Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #12

[PezCandy]

Hasn’t there been other cases where parents had sent their kids off somewhere within a cult? I thought I heard about something like that years back, it’s odd that they put everything that was related to their babies in a storage shed, they don’t have anything of their kids at their new place? Hmmm... I couldn’t imagine not even having at least pictures of my babies somewhere. This is such an odd, odd case. Seems like the people that were involved with this couple have ended up dead. I hope the kiddos are safe wherever they are (trying to be optimistic).

Jmo moo imo speculation

 

[Gardener1850]

Are we allowed to discuss if she has previous arrests? MOO but she has that ‘substance abuse’ look. BBs dad was understandably frightened in that phone call to the police. You can hear the panic in his voice. JMO

No, I don't think we can discuss anything about Melani except what has been in the MSM about this case. She's all over the MSM articles for this case but she's not a POI in the disappearance of JJ & Tylee, so we can't sleuth her beyond what the news has told us so far. That sure is a strange little smirk she has for someone who just got arrested. MOO.

 

[kye0001]

No, I don't think we can discuss anything about Melani except what has been in the MSM about this case. She's all over the MSM articles for this case but she's not a POI in the disappearance of JJ & Tylee, so we can't sleuth her beyond what the news has told us so far. That sure is a strange little smirk she has for someone who just got arrested. MOO.

She looks like LV too, could almost get away with being a double at a distance if ever a alibi was needed

 

[Busymom4]

I was thinking the same thing!! MB could pass for LV in the storage facility video recordings!!

 

[kye0001]

I was thinking the same thing!! MB could pass for LV in the storage facility video recordings!!

Absolutely, that would put any October dates of LV last been seen at the locker in question for me. Even passing her in a car...that brief glance you would get they look incredibly alike. MB just looks a bit rougher IMO...but then so would LV after a few hours in the cells. JMO

 

[tealrose]

Any suggestions for what else should be mapped?

Any idea where Alex's house is/was? I'm assuming that these places are the same:
- the "garage door left open" place, and
- the "Alex and Lori had a fight in a street" place, and
- where he was living when CV was killed

I'm also thinking that where Alex was living when he died is someplace else, perhaps at his new wife's home?

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

I think you're right. What has always bothered me about the shooting (besides Lori's provocation, the suspected lies by her and AC, the possible manipulation of - and maybe by - Tylee, and the pool party) is that to me, handguns are only to be used for protection - for self defense (basically, if your life is in danger).

Anyone who caries a concealed weapon who thinks that by doing so they somehow have the right, or the authority, or even the obligation, to right all wrongs or (especially) to enforce the law is headed for big, big trouble. I'm not saying to always run away, but use your common sense. You're not a cop. This ain't the Wild West. Is someone's life in jeopardy? Is yours? Who else could get hurt?

In AC's case, I never got the impression that CV was beating Tylee or Lori over the head with a baseball bat, and that AC had to shoot CV in order to save Lori or Tylee's life. And I definitely never got the impression that AC's life was in danger. Tylee and Lori left. So that leaves AC and CV. I don't buy that CV somehow kept coming at a man pointing a gun at him. And besides, Lori had the phone, not AC. I just think it's obvious that AC didn't have to fire his weapon, which means it was a choice. Jmo

I agree with you because I know plenty of LE and other responsible citizens that carry firearms. Based on some of this new information, I think what happened that morning was planned and, regardless of police statements, I think one or both of these kids witnessed what really happened.

 

[Gardener1850]

Any idea where Alex's house is/was? I'm assuming that these places are the same:
- the "garage door left open" place, and
- the "Alex and Lori had a fight in a street" place, and
- where he was living when CV was killed

I'm also thinking that where Alex was living when he died is someplace else, perhaps at his new wife's home?

His home where he had a fight with Lori and the garage was left open was in San Tan Valley, AZ.
He died at his new wife's home (or stepson's home? it could be both...) in Gilbert, AZ.
I don't think we have been told addresses or cross streets in any MSM, only the cities, and while we might find the addresses in public records I'm hesitant to post anything more specific than that due to TOS. Alex is deceased but there may still be other family members living at both those places.

MOO.

 

[BreeCherie]

Have we heard about the Kia Telluride already?

 

[Jethro4WS]

Have we heard about the Kia Telluride already?

We heard about the Telluride when Justin Lum quoted from the American Fork PD Police Report on the incident at Brandon's parent's house. Can't remember how long ago he reported that but it seems like it was a couple of weeks ago.

 

[Mitch1]

Justin Lum also reported in the comments section on the Fox News 10 Facebook page that Melani pleaded not guilty at her hearing today

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

 

[AmandaSkis]

Kay said Lori didn't know that Charles changed the beneficiary.

Yes, I read that. So Lori finds out that Kay is the beneficiary after the fact. Think Lori might be mad? Making JJ disappear would be a good way to hurt Kay.

 

[Knox]

Justin Lum also reported in the comments section on the Fox News 10 Facebook page that Melani pleaded not guilty at her hearing today

Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

Justin Lum is a true Investigative Journalist!!! Other reporters would be wise to pay attention to his efforts. Hope he gets some sort of award/recognition for his coverage in this case!!!

 

[Mitch1]

Justin Lum is a true Investigative Journalist!!! Other reporters would be wise to pay attention to his efforts. Hope he gets some sort of award/recognition for his coverage in this case!!!

Agreed, Nate has been amazing as well!

 

[lurker042]

Correction to your list is needed. There was a misprint in the obituary and program. I imagine this is why many people were arriving late. The correct address is:
1508 Ball Rd, Rexburg, ID 83440
The address listed is the Hibbard chapel, not the Stake Center.
On that note: it had been asked how many were in attendance for her memorial service. I'd say between 85 to 125. The chapel is fairly large and was not full by any means, especially as there was overflow open.

Ball Road is not a correct address for the stake center.
The correct address is 1508 w 3000 n on the county grid

 

[Knox]

What do you all make of the storage unit activity?

 

[PezCandy]

What do you all make of the storage unit activity?

I personally think it’s odd. I wonder what else LE found in there.

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

I personally think it’s odd. I wonder what else LE found in there.

I am sure they found things they are not showing to us! It really made me sad and scared when I heard that news. A loss of hope.

 

[Mitch1]

What do you all make of the storage unit activity?

I feel like the storage unit was purchased to store the things they Wanted to use to commit crimes/murder (guns, tire, backseat of suv)I feel like the toys and personal stuff was an after thought use of it! Would still like to know where The tire is and where her Rogue is?

 

[BigAl16]

Ball Road is not a correct address for the stake center.
The correct address is 1508 w 3000 n on the county grid

FWIW, Google Maps thinks either one of those are good and are the same place.