Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #15

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Alex drove a truck to dispose of hazardous material from AZ to another state (ID?). Could it be possible that if the children are gone, he dumped their bodies there? MOO
You can't just dump hazardous materials. IMO Alex was transporting those to special facilites and there was likely supervision involved.
 
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Does anyone have Google Earth? Can you still draw distance circles on it? I'd love to see a 20 mile radius around 565 Pioneer Road, Rexburg, Idaho. See if we see any potential disposal sites. Jmo
Would a large desert area, river, wooded areas, sand dunes do? Seriously, lots of potential places.
 
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These guys are telling the same story that those posting here who knew Chad before this have been saying.
Well, Lori's friends have almost equally positive things to say about her in another preview.
 
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Would a large desert area, river, wooded areas, sand dunes do? Seriously, lots of potential places.
Totally. Just within a 20 Miles radius there would be seemingly endless possibilities not to mention if you widened the radius even a little or a lot. Add a 4x4 Jeep Wrangler into the mix and I would think it would be like finding a needle in a haystack unless they have some gps or other information to narrow it way down. MOO
 
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So we have something new already - Alex told a conflicting story from Lori about JJ from day 1. Ugh.

Now just wait a minute.. Alex answered Lori's door? Alex told Rexburg PD JJ was visiting grandparents in LA? "Later Lori told police a (another?) false story"? When later?

Where was Lori - if she was not at the town home - when Rexburg PD came by on the 26th to do the welfare check?

Just when did she tell Rexburg PD a (another?) false story? Did they come back and talk to her later that same day (on the 26th)? Or did they just talk to her on the phone (and if so, was it on the 26th - and was she still in Rexburg at the time)? We know they didn't talk to her in person face to face after the 26th - as the town home was empty when they came by with the SW on the 27th.

I'm confused. I thought Rexburg PD talked to Lori in person on the 26th and she lied straight to their face. But if Rexburg PD didn't actually talk to her in person on the 26th, she (and CD?) could've left well before then.
 
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Does anyone have Google Earth? Can you still draw distance circles on it? I'd love to see a 20 mile radius around 565 Pioneer Road, Rexburg, Idaho. See if we see any potential disposal sites. Jmo

20 mile radius around 565 Pioneer Road, Rexburg, Idaho.
 

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Now just wait a minute.. Alex answered Lori's door? Alex told Rexburg PD JJ was visiting grandparents in LA? "Later Lori told police a (another?) false story"? When later?

Where was Lori - if she was not at the town home - when Rexburg PD came by on the 26th to do the welfare check?

Just when did she tell Rexburg PD a (another?) false story? Did they come back and talk to her later that same day (on the 26th)? Or did they just talk to her on the phone (and if so, was it on the 26th - and was she still in Rexburg at the time)? We know they didn't talk to her in person face to face after the 26th - as the town home was empty when they came with the SW on the 27th.

I'm confused. I thought Rexburg PD talked to Lori in person on the 26th and she lied straight to their face. But if Rexburg PD didn't actually talk to her in person on the 26th, she (and CD?) could've left well before then.

Yeah, this is not corresponding to what we thought. Jmo
 
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Does anyone have Google Earth? Can you still draw distance circles on it? I'd love to see a 20 mile radius around 565 Pioneer Road, Rexburg, Idaho. See if we see any potential disposal sites. Jmo

I don't know how to do that but I posted earlier today about my guess for disposal. I'd love to see that circle as well.
 
  • #70
I can't find the police car footage of Alex Cox.

But I did find the footage from inside the house the day of Charles' shooting. Where does it state that Charles was shot twice in the chest in any official reports? The police officer states in this bodycam video "he shot him many times" and another one states "one, two, three, four shots".

Body Cam Footage Shows Aftermath of Homicide Linked to Disturbing Missing Children Case

Anyone have the link to the police car footage please?
 
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Does anyone have Google Earth? Can you still draw distance circles on it? I'd love to see a 20 mile radius around 565 Pioneer Road, Rexburg, Idaho. See if we see any potential disposal sites. Jmo

I'm not sure exactly what makes a good disposal site, nor how to draw a circle on Google Earth, but using Google maps, the measure distance, and my somewhat limited knowledge of the area a few possibilities jumped out at me:

1) The St Anthony Sand Dunes that we talked about the other day. Certainly Alex and crew could have hauled their load into the sand dunes. I'd assume digging a hole would have been easier than most places and also less likely to attract attention as out of line.

2) Not sure if a river, lake, pond, etc is a good place, but there are several possibilities along that line within 20 miles.

3) West of town in the country bordering highway 33 that another poster talked about looks like it has a ton of potential in land that isn't going to see much in the way of people traversing it now or even during the summer. (This might be the best option they had, in fact.)

4) Some mountainous areas to the south east which I believe are national forest land would provide some possibilities for disposal.

5) Depending on what you're looking for I suspect that if you evaluated the land that falls within the 20 mile radius you're thinking of that the amount of land that is rural (defined as no more than one or two houses within a half mile or something like that) would be a pretty big percentage, at least 50% and maybe as high as 70-80%. I'm just pulling numbers out of the air, but whatever the percentage is it is large (more than half). Yes, dumping a body in the middle of a wheat, corn, or (more likely here) potato field wouldn't be the smartest move, so a lot of the open land wouldn't be ideal, but there is also no shortage of good disposal sites.
 
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Would a large desert area, river, wooded areas, sand dunes do? Seriously, lots of potential places.

Exactly. Pick a random place in the country and odds of having as many different possibilities of different kinds of places that would work is going to be hard to beat Rexburg's possibilites. :)
 
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Now just wait a minute.. Alex answered Lori's door? Alex told Rexburg PD JJ was visiting grandparents in LA? "Later Lori told police a (another?) false story"? When later?

Where was Lori - if she was not at the town home - when Rexburg PD came by on the 26th to do the welfare check?

Just when did she tell Rexburg PD a (another?) false story? Did they come back and talk to her later that same day (on the 26th)? Or did they just talk to her on the phone (and if so, was it on the 26th - and was she still in Rexburg at the time)? We know they didn't talk to her in person face to face after the 26th - as the town home was empty when they came by with the SW on the 27th.

I'm confused. I thought Rexburg PD talked to Lori in person on the 26th and she lied straight to their face. But if Rexburg PD didn't actually talk to her in person on the 26th, she (and CD?) could've left well before then.
Watch the preview in question. Alex answered the door and told the police one story. Lori was at home as well. She told the police (after Alex's explanation for JJ's absence wasn't accepted) another story. This is all according to Kay, so it's not necessarily 100% accurate.
 
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Well, Lori's friends have almost equally positive things to say about her in another preview.

The Woodcock's, too. Until they didn't.

I feel like Keith Morrison could just repeat "Blah-blah-blah" for two hours tonight in that incredibly unsettling voice of his and I'll be happy that he is putting out pictures of everyone involved to a world of people who care about things like missing, possibly murdered, children. I know a lot of people are broken-hearted about this, I am, and it's going to be hard to watch for all of us. But I'm watching because I'm thankful that, after tonight, there's no escape for Chad and Lori from the eyes that will be on them.
 
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Watch the preview in question. Alex answered the door and told the police one story. Lori was at home as well. She told the police (after Alex's explanation for JJ's absence wasn't accepted) another story. This is all according to Kay, so it's not necessarily 100% accurate.
Thanks for clearing that up. Wonder why AC offered an explanation / location instead of just saying "hang on I'll get my sister". What a conspiracy. Either that or Lori disappeared the kids and then lied to AC telling him JJ (or they) were at grandparents
 
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I can't find the police car footage of Alex Cox.

But I did find the footage from inside the house the day of Charles' shooting. Where does it state that Charles was shot twice in the chest in any official reports? The police officer states in this bodycam video "he shot him many times" and another one states "one, two, three, four shots".

Body Cam Footage Shows Aftermath of Homicide Linked to Disturbing Missing Children Case

Anyone have the link to the police car footage please?

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to link it or not. On the one hand it is official Chandler Police Department body cam footage, but on the other hand the YouTube channel it's posted on isn't official LE or MSM. I'll post the link at the timestamp the conversation begins, but it may be removed. If the link is against the TOS I apologise, and you can find it again by searching YouTube for "Alex Cox police interview" and going to the 36:40 timestamp.

 
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Thanks for clearing that up. Wonder why AC offered an explanation / location instead of just saying "hang on I'll get my sister". What a conspiracy

So either he knew where they were or she lied to him too. Probably the former, IMO.
 
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