Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #13

[carbuff]

Yea, maybe it's a stock vehicle.

Which could be why the plate is so bright--the news people might have copied the correct plate into the photo.

 

[Gardener1850]

Yes, I thought it was one of the PI's photos--the vehicle looks to me like it's in a garage. But it might not be. If it's a CCTV picture, it's awfully good.

I agree, the clarity of the picture seems more consistent with it being a photo taken by the PI. Very interesting thinking, carbuff! Could that mean Tylee's Jeep stayed in AZ until Melani moved to Rexburg? Or do we think the PI found and photographed the Jeep after trailing Melani and Alex to Idaho?

 

[indicolite22]

You would only get “rights” to a story by selling them. So I’d ask the Woodcocks if they signed a deal with a movie, book, or news producer.

According to Gray, the caller did mention that the Woodcocks signed a contract with them.

 

[investigatefred]

Definitely looks like a charcoal grey colored Jeep Wrangler....and it appears to be taken in a driveway parked next to the same vehicle that is pictured at the home that MB was moving out of.

I have been wondering WHERE this particular Jeep Wrangler is, since the story came out about a "green Jeep Cherokee" used in the shooting at BB.

These two jeep models have very distinctly different looks and IMO, no way one can be mistaken for the other model. Wondering who has or what happened to this Wrangler??

I need some timeline and sleuthing help. Have we discussed the video below yet?

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At about 1:28 in the video the reporter says that the PI saw Alex helping Melani load up a U-haul in Gilbert, AZ at the "end of October" but the video goes on to say "2 days later" Brandon was shot at. Well that doesn't make any sense, since Brandon was shot at on Oct 2. Do we think the end of Oct date is correct and "two days later" part is an error? Or did they mean End of September and misspoke when they said Oct?

Also, here are some photos from the PI in that story that I had not seen posted here:
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The video goes on to show a picture of a Jeep with a Texas license plate as the reporter talks about the drive-by attempt on BB.
I'm trying to figure out if this picture is of the actual Jeep or if it's a stock photo:

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I'm confused on the Jeep:
1. It doesn't look green.
2. It doesn't look like a Cherokee to me.
3. It shows a clear license plate number which almost seems too clear for a CCTV image.

Anyone know if there is there a way to check this plate number to see if it's registered to Charles Vallow? TIA.

MOO.

 

[jjenny]

Yea, the license plate belongs to 2018 Jeep Wrangler Sport, grey in color.

 

[Gardener1850]

Don’t you think all it would take is one single interview with the Woodcocks? I mean they knew about the video being sent in January.

Good point. Brandon knew about Chad too. He believes Melani followed Lori into Chad's cult. Also, friends of Lori knew she was obsessed with Chad's books and before this case got big in the news a simple google search brought up the podcasts Lori did with Chad as well. They didn't try very hard to hide their connection. MOO.

MOO.

 

[indicolite22]

Don’t you think all it would take is one single interview with the Woodcocks? I mean they knew about the video being sent in January.

The Gilbert investigation was about the murder attempt on Brandon. I'm not sure if JJ's grandparents were a part of that. They would not have known the current status of Lori's relationship with Chad.

 

[Dontknow?]

Oh yes... Absolutely! Finding the children is the primary goal! I just respected the work GH did with regard to the case and especially his interviews with the family. I just wished they worked "with" him... That was my only point.

I think that anyone's help would be welcome. No ditching the smaller force. I read everywhere. You can learn a thing or more.

 

[indicolite22]

Good point. Brandon knew about Chad too. He believes Melani followed Lori into Chad's cult. Also, friends of Lori knew she was obsessed with Chad's books and before this case got big in the news a simple google search brought up the podcasts Lori did with Chad as well. They didn't try very hard to hide their connection. MOO.

MOO.

I'm not sure if the suspicion would fall on Chad simply because of Lori's obsession with his books and their joint podcasts. Brandon openly accused Melani of trying to get him killed. He blamed her association with Lori for the breakup of their marriage. Did he also blame Chad?

 

[Portiz34]

I wish there was a sub group where we could all connect more... I have more to say other than this case but I dont have social media, we should have a websleuths group where we can just friend each other... thankful for this site.

 

[PorcelainCoveredInTinFoil]

Check local listings for next week's Dateline (2-14-20). Could've sworn I saw images from this case in the preview.

 

[Dontknow?]

I wish there was a sub group where we could all connect more... I have more to say other than this case but I dont have social media, we should have a websleuths group where we can just friend each other... thankful for this site.

Websleuths has a private conversation area where members can start group conversations. Someone starts one and notifies others of their group conversation, I believe. It's private per websleuths. fyi

 

[Alpha Bravo]

I'm pretty sure the earthquake Chad believes in is the same one his Author friend predicted back in about 2015,6(don't remember which, but it would be on LDSfreedomforum threads), it just never happened. I don't know if 'lots and lots of people' sold homes in preparation. I remember that she had people who believed her who I read were taking the pictures off the walls of their homes and moving heavy furniture for fear that the earthquake was going to hit about 4:00 am in the spring (she said the grass was green and there was snow), but truthfully, her influence wasn't that big. I live in Salt Lake and I only knew a couple of people I could talk about her nuttiness with, most people had no clue who she was, and she was even on the radio for interviews several times. MOO

I had heard 10,000 people sold their homes, can’t remember source and regardless don’t think it was near that. That said, I heard the other author sold hers, and Chad sold his and bought the humble backwoods place in ID. And of course MB bailed, dunno if they owned RE or not.

 

[Jethro4WS]

I need some timeline and sleuthing help. Have we discussed the video below yet?

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At about 1:28 in the video the reporter says that the PI saw Alex helping Melani load up a U-haul in Gilbert, AZ at the "end of October" but the video goes on to say "2 days later" Brandon was shot at. Well that doesn't make any sense, since Brandon was shot at on Oct 2. Do we think the end of Oct date is correct and "two days later" part is an error? Or did they mean End of September and misspoke when they said Oct?

Also, here are some photos from the PI in that story that I had not seen posted here:
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The video goes on to show a picture of a Jeep with a Texas license plate as the reporter talks about the drive-by attempt on BB.
I'm trying to figure out if this picture is of the actual Jeep or if it's a stock photo:

View attachment 230816

I'm confused on the Jeep:
1. It doesn't look green.
2. It doesn't look like a Cherokee to me.
3. It shows a clear license plate number which almost seems too clear for a CCTV image.

Anyone know if there is there a way to check this plate number to see if it's registered to Charles Vallow? TIA.

MOO.

Records from running the license plate show that the vehicle was last sold on April 14, 2019 out of Spring, TX (Part of Houston/Harris County) by AutoNation Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Spring. The VIN of that vehicle is 1C4GJXAN6JW326205.

 

[Gardener1850]

I'm not sure if the suspicion would fall on Chad simply because of Lori's obsession with his books and their joint podcasts. Brandon openly accused Melani of trying to get him killed. He blamed her association with Lori for the breakup of their marriage. Did he also blame Chad?

I think Brandon believes Melani left him (and tried to have him killed) because she joined a religious cult lead by Chad. That's what BB said in his interviews. So, yes, BB could have told the police about Chad from the beginning. He didn't need to know the extent of Lori and Chad's relationship to mention Chad to the police. MOO.

 

[Avocado49]

Omg she probably loves that are talking about her hair

Lori’s hair in Kauai looked the same as it always has - she clearly spends time on it everyday - she is also formerly a hairdresser (I think that’s how she met Charles?) and reportedly gave the kids and her husband du jour regular haircuts.

 

[Gardener1850]

Records from running the license plate show that the vehicle was last sold on April 14, 2019 out of Spring, TX (Part of Houston/Harris County) by AutoNation Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram Spring. The VIN of that vehicle is 1C4GJXAN6JW326205.

Very interesting timing. By that time CV was back in Texas with JJ and around that time Lori and Tylee went back there too. Assuming that is when Charles Vallow bought the Jeep, I wonder if it was part of Lori's "demands" made before she would pretend to try to reconcile with CV? Or perhaps a gift from CV to Tylee to try to make the relationship better?

MOO.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Very interesting timing. By that time CV was back in Texas with JJ and around that time Lori and Tylee went back there too. Assuming that is when Charles Vallow bought the Jeep, I wonder if it was part of Lori's "demands" made before she would pretend to try to reconcile with CV? Or perhaps a gift from CV to Tylee to try to make the relationship better?

MOO.

Everything with this whole saga is perplexing. Lori had already by that time taken $35,000 and caused Charles' business to be shut down. But then turn around and get a Jeep? I find it mind-boggling the amount of money being thrown around (by several people) as if it was yesterday's newspaper.

 

[Gardener1850]

Everything with this whole saga is perplexing. Lori had already by that time taken $35,000 and caused Charles' business to be shut down. But then turn around and get a Jeep? I find it mind-boggling the amount of money being thrown around (by several people) as if it was yesterday's newspaper.

Agreed. It's really hard to understand what made CV pivot from filing orders of protection, filing for divorce, and trying to have Lori committed to suddenly buying a Jeep for Tylee and renting Lori a nice house in Chandler. It almost makes me wonder if Lori had something on CV? Was she blackmialing him or was he blinded by love for her and wanted to make it work?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Definitely looks like a charcoal grey colored Jeep Wrangler....and it appears to be taken in a driveway parked next to the same vehicle that is pictured at the home that MB was moving out of.

I have been wondering WHERE this particular Jeep Wrangler is, since the story came out about a "green Jeep Cherokee" used in the shooting at BB.

These two jeep models have very distinctly different looks and IMO, no way one can be mistaken for the other model. Wondering who has or what happened to this Wrangler??

I just wonder if it was impounded by LE?