amazing mom. Amazing mom's do hard things, sacrifice and fight for their kids. Amazing moms fix hurts and play with their kids. Tammy posted very sweet pictures with her grandchild. She was also an amazing grandma. Lori thinks she can be super mom by making cookies and have them fall in love with her in an afternoon. That also speaks poorly of the adult children. Give them a good cookie and they will just switch allegiance and their love to you? If I were them and heard this story, I would be enraged. Especially if they can prove TD's death was caused by LV. I usually try to stay to the facts and so on but hearing MG tell stories about LV got my feathers ruffled.

 

[Michael0808]

I think they looked at these two minor children as excess baggage. (breaks my heart to type that).

Me too. And turning them over to the people willing and aching to love and care for them would have made them look “bad”. Jmo

 

[Colorado303]

All of them

Good answer!

 

[longtimereader]

dBM

 

[longtimereader]

Yes. We know Chad lies. And put yourself in his position. He has a beautiful, loving wife in Idaho that runs his business for him, supports the family with a day job, and so forth. He also has a side piece 1000 miles away who worships him and does who knows what else for him. Then side piece's husband is killed, she shows up in Rexburg, makes demands on his time, and threatens the good situation he had. Maybe at first he said he couldn't see her because Tylee was always around. So Lori solved that problem and Chad did his part too. Then JJ was in school so they had days at her apartment to do their thing. But then Lori realizes how easy it was and moves on to her next problem. If he tells Lori that Tammy is suspicious then he can pull back from Lori to some extent. He has every reason to say that whether it is true or not. But that also tells her he has no intention of leaving Tammy. Enter Alex again...

No I don't think Chad is innocent. And I'm sure this is not exactly how it went down. But I think once Lori sunk her claws in Chad she was not going to let anything get in her way.

This seems pretty plausible. Also, she brought her posse with her. She moved to town with 2 kids, a brother and a niece. She had her bestie and her boyfriend come to town. She didn't exactly slink in. jmo

 

[Michael0808]

Yes. We know Chad lies. And put yourself in his position. He has a beautiful, loving wife in Idaho that runs his business for him, supports the family with a day job, and so forth. He also has a side piece 1000 miles away who worships him and does who knows what else for him. Then side piece's husband is killed, she shows up in Rexburg, makes demands on his time, and threatens the good situation he had. Maybe at first he said he couldn't see her because Tylee was always around. So Lori solved that problem and Chad did his part too. Then JJ was in school so they had days at her apartment to do their thing. But then Lori realizes how easy it was and moves on to her next problem. If he tells Lori that Tammy is suspicious then he can pull back from Lori to some extent. He has every reason to say that whether it is true or not. But that also tells her he has no intention of leaving Tammy. Enter Alex again...

No I don't think Chad is innocent. And I'm sure this is not exactly how it went down. But I think once Lori sunk her claws in Chad she was not going to let anything get in her way.

I don’t know how to snip yet but bolded by me. Imo they sunk their claws into each other. And nothing was going to get in either of their ways. A perfect evil match from hell. Moo
EBM deleted quote carried over

 

[LaborDayRN]

Me too. And turning them over to the people willing and aching to love and care for them would have made them look “bad”. Jmo

I think LVD didn't turn JJ over to his grandparents out of spite due to CD giving the insurance money his sister. What a hateful, hurtful thing to do.

 

[KonaHonu]

And one more separate thing, I HATE hearing the cookie story...

Where did the cookie story come from? I've seen it said it was after the funeral implying the same day. But Chad's kids also thought he met a widow in Hawaii after he went there in November. Or they could have thought he left for Hawaii when he moved out on 10/24.

I'm convinced he introduced Lori to his parents on the way home from Hawaii in mid November. I suspect the cookies party happened after that.

 

[longtimereader]

Where did the cookie story come from? I've seen it said it was after the funeral implying the same day. But Chad's kids also thought he met a widow in Hawaii after he went there in November. Or they could have thought he left for Hawaii when he moved out on 10/24.

I'm convinced he introduced Lori to his parents on the way home from Hawaii in mid November. I suspect the cookies party happened after that.

I think it is entirely made up.

Excerpt copied from Part 3: Melanie Gibb discusses mysterious deaths, an earthquake, confronting Chad and Lori and her message for them now | East Idaho News
Gibb has never met any members of Chad’s family, but Lori occasionally spoke about them. After Tammy’s funeral, Gibb says Lori invited Chad and his kids over to her townhouse for cookies, and afterward Lori told Gibb “they fell in love” with her.

 

[SuziQ]

Silly MG. Trying so hard to convince us she never fell for LV and CD's lies. IMO, she was all in.

 

[TexieLouWho21]

OMGoodness!!!!!!! I hate that freaking cookie story too. I just hate it. It makes my blood boil as a mom. Thats just so disgusting and disrespectful to Tammy. Ugh.....I just can't! I'm leaving it there! IMO

 

[gumchew]

Great observation and perspective imo. That said, does this make her culpable? I believe she is. Perhaps not legally, but certainly morally by any reasonable standard. Jmo

I agree with you @Michael0808. Regardless of any personality deficiency, she is an adult who knows right from wrong, just like the two murderers of whom she apparently remains enamored.

 

[Michael0808]

Night sleuthers! It’s pouring down rain here and I have a crazy 15 month old black lab who is extremely smart, and like having a toddler. She knows how to act like she needs to go out when it’s raining because she loves water! So I am headed out in the middle of the night to go play in puddles for awhile lol!
Thank you for your company and brain power tonight, I needed it! I hope JJ and Tylee are resting well. I so hope they are. Tomorrow is another day for sleuthing. I hope LE gets EVERYONE involved in the incomprehensible deaths of these children. So glad I found this site. Stay safe!

 

[Boxer]

Not going to delve into it too much... but STILL driving me crazy. The orange object at the dig site. And the AC’s orange gun bag and another orange/black luggage bag found in the house. It’s what’s convinced me AC was involved in the murders and burials. I’m so curious to see if it will come to be connected. What was it? Driving me nuts.

MOO TD pet, maybe a large dog was wrapped up in a orange space blanket. and animal was buried. Identified as animal bones, it was put aside.

 

[Diddian]

"We don't like to camp, so we're never going to be in the tents, Melanie."

...said every cult leader ever.

 

[TexieLouWho21]

Well thats the one thing LVD got right in this whole messy mess. Camping is not in her future. She will be rotting in a prison cell. So that was a good call. IMO

 

[BeachSky]

Silly MG. Trying so hard to convince us she never fell for LV and CD's lies. IMO, she was all in.

Word

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

I think LVD didn't turn JJ over to his grandparents out of spite due to CD giving the insurance money his sister. What a hateful, hurtful thing to do.

I hope prosecution asks her why she didn’t just give JJ to his grandparents. Jmo

 

[BeckyF]

Discouraging statements by Dr. Cyril Wecht on Court TV this evening. He says it will be very difficult to determine cause of death from the bones, especially from the charred ones. 6/22/20 Doomsday Cult Mom: Forensic Pathologist Analyzes 'Horrendous Case' - Court TV

Hopefully they gather a ton of other evidence to prove conspiracy.

 

[BeachSky]

MOO TD pet, maybe a large dog was wrapped up in a orange space blanket. and animal was buried. Identified as animal bones, it was put aside.

Probable cause said during the search ...buried dog and cat remains were found.

JMO