Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom arrested* #44

[gumchew]

In this ‘Preparing A People‘ conference video with Chad Daybell he’s wearing a yellow gold wedding band.

(Approx 40 second mark on video)

JMO

Hmmmm. This inconsistency suggests to me that it could be a "cheater tell".

 

[Ohmeohmy]

Continued:

https://twitter.com/AnnieCushing/status/1276619713506947082
Not to be outdone, Melanie Gibb tells an outrageous story of how a former CPD officer and fellow group member, Jason Mow, just happened to be alongside the road in Lori’s neighborhood that day (20:19). (6/10) #lorivallow
1:53 PM · Jun 26, 2020·Twitter Web App

Replying to
@AnnieCushing
Jason Mow is the same guy who’s been posting passive-aggressive posts like this one the day after Charles was murdered by Alex Cox and would no longer be needing his Jeep Wrangler: https://bit.ly/jm-wrangler

. (7/10) #lorivallow

MG also claims Charles Vallow lured her to his house using Lori’s phone but said she didn’t have these messages on her phone when asked by Tylee, the only rational thinker in the room that day (2:28). (8/10) #lorivallow



MG: “So when I got there I said, ""You've been using Lori's phone to connect with me."" He goes, ""Sorry, I've deceived you."" I said, ""Oh, okay. Yeah, you did."" Luckily there was some other people there that were–“ (2:51). Sure, Jan.

#lorivallow (9/10)


You can watch the interview here: http://bit.ly/lmt-gpd

. View the transcript dashboard here: http://bit.ly/jjt-video-dashboard…

. Select the video indicated in the attached screenshot. Check indicates a note. Hover over cell in far-right column to view the note & see other info. (10/10)

 

[Boxer]

Yes, and how close was she to "leaving her kids behind" to join in the 144,000. Oh forgot, she apparently did leave her kids behind......

MOO joining a cult is basically taking drugs that one manufactures in one's own body, but would she kill her kids if there was in her opinion no other way to get free of them and CD told her they were dark?

 

[gumchew]

Quite possibly this is the case and why there is a layer of white plastic
Per the Affidavit--
"A small incision was made in the black plastic and a layer of white plastic was observed.
An incision was made into the white layer of plastic exposing what appeared to be human remains, the crown of a head with light brown hair."

If this is truly the case, and IMO, it is, then perhaps JJ really did go climbing the cupboards, trying to get away from having a bag put over his head.
OMG-- the reality of it is just too much and overwhelming for me.
What these innocent children must have had to live with and go through with these monsters who were supposed to be parents, family and protectors of our little innocent people.
I hope they rot.

We still don't know anything about this second layer of white plastic. Just pointing it out. Easy for the mind to jump to "head sized plastic bag" and "suffocation", but I could probably run around my house right now and grab white plastic bags from hand-sized to head-sized to full-child-body-sized. (forgive the suggestive description)

 

[Sillybilly]

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[longtimereader]

There’s also pictures of the “spur of the moment” wedding that includes ZP, AC, MP, and IP in that tribute to AC montage, IIRC.
You can find the tribute on YouTube for those asking, but I can’t name source because TOS.
MOO

Has this video been moved to private?

 

[gumchew]

Pink foam was observed, according to Chad's daughter EM.

During the visit, Fowler and another friend told KSL that Murray also shared concerns about the state in which they found Tammy Daybell’s body. Murray reportedly shared that Tammy Daybell appeared to have pink foam coming out of her mouth.

Friends of Tammy Daybell express concern over her death | East Idaho News

Yeah but observed by whom and when? And how did EM know this? I'm sorry for so frequently pointing this out, and parsing it so carefully, but this is at best a second-hand account and we don't know that it's not a third-hand account. We don't know what exactly EM saw, or if she was herself told this by someone else. We just know this is something she allegedly told her mom's coworker. The mom's coworker is all we have at the moment.

It's so frustrating not having any official info.

 

[longtimereader]

What did she admit to?

It sounds as if he told her he was wearing a wire and she said ok record me. He told her in advance. He only looked as if he was helping police. So nothing was said in front of him.

 

[Spartygirl]

MG couldn't be blamed for killing the kids. IMO it doesn't make a difference to her own legal jeopardy who out of the trio Lori, Chad and Alex did it. MG wasn't there.

But, I believe MG and CW were there the weekend JJ was killed.

 

[longtimereader]

Ugh-- I am not finding it anywhere on youtube unless it is mixed in with some of the news regarding him and LVD and the kids.

I think was removed to private.

 

[Forever Young]

MOO joining a cult is basically taking drugs that one manufactures in one's own body, but would she kill her kids if there was in her opinion no other way to get free of them and CD told her they were dark?

IMO she was precariously close to having to make that decision.

 

[justbreathe]

Popping in to say wow - LE really let CV down. He told them, and then her brother killed him - and no one cared! Just like LVD said. Then, she kills her kids, his son, too!

This is a problem with LE - they don’t seem willing or able to do anything until someone is dead. And even then, they just closed that file. Self defense.

So, so sad especially for his family.

 

[BeckyF]

She asked, and he filed. He thought things were good but had noticed changes in her...

Thanks, not that I’m accusing her of anything but the whole timing thing is puzzling.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

That's weird my post attached to yours. On the day that Tylee was buried if you look at the pings on AC phone LE is questioning a gap in AC phone pings at the Maverick gas station but it was after Alex had arrived at Chads and then it shows Alex phone back in the yard at CD I think once Alex got Tylee to CD they realized they did not have enough fuel source to do there deed so CD sent his henchman AC to get some gas, I sure wish we had video to see if he was filling up a gas can?

a la Patrick Frazee getting gas. MG did say that LV and CD were like gasoline and fire...

 

[gumchew]

https://twitter.com/AnnieCushing/status/1276617836597829632
Let me tell you a little story. A story of how
@GilbertPolice
could have prevented the #LoriVallow tragedy but instead helped her evade a pick-up order for a much-needed psych eval on 1/30/19. The officer coached her 9 times.
@gilbertpd
#lorivallow #doomsdaymom (1/10)




@AnnieCushing
#LoriVallow didn’t hide her deception. She gave 3 explanations for how Charles got into her car between the 1:42 and 1:59 min marks. She also admitted to stealing Charles’ stuff and his car at the 4:54 mark (and laughs). She admits to taking money out of their account. (2/10)

And they don’t even bat an eye or ask her to explain. She had drained the business account of $35k in several passed between 1/28 and 1/29, leaving the account w/ < $100, if they had cared to ask or check her story against Charles’ report from the night before. (3/10) #lorivallow

Lori also says at 5:25 that she had to buy a throw away phone that day but then the rookie officer asked her about the smart phone she pulls out at 23:39, and she said it was her mom’s broken phone. He took her purse to try to get GPD to do the pick-up. (4/10) #lorivallow
1:51 PM · Jun 26, 2020·Twitter Web App

https://twitter.com/AnnieCushing/status/1276619603473465345
Charles said he’d return it at their therapist’s office (5:37) because officers the night before dismissed his concerns and said they would only serve the pick-up order if they “came across” Lori: https://youtu.be/yr6Jch8gB8w?t=354…

. He shakes their hands @ 9:17 mark.

(5/10) #lorivallow

Body cam footage of Charles Vallow in Gilbert
On Gilbert PD body cam footage, Charles Vallow is seen talking to officers, claiming that his then-wife, Lori Vallow, locked him out of the house. This was f...
youtube.com
1:53 PM · Jun 26, 2020·Twitter Web App

Just amazing. They were being so obvious that it was almost cartoonish. They might as well have been wearing "YOU SHOULD GO" t-shirts, holding "LEAVE NOW!!!! JUST GO" signs.

 

[gumchew]

BBM

MOO joining a cult is basically taking drugs that one manufactures in one's own body, but would she kill her kids if there was in her opinion no other way to get free of them and CD told her they were dark?

So is "falling in love", for that matter

 

[jjenny]

Yes, we do know about the foam. We don't know anything else about that night, what Tammy did, what Chad did, we don't know, hopefully they find something. MOO

We know Chad claimed that Tammy went to bed coughing.
"Chad told his then-father-in-law Ron Douglas that Tammy had gone to bed the night before with a terrible cough and never woke up."
Court documents: Chad Daybell got $430K in life insurance after wife's death

 

[jjenny]

We also know that Chad claimed she was dead for several hours when he woke up at 6 am. He claimed she looked serene with a slight smile (nothing about pink foam coming out of her mouth).
“My dear wife Tammy passed away in her sleep early Saturday, October 19. When I awoke at around 6 a.m., it was clear she had been gone for several hours,” he wrote. “It came as a shock. I couldn’t believe I hadn’t been awakened somehow, but all indications are that her spirit simply slipped away during the night. Her face looked serene, with her eyes closed and a slight smile. It was devastating to discover her that way, but I’m so grateful that her death was peaceful.”
Life insurance increase, quick burial and other 'weird' things Chad Daybell's friends noticed | East Idaho News

 

[jjenny]

The claims that Chad made about what happened when Tammy died to me seem inconsistent. She went to bed with a horrible cough, but died peacefully in her sleep during the night, with Chad never waking up, and finding her dead in the morning and with a serene look and a slight smile? Does that add up to anything?

 

[sunflowerchick]

We also know that Chad claimed she was dead for several hours when he woke up at 6 am. He claimed she looked serene with a slight smile (nothing about pink foam coming out of her mouth).
“My dear wife Tammy passed away in her sleep early Saturday, October 19. When I awoke at around 6 a.m., it was clear she had been gone for several hours,” he wrote. “It came as a shock. I couldn’t believe I hadn’t been awakened somehow, but all indications are that her spirit simply slipped away during the night. Her face looked serene, with her eyes closed and a slight smile. It was devastating to discover her that way, but I’m so grateful that her death was peaceful.”
Life insurance increase, quick burial and other 'weird' things Chad Daybell's friends noticed | East Idaho News

You know, I'm considering this further... If TD really did go to bed coughing, it just doesn't even make sense that CD wouldn't wake up. No way! Anyone buying this at all?