Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #14

[Tmw821]

There was a picture in the news about a month ago of LV and was with a man that was named as AC. He looked firmiliar right away. I realized it was not the same AC as the article said said but it was her brother with the same initials. I had met him a while back through friends. He always came off as a kind and funny guy. He hasn't been mentioned much and I don't and have it in me message him since we are friends on social media. I highly doubt he is involved but I still keep an eye out when I go shopping, just incase.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

For all the Mormons here, do they have security cameras in the chapel now?

No..If they did they would see all of us on our cell phones when things get boring. MOO

 

[Portiz34]

First, I hope you have made LE aware that you believe you saw Lori talking to Chad in the Chapel at Tammy's memorial. That's a huge piece of info! They can possibly pull security camera footage and check her phone pings to prove she was there.

Next, I totally agree with you about Tammy guiding this investigation.

Finally, are you saying there could be 3 Jeeps? Can you confirm, were you shown a Cherokee? I know the PI said "green Cherokee", but if it was a Cherokee used in the BB shooting, then why did the news show a photo of a Wrangler?
Also, not sure if you saw but @Jethro4WS found the VIN and the sale date and location for the plate shown in the photo: ID - ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #13
That date matches up with when Tylee would have been in Texas with Lori while Lori and Charles were trying to work things out. We were told the Jeep used was "Tylee's Jeep" but I suppose if there are 3 Jeeps someone may be mistaken about which one she usually drove.

And I ultimately agree that if the Jeep used in the BB shooting attempt was a Cherokee then all our theories go out the window (no pun intended ). I can't think of any reason for storing a spare tire that looks similar to the spare on the back of the Wrangler for 1 day in Rexburg around the time that the Cherokee was down in AZ being used in the shooting...

MOO.

What if they were just hiding things where the spare tire went? moo

 

[holsen]

Yeah, he has a bank account somewhere, I'm sure. Lori probably does as well. I'm not convinced all of their money gets drug around in big baggies. MOO

Yes, and to send money via Venmo you'd have to have a bank account.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

... I would like the families to know what’s happened to the kids. Ultimately J.J being reunited with KW and LW and TR with whoever she wants as guardian. MOO

BBM
Just thinking out loud...if KW and LW did not step up and offer that reward the MSM and LE would have put this on the back burner. I'm not saying it would drop out of the news altogether or that LE would stop investigating, but what they did ratcheded up the pressure and will bring closure much faster than if they sat on the sidelines. I'm thankful for KW and LW.

 

[OGDiva]

Even if there are no cameras in the chapel, there could very well be cameras in the parking lot as well as surrounding businesses.

I wonder if they had undercover LE at the church services?

 

[BigAl16]

Even if there are no cameras in the chapel, there could very well be cameras in the parking lot as well as surrounding businesses.

There are no surrounding businesses where there service took place, just fields. Cameras in the parking lot, maybe.

 

[josephinemarch]

Thank you for sharing that about Lori. I have to say, that begs the question, why did she feel comfortable being there?

Did Chad find a way to introduce her to Tammy before death? Did Chad play up Lori’s victim mentality and illicit the help of his wife for “poor innocent Lori”?

I have to wonder if Lori had access to Tammy. Did Lori poison her? MOO

I mean, why not? N o t h i n g surprises me at this point. If Lori had come into their lives and buddied up with Tammy right before, I would not be one bit surprised. Ran into her at the library, performed her ridiculous laugh, and brought her a soda from somewhere right before Tammy got off work. .. It’s almost as if LV’s entire motive was to become an infamous subject of a lifetime movie. There are so many better ways to be remembered, you narcissistic psychopath.. MOO
also, not saying CD is innocent in this theory, I totally think he’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Moo

 

[Ohmeohmy]

DBM issues posting

 

[Gardener1850]

Yes, LE knows now. Unfortunately, I'm not sure of security footage, but they would have her phone info to confirm.

Yes, three Jeeps.
Of the three, I was shown only a photo of the silver 2012 Wrangler Limited 4-door.
PI photo has the grey 2018 Wrangler 2-door with Texas license plate. TX/LWD0997 VIN: 1C4GJXAN6JW326205 Sting-Gray Clearcoat is the color listed for this vehicle.
PI also said the shooter drove a Jeep Cherokee with Texas license plate. When I asked about the green Jeep I was told it was gray-green.
New details come to light about family members of missing Rexburg kids
“The vehicle that was involved in the shooting belonged to Charles Vallow," Robertson said. "It was a green Jeep Cherokee with Texas license plates. He recognized that as his former in-law and he suspected Charles Vallows' killer, Alex Cox, was the one driving that jeep.”

Did he misspeak? was it the grey Jeep Wrangler rather than a green jeep cherokee? Why would LE tell me it's gray-green?
Did he mean Gray? and read Grey? and therefore mistake it for GREEN?! Stupid english and two ways to spell grey/gray!

Wow. Thanks for answering. I don't know what that means if there are 3 Jeeps. Could they have been unsure on the model and color at the time they were asking you? Or, this is a bit wild, but maybe BB is red-green color blind (grey and green look the same) and he was unsure? I had a great chuckle at your gray/grey spelling quandary. I never know which spelling to use either, LOL. Seriously, I don't know what to make of the PI saying it was a green Cherokee. Maybe we should take that at face value. Maybe it was a green Cherokee. Just when I think I have my bearings in this case the rug gets ripped out from under me again and I have no idea which way is up. And if I feel that way you must feel that 10 times worse as someone who knows the people involved. I really appreciate you hanging with us and answering our questions.

 

[BigAl16]

In way over my head but both Texas and Arizona are community property states. CV and LV were married at the time of his death. I am guessing LV gets control of the checking account, savings account, investments, retirement account, ownership of the home, vehicles, etc? Things she could liquidate and move the money to her own account(s) very quickly, before probate. Could be a hefty incentive outside of the oft mentioned life insurance. MOO

I suspect this is how a non-trivial amount of any assests Lori brought to the new partnership was obtained.

 

[CuriousQuiet1]

Thanks for finding this info.

Rexberg’s LE budget is $29.60 per resident and Chandler’s is $30.00- virtually identical.

Rexberg LE has one employee (police officers and citizens combined) for every 708 residents. Chandler has one police officer for every 760 residents. When you add in LE citizen employees to compare apples to apples, Chandler has one LE employee for every 500 residents. Chandler may have more crime, but Rexberg manages to cover 52% more residents per LE employee than Chandler does.

IMO resource/funding differences don’t explain the discrepancy in performance. Chandler’s got other problems.

MOO

I have myself been critical of Chandler LE in this forum but I am hopeful they are the star at the end of the day. The warrant they issued for the school records in December says conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder so that says to me they are trying to put LV away for murder. MOO

Private school officials say Lori Vallow withdrew her son after lying about Charles Vallow's death

 

[BigAl16]

I wonder if they had undercover LE at the church services?

For what reason? Undercover isn't likely as the FCSO probably doesn't have anyone they'd have sent who could be there undercover. This is a very rural area and wouldn't have a ton of officiers. Now the possibility that a sheriff deputy was a friend or acquaintance and came to the service, not neccesarily as a job assignment, is possible.

 

[KonaHonu]

My concerns are that I don’t think they’ve got as much money as we think they do and as that starts to run out panic will set in.

Well they only need to get by until July! Money will be useless after that so best to be prudent and spend it now.

 

[RexburgSleuth]

Thank you for sharing that about Lori. I have to say, that begs the question, why did she feel comfortable being there?

Did Chad find a way to introduce her to Tammy before death? Did Chad play up Lori’s victim mentality and illicit the help of his wife for “poor innocent Lori”?

I have to wonder if Lori had access to Tammy. Did Lori poison her? MOO

That's the big question I have.

I wonder if they had undercover LE at the church services?

Could have been. Plenty of ward members in various LE agencies could have attended as well and it wouldn't be remarkable.

There are no surrounding businesses where there service took place, just fields. Cameras in the parking lot, maybe.

This is a possibility.

Wow. Thanks for answering. I don't know what that means if there are 3 Jeeps. Could they have been unsure on the model and color at the time they were asking you? Or, this is a bit wild, but maybe BB is red-green color blind (grey and green look the same) and he was unsure? I had a great chuckle at your gray/grey spelling quandary. I never know which spelling to use either, LOL. Seriously, I don't know what to make of the PI saying it was a green Cherokee. Maybe we should take that at face value. Maybe it was a green Cherokee. Just when I think I have my bearings in this case the rug gets ripped out from under me again and I have no idea which way is up. And if I feel that way you must feel that 10 times worse as someone who knows the people involved. I really appreciate you hanging with us and answering our questions.

I'm fairly certain they had an idea of the car as I was shown photos of the Jeep, Alex's truck, and Lori's Rogue.
Yeah. I'll be glad once the kids are found. If they're not, I'm not sure how long before I feel safe again.

 

[Ohmeohmy]

@RexburgSleuth
I totally remember you saying you had wondered if it was Lori at the funeral several threads back..
When I think I can not be more disgusted especially after hearing Lori was sending videos of herself dirty dancing, then we see the "Wedding Photo Shoot Ukulele Serenade " and now we take it to a new level with Lori attending the funeral. I want a full FBI profiling done on these two. They will probably end up in at Casey Anthony /Scott Peterson category. MOO

 

[Gardener1850]

There are no surrounding businesses where there service took place, just fields. Cameras in the parking lot, maybe.

Looks like she could have driven past some businesses with cameras to get there: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

Central Storage looks like it has cameras facing Pioneer Rd: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

And also possibly RV & Mini Storage: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

(Ironically, two storage places she didn't use)

On the corner of Pioneer Rd and West Main St there is a Maverick Gas Station that could have cameras and also traffic cameras at the light: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

Then there is a Mobile Station and more traffic cameras at the corner of W Main and N 12th St: خرائط ‪Google‬‏‏

And that's just businesses on one possible route. There could also be houses with Ring doorbells or home security cameras facing the street.

MOO.

 

[jjenny]

Wow. Thanks for answering. I don't know what that means if there are 3 Jeeps. Could they have been unsure on the model and color at the time they were asking you? Or, this is a bit wild, but maybe BB is red-green color blind (grey and green look the same) and he was unsure? I had a great chuckle at your gray/grey spelling quandary. I never know which spelling to use either, LOL. Seriously, I don't know what to make of the PI saying it was a green Cherokee. Maybe we should take that at face value. Maybe it was a green Cherokee. Just when I think I have my bearings in this case the rug gets ripped out from under me again and I have no idea which way is up. And if I feel that way you must feel that 10 times worse as someone who knows the people involved. I really appreciate you hanging with us and answering our questions.

PI says it was a green Cherokee, but the photo shows gray Jeep Wrangler. If it was a green Cherokee, why is the Wrangler in the photo?

 

[Gardener1850]

I'm fairly certain they had an idea of the car as I was shown photos of the Jeep, Alex's truck, and Lori's Rogue.
Yeah. I'll be glad once the kids are found. If they're not, I'm not sure how long before I feel safe again.

BBM. I'm so sorry, I can't imagine. I'm praying everyday they find the kids or that this at least gets resolved with some arrests.

And while this may not eliminate your fears, since I was just posting on the topic of cameras, I highly recommend getting one or two cameras for outside your home. I've read good things about these: https://www.amazon.com/Wyze-Indoor-...hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583863979938001&psc=1

 

[Gardener1850]

PI says it was a green Cherokee, but the photo shows gray Jeep Wrangler. If it was a green Cherokee, why is the Wrangler in the photo?

Yeah, that's what is so confusing to me.