Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 17, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *mom, stepfather found* #9

[SuziQ]

So you think they were killed or are with a friend or relative? They have been in Hawai since 27th Nov without the kids. So they were there when AC died. Were the kids left with AC and new wife? Your ex wife is dug up and still you stay on your two month honeymoon. Then your brother dies while you are on your two month honeymoon and you still do not return. These are two cold hearted b***hes IMO.

I apologize. I have tried to keep up with all the articles posted in this thread. Do we know the exact date Lori and Chad arrived in Hawaii? TIA.

 

[Randocalrissian]

They said it was not Hawaii for the vacation- (thread 8, post #327).
They did say that they were told that Chad went to Hawaii immediately after Tammy’s funeral to grieve and help a writer edit a book.

I believe the family vacation was to Southern California. There were social media pictures posted with Chad and his children, but no pictures of Lori.

 

[SuziQ]

Dbm.

 

[Randocalrissian]

They said it was not Hawaii for the vacation- (thread 8, post #327).
They did say that they were told that Chad went to Hawaii immediately after Tammy’s funeral to grieve and help a writer edit a book.

I believe the family vacation was to Southern California. There were social media pictures posted with Chad and his children, but no pictures of Lori.

 

[tresir2012]

Springville neighborhood family and their friends.

Ok thanks for clarifying. Are you local?

 

[SuziQ]

Don't worry, I'm on top of it. A lot has happened and a lot is still to happen this week. I plan to post a new timeline update (#5) over the weekend. Friday night at the earliest, depending on what happens Thursday/Friday. For now, anyone wanting to catch up on new info should read the media thread (linked in the first post of this thread). I've been trying to post all the new MSM and LE press releases over there but please add to it if you see something new in the MSM that's not there yet. Thanks!

You rock!

 

[Gardener1850]

@Gardener1850

Here's an event link that shows the details and a poster advertising the February Boise event on 16th Feb 2019. So we can place Chad and Lori there with a friend ( possibly Tylee or MB )

Feb 16 · Near Death Experiences, Dreams of Future Events, Overcoming Disappointments — Nextdoor

Thanks. I know. I had it in the timeline before (along with all the podcasts) but I took it out because of the cease and desist. Thanks for the Nextdoor source. I might add that event only back and leave out what exactly it was for (the group that shall not be named). Chad's location in Feb is key. I'm not sure if Lori was in ID or only told people she was going to be there but went to HI instead. I believe Charles' lawyers sent service processors to Boise and tried to serve Lori at the hotel, airport and the event where Chad spoke. But they could not find her. They were trying to serve both divorce papers and an order of protection Charles filed. Similarly, Charles saw Lori's car parked at Alex's San Tan Valley home in Feb but no one was there. Perhaps she parked the car and Alex took her to the airport to go to HI? I wonder if Alex went to HI too?

MOO.

 

[Alpha Bravo]

Indeed. This is a fight that Lori cannot win. Once the state is involved - which occurred when Rexburg PD opened a missing persons case - the only way it ends is if the missing persons are physically seen (in person) by law enforcement as no other means are acceptable. If she does not comply a bench warrant will be issued and she will be brought back to Idaho to appear before the judge.

But but but, if only we can delay court action until judgement day? Coming up soon on an earth near you! Aloha

 

[tresir2012]

I apologize. I have tried to keep up with all the articles posted in this thread. Do we know the exact date Lori and Chad arrived in Hawaii? TIA.

I don't think we have the exact date of arrival in Hawaii only the fact that MSM have said they have been there two months which could be from around Thanksgiving . We only know when they left the Rexburg apartment However, Chad was on vacation with family for Thanksgiving so they may have arrived separately in Hawaii, so no exact date.

 

[Gardener1850]

So you think they were killed or are with a friend or relative? They have been in Hawai since 27th Nov without the kids. So they were there when AC died. Were the kids left with AC and new wife? Your ex wife is dug up and still you stay on your two month honeymoon. Then your brother dies while you are on your two month honeymoon and you still do not return. These are two cold hearted b***hes IMO.

Have you read a MSM source saying they went to HI on Nov 27th specifically? I have only seen mentions of 3 weeks and 2 months-- general time frames for when they got there. We know Chad told people he was going to Hawaii and our VI said he moved out of the Salem house the day after Tammy's memorial but I'm still looking for their exact dates of travel. TIA.

ETA: Nevermind, I saw your post above that we still don't have exact dates. January is almost over. If someone says "2 months" now that could be a rough estimate that they saw Lori and Chad most of Dec and Jan. I'm awaiting more specifics. Thanks. MOO.

 

[Randocalrissian]

Ok thanks for clarifying. Are you local?

Yes. I am still awaiting VI verification. While they lived in Springville, Chad, Tammy and their kids were our neighbors, and his family and my family were very close. Years ago, for a time, he was my best friend. That deteriorated as I began to question his publishing choices and seeming changing views. I was never a part of his prepper groups, but watched from afar out of concern for him and his family.

 

[Alpha Bravo]

You are the guru! This solves my question as to where Lori was January-March 2019. And now we can place Tylee with her.

Indeed, and it's hilarious that Lori couldn't bear to be in Idaho for one single real winter. How do you move somewhere without checking the weather? Well, you might say Idaho is the Banana Belt, compared to Alberta Canada.

 

[Alpha Bravo]

I think that was his one mistake. I think he was talking about Kay, who is her former sister in law / JJ’s grandmother, not Lori’s mom. I am not aware of Lori’s mother ever publicly stating anything.

edited to add agreement with others theory that Nate might have been misspeaking on purpose to solicit a response.

Yes it was in error, and he tried everything in his bag of tricks to trigger any kind of response. In a couple days, we'll learn what their response is to the court... and they won't be able to ignore that situation for long.

 

[tresir2012]

Yes. I am still awaiting VI verification. While they lived in Springville, Chad, Tammy and their kids were our neighbors, and his family and my family were very close. Years ago, for a time, he was my best friend. That deteriorated as I began to question his publishing choices and seeming changing views. I was never a part of his prepper groups, but watched from afar out of concern for him and his family.

TY for being here. What did you think of him on the video yesterday?

 

[Alpha Bravo]

I believe the family vacation was to Southern California. There were social media pictures posted with Chad and his children, but no pictures of Lori.

What were some of Chad's hobbies? Did he hunt, fish, hike, ski, golf? We know Lori is a big fan of Hawaii, was this his #1 go to place as well? He had a good size family, perhaps all his free time was absorbed in that?

 

[FindingJoLee]

Indeed, and it's hilarious that Lori couldn't bear to be in Idaho for one single real winter. How do you move somewhere without checking the weather? Well, you might say Idaho is the Banana Belt, compared to Alberta Canada.

Maybe being there all winter wasn't in their plans...

 

[Randocalrissian]

What were some of Chad's hobbies? Did he hunt, fish, hike, ski, golf? We know Lori is a big fan of Hawaii, was this his #1 go to place as well? He had a good size family, perhaps all his free time was absorbed in that?

I should probably wait for VI status, no? He was not outdoorsy, other than typical Boy Scout / father of sons who were also Boy Scouts, activities. He likes 80’s music, particularly the Smiths and Morrissey. He was proud of his fiction, and publishing more popular authors, like former NFL QB Scott Mitchel and American Idol participant Carmen Rasmussen.

 

[nopynono]

the lawyer did not mention any desire to wage some constitutional fight on lori and family rights to privacy and pursuit of happiness so i assume that is not what is happening here. so if the children are fine and will be revealed as such on thursday why hasn't lori already done so? everything could have been wrapped up yesterday and lori could carry on with her life in HI.

I wonder if this is going to play into their deluded plan. National news, big scandal, turns out to be nothing. Then they play it off like its proof they're translated beings and satan was just trying to stop them from leading the 144000 by trying to turn the nation against them.

 

[UnknownSleuth]

Oh, phew! Glad the part about Tylee and Lori being in Hawaii in Feb. 2019 was finally in MSM! Lori is sure good at avoiding being served papers, and fleeing to Hawaii is her M.O. (Joe custody battle, Charles divorce/protection order, and now this whole investigation). Nice to see her on video yesterday finally being served.

 

[Randocalrissian]

TY for being here. What did you think of him on the video yesterday?

He is not an animated, nor high energy person. He seemed to be his typical stoic self. Seeing the beginnings of his physical transformation was interesting. IMO he has always craved the spotlight, but I can’t imagine he would want it in a negative light. I believe he wants to be seen as an authority figure. Perhaps if he can somehow weather this storm, this solidifies his base with his prepper community? But I don’t see how he pulls that off.

ETA Tammy’s passing was horrific to everyone. Chad’s behavior afterward was alarming, and his quick marriage to Lori immediately created animosity with many extended family and friends. As more details have come out, I believe he has become more and more isolated. I expect his losing face with those from his past will only drive him to seek greater validation from those that still accept him.