Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #12

[CSIDreamer]

What if this case was based on the irony of each of them thinking they were clearing the path toward marrying money...but they're both paupers.

She may have to start cutting hair again! Jmo

 

[Madison418]

Add to the puzzle that in addition to Lori/Chad nuptials, Melani and Alex both married people associated w/AVOW in November 2019. Oh yeah, and Alex is now dead.

Apologies, I must've missed this, what is AVOW?

 

[Gardener1850]

Apologies, I must've missed this, what is AVOW?

It's a forum/prepper group that Chad was allegedly involved in. AVOW hasn't been mentioned in any MSM that I have seen, which is why I didn't include it anywhere in the timeline. It might have come up in Gray Hughes videos on the case. I don't think we are allowed to link to the AVOW forum here but if you search "Another Voice of Warning" it should come up. MOO.

 

[Friday Fan]

I also thought this supposed statement had something to do with her spiritual beliefs, though I think they are delusional. This snip from the divorce papers Charles filed made me think that a Tylee may now be someone else:

“The next day Father was on a business trip in Houston and during another phone conversation she kept referring to Father as ‘Nick Schneider’ instead of Father’s name. Father asked who Nick Schneider was and Mother told him that Nick was Father’s real name because Nick had killed Father and taken his identity.”

Lori has a round-about distant connection to someone with that surname. She may have not even met the person, but it was a name she could have picked up from public records. It would be comparable to the Brady Bunch episode where Jan makes up a name for a boyfriend and says: George, then sees a glass and says, "George Glass".

 

[Deerrun]

Have we established for certain that CV left an inheritance? If so, do we know who the beneficiary is for certain?

 

[Madison418]

Um, so if a court order said she had to deliver the kids and she did not do so, and there are no consequences, then what was the point of that?? Like what is going on here? Why are these people still galavanting around HI?? Exasperated to say the least...

 

[CatsEye]

About an hour ago on Justin Lum’s “back in the lab” post, he said: Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix My report airs live during the 5PM hour. Stream us on fox10phoenix.com!

Thanks for that update. I will take a break from constantly refreshing the screen and go for a walk now!

 

[raysgirl1126]

I'm flabbergasted by the whole freaking case!!!!!! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!?!?!?

 

[josephinemarch]

Um, so if a court order said she had to deliver the kids and she did not do so, and there are no consequences, then what was the point of that?? Like what is going on here? Why are these people still galavanting around HI?? Exasperated to say the least...

Because she was a no show, they now have at least the option to look into extradition, which they may or may not still do. But immediately after the no-show, JJ’s grandma filed for custody. I see it as rungs on a ladder. Beyond frustrating, but small steps to help them build a big enough case that will not slip off.

ETA I am with you on the frustrating part. I don’t quite understand why she and Chad aren’t at least brought in for a very thorough interrogation to try to get some info. If anyone can explain that to a crime newbie, that’d be great.

 

[Bray2020]

What if this case was based on the irony of each of them thinking they were clearing the path toward marrying money...but they're both paupers.

Yeah, that makes sense. Most people have no idea what authors make, and since Chad had speaking engagements and podcasts under his belt, he could have seemed a little more successful than he actually is. If Tammy had a large life insurance policy, he probably had the insurance payment within a month of Tammy's death. If that's the case, Lori wouldn't know whether the money was from his career, or insurance. On the other hand, with CV being murdered before he and Lori were divorced, it's likely that she would get a great deal of his money and belongings, and possibly an insurance payout. This would set Lori and Chad up for a life of luxury. Without kids in their care, they would able to make the money last longer. IMO

 

[Ohmeohmy]

Febuary 5,2020

Justin Lum Phoenix Fox10

https://www.facebook.com/pg/jlumfox10/posts/

2 diffrent comments this morning from Justin on his FB . He is responding to someone saying a publicity stunt. Click on link for more comments

No and we knew about his policy. But there’s information on that I can’t release. The “competition” tried though.

I don’t do publicity stunts. I never said my report will air at 10 tonight. Be patient. What I have is new whether I show you now or later. Trust that.

 

[Portiz34]

Probably going to find out who is putting up all those posters.
@Portiz34

I dont think she will lol. But it is a small island.

 

[josephinemarch]

You’re so awesome for doing those posters. I didn’t get to thank you, yet. But thank you. @Portiz34

 

[Madison418]

Because she was a no show, they now have at least the option to look into extradition, which they may or may not still do. But immediately after the no-show, JJ’s grandma filed for custody. I see it as rungs on a ladder. Beyond frustrating, but small steps to help them build a big enough case that will not slip off.

ETA I am with you on the frustrating part. I don’t quite understand why she and Chad aren’t at least brought in for a very thorough interrogation to try to get some info. If anyone can explain that to a crime newbie, that’d be great.

Thanks. I guess I don't understand why the extradition hasn't occurred yet and hoping it's because LE is building a solid case

 

[nopynono]

Febuary 5,2020

Justin Lum Phoenix Fox10

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

2 diffrent comments this morning from Justin on his FB . He is responding to someone saying a publicity stunt. Click on link for more comments

No and we knew about his policy. But there’s information on that I can’t release. The “competition” tried though.

I don’t do publicity stunts. I never said my report will air at 10 tonight. Be patient. What I have is new whether I show you now or later. Trust that.

I wonder if the competition that tried is the other local AZ station that put out the article where Melani's name was misspelled.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

Mike Galanos True Crime
MikeGalanosHLN (@MikeGalanosHLN) | Twitter
It's been 135 days since #missingsiblings J.J. Vallow and Tylee Ryan were last seen, and their grandparents are overcome with worry -- sharing a video of J.J. singing with Grandpa in better times. #idaho

 

[Colorado303]

I think when you are deceased then that stuff usually becomes public info in probate records and such. Not sure about insurance policies though but I am sure that prosecutors could obtain this info when performing an investigation but MOO.
ETA the probable cause would be the suspicious death.

Yes, but Chandler PD still insists there is nothing suspicious about CV’s death. Absolutely nothing. Nothing at all.

I propose a new town sign

Welcome to Chandler
Home of America’s Worst Police Department

or maybe

Welcome to Chandler
Kill who you want here. We don’t care.

Sorry, not sorry. Instead of admitting CVs death warrants further investigation, Chandler PD arrogantly doubles down on justified self-defense. I’m horrified and mad as hell on behalf of CV’s family. And incredulous no one’s enforcing the enforcers. LE like this belong in backwoods horror flicks, not real life.

 

[CSIDreamer]

I wonder if the competition that tried is the other local AZ station that put out the article where Melani's name was misspelled.

That's my wild guess. Jmo

 

[indicolite22]

Febuary 5,2020

Justin Lum Phoenix Fox10

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

2 diffrent comments this morning from Justin on his FB . He is responding to someone saying a publicity stunt. Click on link for more comments

No and we knew about his policy. But there’s information on that I can’t release. The “competition” tried though.

I don’t do publicity stunts. I never said my report will air at 10 tonight. Be patient. What I have is new whether I show you now or later. Trust that.

So is it an interview that the competition couldn't obtain? With Lori's parents perhaps? He said earlier that there were three pieces of info, so I thought documents, audio tapes/transcripts or video surveillance. Others could get that as well, I suppose, unless it was up to the owner of information.

 

[Portiz34]

Yeah, we made sure to put them up good too but maybe since it was say, the post office, maybe they just put it somewhere else, it's not open yet, super rainy today - the others were still up!