Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #14

[BigAl16]

Keith Morrison previews Dateline special on Daybell case that is 'nothing like anything else' he's ever seen | East Idaho News

A skype interview Nate does with Keith Morrison. Sound quality is a bit like WS is behaving right now, but interesting regardless.

 

[BigAl16]

Does Dateline upload episodes to youtube or something relatively soon after airing? I don't have cable.

This link should have it at some point: https://www.nbc.com/dateline

It has a link to last Friday's show up now, but I'm not sure how long it took to be available.

 

[BreeCherie]

I wonder if LE or any other agency recovered any doorbell cam/ security footage from neighbors on the days leading up to when they went missing or after? And the same for the day CV was killed. I am not sure if this has been discussed before.

I figure there must be this kind of footage that isn't released to the public yet. I mean so many people have ring doorbells, security cams, dashboard cams, etc.

 

[smucklecrumble]

Who are JJ and Tylee?
Video: Who are JJ and Tylee?

Who is Lori Vallow?
Video: Who is Lori Vallow?

I would be interested to see haptic analysis of ARs segment and she shakes her head no while saying yes Lori was kind.

 

[Midwestmom2019]

Keith Morrison previews Dateline special on Daybell case that is 'nothing like anything else' he's ever seen | East Idaho News

A skype interview Nate does with Keith Morrison. Sound quality is a bit like WS is behaving right now, but interesting regardless.

East Idaho News has a few more articles. Blipped off about brother begging Chad to cooperate. Ex-wife of dead husband speaks out. Too many names, I can’t keep straight. But I want to say Charles Vallow. Not Ryan, he had the heart attack. I wonder if that was triggered by unnatural causes, too.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

I suspect most of his Idaho ward members were not aware of his most extreme views. He was very protective of those being in the public eye. And his wife Tammy, and kids unwittingly provided him with a good cover. IMHO

I have been wondering about this since the first thread. So he was doing these podcasts and seminars through out the "Mormon Corridor" {Idaho Utah AZ) on his religious beliefs and then kept it quiet among the people he actually went to church with because if was so out of line with LDS teachings ..Such a huge departure of what has portrayed to everyone on Sundays. After following this story i keep giving a few in my own LDS Ward side eye wondering what they are up to now.MOO

 

[Ohmeohmy]

Febuary 13,2020


"They were bringing stuff out of the house and loading it into the U-Haul," Robertson said. "But I saw Alex Cox bringing out some twin mattresses and bags of what looked like they might have been kids' blankets and toys. He didn't put those in the U-Haul, instead he put those on the curb and just left them in a pile on the curb while they loaded the U-Haul."

"It was all kids' stuff, it was clothing, it was blankets, it was toys, mattresses, bedding materials. It was all in a pile out there on the curb with a little cardboard sign on it that said, 'Free,'" Robertson added


Private Investigator Shares New Details On Missing Idaho Kids' Cousin, Family

@Gardener1850 Is this new info?

Edit Added second paragraph

 

[Gardener1850]

Febuary 13,2020


"They were bringing stuff out of the house and loading it into the U-Haul," Robertson said. "But I saw Alex Cox bringing out some twin mattresses and bags of what looked like they might have been kids' blankets and toys. He didn't put those in the U-Haul, instead he put those on the curb and just left them in a pile on the curb while they loaded the U-Haul."

"It was all kids' stuff, it was clothing, it was blankets, it was toys, mattresses, bedding materials. It was all in a pile out there on the curb with a little cardboard sign on it that said, 'Free,'" Robertson added


Private Investigator Shares New Details On Missing Idaho Kids' Cousin, Family

@Gardener1850 Is this new info?

It might not have been posted in the thread yet but I posted a different link with that info in the media thread. Inside Edition gave more new details from the PI that BB hired: Private Investigator Shares New Details On Missing Idaho Kids' Cousin, Family

The IE link has the exact dates Melani and Alex drove to Idaho and some info about Melani and Alex going around to friends houses looking for her kids after leaving all the kids stuff on the curb.

ETA: I have added all the dates above to my notes for the next timeline.

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Febuary 13,2020


"They were bringing stuff out of the house and loading it into the U-Haul," Robertson said. "But I saw Alex Cox bringing out some twin mattresses and bags of what looked like they might have been kids' blankets and toys. He didn't put those in the U-Haul, instead he put those on the curb and just left them in a pile on the curb while they loaded the U-Haul."

"It was all kids' stuff, it was clothing, it was blankets, it was toys, mattresses, bedding materials. It was all in a pile out there on the curb with a little cardboard sign on it that said, 'Free,'" Robertson added


Private Investigator Shares New Details On Missing Idaho Kids' Cousin, Family

@Gardener1850 Is this new info?

Edit Added second paragraph

Not a good sign!

 

[BigAl16]

DBM

 

[Ohmeohmy]

It might not have been posted in the thread yet but I posted a different link with that info in the media thread. Inside Edition gave more new details from the PI that BB hired: Private Investigator Shares New Details On Missing Idaho Kids' Cousin, Family
(it has the exact dates Melani and Alex drove to Idaho and some info about Melani and Alex going around to friends houses looking for her kids after leaving all the kids stuff on the curb).

I think the part about the stuff left on the curb with a sign was startling. Sorry about that, I have been in a rabbit hole in Utah Public Records along with Idaho and AZ. MOO

 

[Gardener1850]

I think the part about the stuff left on the curb with a sign was startling. Sorry about that, I have been in a rabbit hole in Utah Public Records along with Idaho and AZ. MOO

Yeah, that really gave me a chill. Read the Inside Edition piece when you get a chance as it has more. Why was Melani trying to get her kids the day after leaving all of her kids' belongings on the curb? I can't think of any good reason. And no JJ and Tylee at the house in Rexburg.

 

[WhereIsWaldo]

She was participating and training for a 5k run that was coming up. So I don't believe it is likely.

But, it is something that should be considered. Is it that unreasonable that TD committed suicide, if she embraced the idea that CD was a prophet and she was sealed to another, like John the Baptist?

 

[jjenny]

So Alex and Melani dumped the kids stuff on the curb. Yet Melani was charged with trespassing two weeks later, when she wen to BB's parents home claiming she had a court order to get the kids. So the question is, if she wanted/expected to get the kids back, why did she dumped the kids stuff? Melani seems to be trying to do everything her aunt Lori does.

 

[jjenny]

But, it is something that should be considered. Is it that unreasonable that TD committed suicide, if she embraced the idea that CD was a prophet and she was sealed to another, like John the Baptist?

Yes, it's unreasonable. There is no indication of suicide whatsoever. And where exactly did you get an idea that Tammy believed she was sealed to another?

 

[squareandrabbet]

Yeah, that really gave me a chill. Read the Inside Edition piece when you get a chance as it has more. Why was Melani trying to get her kids the day after leaving all of the kids' belongings on the curb? I can't think of any good reason. And no JJ and Tylee at the house in Rexburg.

Kids without supplies?

IMO, either they'd have been holed up with JJ and Tylee in this putative bunker with everything provided for them; OR Melani was stopping by to try and give her kids the "treatment" Lori is speculated about having given JJ and Tylee.

Also, I didn't see text from this posted, just the video link:

Keith Morrison previews Dateline special on Daybell case that is 'nothing like anything else' he's ever seen | East Idaho News

“It’s nothing like anything else. I’ve been doing this for a long time and this stands alone,” Morrison said Thursday afternoon during a FaceTime interview from an edit bay at NBC News Headquarters in New York City. “To make sure we get everything just right, we’ve had screenings for senior producers and lawyers…and anybody who has seen this for the first time is gobsmacked.”

Now you know how we feel, staffers!

“It’s so disturbing,” Morrison says. “When I read Chad Daybell’s book and he described what he called near-death experiences, it’s the kind of thing one hears when these things go bad. I’ve heard a lot and when you begin to hear those kinds of stories, potentially you’ve got some trouble.”

 

[Jethro4WS]

Not a good sign!

That was Melani's kids' stuff rather than JJ's and Tylee's just so people don't misinterpret it.

 

[jjenny]

That was Melani's kids' stuff rather than JJ's and Tylee's just so people don't misinterpret it.

Well, I thought that was very clear. Yet Melani still intended to get her kids back, given the fact that she showed up at Utah more than once, and got arrested for trespassing the second time. Why did she dump her kids stuff when she wanted them back? And what was she going to do with the kids if she got them back?

 

[ReadyorNot]

Not a good sign!

Well, the tossing of childrens items was at the end of October and we know Lori V moved in Sept. so the items had to be those of Melani's kids. We do know her kids are ok.

 

[Jethro4WS]

Well, I thought that was very clear. Yet Melani still intended to get her kids back, given the fact that she showed up at Utah more than once, and got arrested for trespassing the second time. Why did she dump her kids stuff when she wanted them back?

And she is in court once again in Arizona fighting for access to her kids.