Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #16

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From the link.

"The couple boarded a plane at the Kahului Airport on Tuesday around 2 p.m. Hawaii time. Several passengers and airport employees tell EastIdahoNews.com they were quiet and kept to themselves. Sources say a police officer came to the gate to verify the Daybells were on the flight after they were observed checking in.


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Chad and Lori Daybell arrived at the Kauai airport Tuesday afternoon. | Courtesy photo "
 
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Absolutely. The teachings of the LDS church are very clear. Anyone and everyone who wants to live with God again has to be found worthy at the last day. The “shedding of innocent blood,” meaning murder, is at the top of a list of most heinous sins. It is taught that for a murderer it is not easy to retain a remission of sins, especially for someone who has been taught truth and made covenants with God and then broken them. Chad has definitely made covenants.

Also, every woman has full and complete say on whether or not she wants to remain sealed to her spouse. I use this doctrine to persuade my husband to help with the dishes more often. Totally kidding. My husband is actually wonderful and he helps with the dishes all the time without my even asking. Seriously, though, Tammy alone will make that decision for Tammy, if, and that seems to be a big if, Chad were to be worthy of such a blessing. That’s one comfort in all of this, as confused as I am about everything, God will judge righteous judgement.

Tammy is the reason I’m here. I adored her and I adore her children. They are truly the salt of the earth kind of people and this is all so devastating.
So sorry for your loss.
 
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Absolutely. The teachings of the LDS church are very clear. Anyone and everyone who wants to live with God again has to be found worthy at the last day. The “shedding of innocent blood,” meaning murder, is at the top of a list of most heinous sins. It is taught that for a murderer it is not easy to retain a remission of sins, especially for someone who has been taught truth and made covenants with God and then broken them. Chad has definitely made covenants.

Also, every woman has full and complete say on whether or not she wants to remain sealed to her spouse. I use this doctrine to persuade my husband to help with the dishes more often. Totally kidding. My husband is actually wonderful and he helps with the dishes all the time without my even asking. Seriously, though, Tammy alone will make that decision for Tammy, if, and that seems to be a big if, Chad were to be worthy of such a blessing. That’s one comfort in all of this, as confused as I am about everything, God will judge righteous judgement.

Tammy is the reason I’m here. I adored her and I adore her children. They are truly the salt of the earth kind of people and this is all so devastating.
So sorry for your loss.
Let’s just hope customs had to search their bags. I’m wondering what the heck they’re upto. Jmo
They wouldn't have to go thru customs would they?
 
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Comparing the Hertz photo to today's, I think they have two blue rollaboards and two black backpacks. That big black bag at the Hertz counter had a laptop bag on the handle. Pretty sure that belonged to the person standing next to them.
I am wondering if the kids are on Maui somewhere and they went to visit to get video evidence or something. As LE were at the airport and Maui police said they were not involved that had to be FBI checking the flight desk IMO. So I think LE must have followed them wherever they went anyway so they came back as they could maybe not do what they were going to do. AJMOO
 
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I am wondering if the kids are on Maui somewhere and they went to visit to get video evidence or something. As LE were at the airport and Maui police said they were not involved that had to be FBI checking the flight desk IMO. So I think LE must have followed them wherever they went anyway so they came back as they could maybe not do what they were going to do. AJMOO

I think thats unlikely. I believe the LE has said there are no flights which had JJ or TR listed as passangers. Its probably unlikely they faked documents. Possible but unlikely. Which leaves them to be driven somewhere...

I think the suggestion that they got married again is much more likely. Especially with spotting of the wedding rings. Also explains short trip and no sightings.
 
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I'm looking at a copy of USA Today - no article about them in this edition. I'm in Indiana traveling this week.
Any news on your VI status?
 
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I think thats unlikely. I believe the LE has said there are no flights which had JJ or TR listed as passangers. Its probably unlikely they faked documents. Possible but unlikely. Which leaves them to be driven somewhere...

I think the suggestion that they got married again is much more likely. Especially with spotting of the wedding rings. Also explains short trip and no sightings.
Perhaps a proper ceremony at a church this time?
 
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After the searches, I have a feeling those bags will never leave their sides for long. They are stuck hauling them around and keeping them close. I am expecting to soon see pics of them and their bags standing in line at the hotel breakfast buffet.
ROFL

That wouldn't prevent another search though. :-)
 
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Finally, I get a moment to catch up! I can only access WS on mobile most of the time, which makes posts tough.

I've had a nagging thought for a few days. CD and LD had quite the set of wedding photos done. For all their doomsday stuff...why get photos done, if the world is ending in July? This concept just struck me as really funny.
They are going to be two of the chosen 144,000 so plan to survive with their photos I guess.
 
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Not at all, that I am aware of, in terms of pressure on Chandler PD. I will see what I can find out tomorrow.
The news stations are too busy showing the same clip of that so-called sighting in Nashville. They often give you the same story for days on end, with no new info. There is another missing person case in my area where he went hiking and never came back, and has been missing since the end of December. That story is glossed over by the news outlets..I didn't know about it until I saw it on Websleuths. So yeah, news media here isn't what I would consider reliable.
That's interesting. Do you have a link to the local news clip showing the Nashville story? Why would they be pushing that so much?
 
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Video of Lori and Chad leaving their hotel in Maui. Not sure I can post this, please remove if unacceptable. Lauren Steinbrecher Fox 13
That's a great clip thanks. So know we know where they stayed. They sure are moving fast and Lori looking back and forth as she walks.

ETA they still have the two backpacks and rolling travel cases.

Kaanapali, Maui hotel for 2 nights beachfront room at $500 per night.

ETA If it is the KBH they do weddings at that hotel so maybe they quickly and secretly got properly hitched.

Kāʻanapali Beach Hotel - Oceanfront Hotel in Lahaina, Maui, HI
 
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How can we find that blog?
Google. I would post a link but presumably that's not allowed. It's JR's sister, Tylee's biological aunt.
 
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That's a great clip thanks. So know we know where they stayed. They sure are moving fast and Lori looking back and forth as she walks.

Kanapali, Maui hotel for 2 nights beachfront room at $500 per night.
And definitely not holding hands in that one. Barely in the same video frame together.
 
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One thing from Dateline which I did find interesting was that MBP did not attend AC wedding eventhough they were in the area. As she got married a day apart.

Was there an LDS preppers ofshoot event happening that week in Las Vegas? Was there other weddings which happened that week of other people in the congregation? (Perhaps one for nate to look into as we can't sluth random people)
Was it a mass marriage event?

Has anyone checked for a marriage certificate for Tylee that week too?

All just spitballing ideas. I have no evidence for any of this. Just lots of questions.
 
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Google. I would post a link but presumably that's not allowed. It's JR's sister, Tylee's biological aunt.
Sorry I was thinking that JR was the other JR in this case. I know who it is now you've said that, thanks.
 
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Here's the deal,..when we all solve this case and get JJ back to Kay and Tylee with her Aunt...We are all going to meet for lunch somewhere since I think most of us could be friends. MOO
but where!! I vote for Kauai..my favorite island......... I am probably as far away from there as possible in the continental US, though... oh well..
 
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One thing from Dateline which I did find interesting was that MBP did not attend AC wedding eventhough they were in the area. As she got married a day apart.

Was there an LDS preppers ofshoot event happening that week in Las Vegas? Was there other weddings which happened that week of other people in the congregation? (Perhaps one for nate to look into as we can't sluth random people)
Was it a mass marriage event?

Has anyone checked for a marriage certificate for Tylee that week too?

All just spitballing ideas. I have no evidence for any of this. Just lots of questions.
questions are good......i never thought about this Vegas idea.... I forget...do we have a knowledgeable Prepper person on our threads???
 
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I wish we had a love and a laugh button
ha ha ha..... i have stated the same thing!! sometimes I think we are all getting a little bit punch-drunk for the relief of it all...
 
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