Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #9

[Jethro4WS]

So interesting they were served for this on the 25th and then they did the SWs today. I'm sure there's a reason for that and I can't wait to find out what it is.

Perhaps in the aftermath of being served on Saturday plane reservations were made to go elsewhere.

 

[MassGuy]

I wonder if Lori knew Idaho could do that, or if this comes as a surprise.

I’d just love to be a fly on the wall in their hotel room right now. They’ve got to be panicking.

 

[KonaHonu]

I was just about to ask the same. I assume Lori could be arrested for non-compliance (contempt?)?

Somebody mentioned that it is easier to get her to come back to Idaho than to extradite her from Hawaii. I agree. But if she simply disobeys the order to produce the kids in Idaho and stays in Hawaii, I think it is far less likely that a court would order extradition for contempt of court. They could also potentially challenge the Idaho order on jurisdictional grounds. Just speculating here but Lori was not in Idaho very long. If she is still an Arizona (or Hawaii resident) legally then I think there is a good possibility that Idaho lacks jurisdiction.

I don't know, I think they are both guilty as heck of many things. But innocence could also explain their behavior. If they know the kids are perfectly safe somewhere with trusted friends to protect them from all this drama, I could understand why they might get angry with all the attention from police, press, etc.

We'll know within 5 days I guess. If they produce the kids this might all just go away until there is significant evidence to charge them in a death, which may never happen. If they don't I think they will be arrested in Hawaii and Idaho will have to battle getting them.

 

[jjenny]

Chad lost weight! I didn't even recognize him at first!

You gotta get that BMI below 25, you know.

 

[Gardener1850]

How many reporters/news crews do we think are excitedly catching a red-eye flight to Hawaii tonight or early tomorrow morning to camp out at Lori and Chad's Princeville townhouse? I hope at least half a dozen are on their way.

 

[jjenny]

MOO that JJ’s biological relatives should have sought custody of JJ after Charles was killed. Seems like with the divorce petition from Charles’ lawyer, they would have a pretty good case. Also seems to me that Lori didn’t really want custody of JJ. I don’t think there was anyone fighting for Tylee, sadly.

The issue with divorce petition is that it's only one side of the story. Lori would just deny it all. And grandparents don't have many rights. I am sure their lawyer told them that.

 

[Jethro4WS]

I’d just love to be a fly on the wall in their hotel room right now. They’ve got to be panicking.

If Lori is not then Chad should be concerned because if he has never seen the under-carriage of a bus before he is going to get a brand new experience he can write about.

 

[Redvines86]

How many reporters/news crews do we think are excitedly catching a red-eye flight to Hawaii tonight or early tomorrow morning to camp out at Lori and Chad's Princeville townhouse? I hope at least half a dozen are on their way.

You know Daily Mail's on it! lol!

 

[Gardener1850]

Somebody mentioned that it is easier to get her to come back to Idaho than to extradite her from Hawaii. I agree. But if she simply disobeys the order to produce the kids in Idaho and stays in Hawaii, I think it is far less likely that a court would order extradition for contempt of court. They could also potentially challenge the Idaho order on jurisdictional grounds. Just speculating here but Lori was not in Idaho very long. If she is still an Arizona (or Hawaii resident) legally then I think there is a good possibility that Idaho lacks jurisdiction.

I don't know, I think they are both guilty as heck of many things. But innocence could also explain their behavior. If they know the kids are perfectly safe somewhere with trusted friends to protect them from all this drama, I could understand why they might get angry with all the attention from police, press, etc.

We'll know within 5 days I guess. If they produce the kids this might all just go away until there is significant evidence to charge them in a death, which may never happen. If they don't I think they will be arrested in Hawaii and Idaho will have to battle getting them.

The FBI is involved and federal agents were reportedly there assisting local police with serving the search warrants. I think the feds will make sure extradition from HI happens if there are ID or AZ charges. MOO.

 

[KonaHonu]

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Madison Co. Prosecutor’s Office says there is no evidence that Tylee & JJ were w/ Lori Vallow and her new husband Chad Daybell in Princeville. Failure to comply w/ order may subject Lori to civil or criminal contempt of court.

According to Wikipedia, Hawaii is one of three states that do not extradite for misdemeanors.

Criminal contempt of court is a misdemeanor in Idaho Section 18-1801 – Idaho State Legislature

So there really is little Idaho can do if they just ignore the order and stay in Hawaii.

 

[Jessthinkin]

I’d just love to be a fly on the wall in their hotel room right now. They’ve got to be panicking.

Him for sure; she struck me as hard as nails in that video. Maybe she’s missing the ‘panicking’ gene... as well as the motherly gene, among many others...

 

[mickey2942]

Lori has an adult son who did a Youtube video asking for her to please contact the police and let them know where Tylee and JJ were.

That gal is some piece of work, to completely blow off her son. I assume that she was not the world's greatest mother. Those poor kids.

 

[Gardener1850]

"Law enforcement declined to provide any details about Sunday’s operation, but the Madison County prosecutor is expected to release more information Monday about what’s next in the case."

EXCLUSIVE: Daybells served with search warrants in Hawaii | East Idaho News

Madison County Prosecutor's office info for reference:
Madison County, Idaho - Prosecuting Attorney

I hope they will have a press conference Monday and announce new charges.

MOO.

 

[KonaHonu]

So interesting they were served for this on the 25th and then they did the SWs today. I'm sure there's a reason for that and I can't wait to find out what it is.

The release says Thursday Jan 25. Not clear if it was Thursday or yesterday.

 

[whitelilac]

They are not going to comply. They will not be going to Idaho in the next 5 days IMO.

 

[mickey2942]

They are not going to comply. They will not be going to Idaho in the next 5 days IMO.

Interesting. Then, the feds will up the ante. And, who knows what is in store for Chad? This could be just Act 1, of a very well planned drama.

 

[KonaHonu]

Interesting. Then, the feds will up the ante. And, who knows what is in store for Chad? This could be just Act 1, of a very well planned drama.

I don't see the federal angle. What federal crime are they even suspected of?

 

[whitelilac]

I also think it's appalling that she would go back to Kauai with Chad, after having lived there with her murdered husband.

 

[Redvines86]

Interesting. Then, the feds will up the ante. And, who knows what is in store for Chad? This could be just Act 1, of a very well planned drama.

I agree, the FBI has put too much time and effort into this to give up because Miss Lori doesn't want to get on a plane. I'm pretty sure The FBI has a very well planned case, as you say. MOO.

 

[Gardener1850]

According to Wikipedia, Hawaii is one of three states that do not extradite for misdemeanors.

Criminal contempt of court is a misdemeanor in Idaho Section 18-1801 – Idaho State Legislature

So there really is little Idaho can do if they just ignore the order and stay in Hawaii.

Well I guess we shall have to wait and see, but I disagree. I think the feds can force extradition from Hawaii. I also expect that there will be stronger charges than contempt of court filed. We are not privy to the autopsy results yet (for both Tammy and Alex). Plus, if the ID court finds Lori in contempt for not producing her children by the deadline then that charge may open doors for additional warrants to be carried out. If Lori is innocent and the children are alive and well then all she has to do is produce them for the court or tell police where to find them.

MOO.