Oh, and I suppose Ozzie and Harriet brutally murdering their own daughter and writing a letter about beheading her is NOT preposterous.
OK so we can't peer into AG, LM, neighbors, friends, employees. What CAN we do?
I've never been completely convinced that there was no stun gun used, even by people who say they have used them on themselves, to test if marks would be left.
My reasons are that: JBR was a small child and would have be more susceptible; you would not hold a stun gun on yourself for any length of time (at least not till you were disabled); stun guns are simple to build so there is no need to match the marks on JBR to any product on the market; home built stun guns could use excessive 'power'; cattle prodders are easily obtainable and one of these could have been used.
Yes, there are so many variables that it seems impossible to come up with something that fits. Some are red herrings. I'm trying to list all the different pieces.
The Ransom Note
The Head Bash
The Garrotte
The Tape on her mouth
The Hands tied and Wrapping up in a blanket
The Pineapple
The Fibers
The DNA
The Suitcase under the window
The Footprints in the wine cellar
The sexual assault with stick
The wiping and re-dressing of the body
The leaving of the body at the house
The prior sexual assault
The ????
There are a couple of things that seem to fit together, a bit like when you do a jigsaw on the computer and you hear that satisfying 'click' when a piece drops into place, but there seems to be a lot of pieces missing.
I think "the boot print belongs to BR" is another myth.So what if he owned a pair.First of all,the print found in the basement was from a shoe owned by an adult.B was 9 years old.
Somehow, P amd J were deeply devoted, loving parents, loving their children with all their beings, made a terrible mistake by smashing in Joni's skull in a fit of rage, and then suddenly became monsters. Wonderful, sweet, loving parents like they were do not necessarily become deviant predators after losing it for a split second.
Thus the exercise of writing down P's thoughts and feelings as she winds the stick around her neck reduces the greatest love known to mankind to disposing of garbage. Yet, trying to put down on paper imagined ideas flowing through her head was difficult or impossible to do in realistic terms.
Don't tell me that parents who killed their child (ACCIDENT,not planned) can survive the guilt and mock everybody on national TV.
If it was an accident they would have been devastated,ESPECIALLY after finding out that she was still alive when they finished her off with the garrote.
In light of the admission that the Ramseys were unfairly targeted as the suspects, causing untold suffering, doesn't the state owe some kind of restitution to them?
It doesn't wash, MurriFlower. For one thing, her being a child wouldn't change how it works. It affects the muscles; to knock her out, it would have to affect her brain. Moreover, even if what you say about variances is true, stun gun marks are electrical burns. These were not burns. And you're talking to someone brave enough (YEAH, let's go with brave!) to have someone zap him multiple times.
Nevertheless, according to this theory, she had to make a conscious decision to fake the cause of her death. To accomplish this task, right after she killed her daughter, took much effort, thought and careful planning.
Remember, first she had to get past the shock and horror of this unbelievable tragedy. Then, she had to conceive a plan out of nothing, with no experience, to disguise the real cause of death convincingly.
Her eyes, her little cheeks, her beautiful head of hair, tiny JB, motionless and quiet. No more smiles, never again the sleepy sounds, "mommy, daddy." Just stillness and silence. There but gone, gone for good, in a split-second flash moment and it was all over.
I've seen the word "flair" used to incorporate the special styling Patsy would apply to the staging.
To me this was worse than a simple murder.
Rather than doing everything she could to resuscitate her, she concocted a scheme to disguise what just happened. To pass muster with cops, she strangled her. No Premeditation?
JOHN RAMSEY The garrote...was deeply embedded in JonBenet's throat.
Her hands were tightly bound,
The fundamental issue is no logic has been applied to any of this case.
Why would I for example have staged this horrible scene, and then disturbed it myself, pulled the tape off her mouth, carried her upstairs, tried to untie the hands before I brought her upstairs. If I'd have staged it, I would've wanted the police to see it as I staged it. It's not logical. Makes no sense.
You seem very sure the marks are not burns?
How so?
Oh and BTW, are you prepared to comment about the affect on time of death?
And
the garrote + sexual assault really bother me.
I can't fit those into any RDI theories,I tried.I can't.It seems that the only RDI explanation is that they didn't know she was still alive when they strangled her and assaulted her as part of the staging.
It's annoying to go back and read that for ex. JR was "cleared" in ST's mind and PR was targeted just because of the bed-wetting rumors.ST kept telling JR well,you can't know,you weren't there,implying that she did it all by herself.Hard to believe.
And then there's everything else re LE
I am!
You mean besides the fact that several pathologists, including the coroner, said that they weren't? Besides the fact that as late as 2007 Tom Wickman said they'd proven there was no stun gun used? Besides the fact that the marks I had looked completely different than hers? Okay. I can show you a place where you can see the difference for yourself:
http://gemart.8m.com/ramsey/stungun.html
SD we are having these 'communication' problems again, perhaps it's a language barrier.
The website is dedicated to excluding marks made by an Air Taser. My point was that:
1. Stun guns are easy to make/modify at home.
2. Home made stun guns would not need to comply to any safety regulations regarding the current/amps
3. Children would be more susceptible to their effects due to low body mass/muscle ratio
4. Cattle prodders are easy to obtain and could easily be modified to create this effect.
Whilst I appreciate the lengths to which you have gone to prove that 'a stun gun' wasn't used, this just demonstrates the effect that a particular brand of stun gun (available on the market) has on an adult.
IDI may not play by the rules!
So while you have dismissed it as of no importance, I still have the opinion that one may have been used.
Whilst I appreciate the lengths to which you have gone to prove that 'a stun gun' wasn't used, this just demonstrates the effect that a particular brand of stun gun (available on the market) has on an adult.
IDI may not play by the rules!
So while you have dismissed it as of no importance, I still have the opinion that one may have been used.
Oh, just another thought on the above.
Apparently a video on stun guns was found in the R's house?
Was this a promotional video for a particular brand (Air Taser for example) or was it perhaps just demonstrating how they are used and the effects?
I believe it was a promotional video, but every promotional media piece I know of has some demonstration in it.
JOHN RAMSEY Well, that's absurd. This was done by a terrible person. The garrote...was deeply embedded in JonBenet's throat. Her hands were tightly bound, I couldn't get the knot untied, I tried to get it untied, even before I brought her upstairs, The fundamental issue is no logic has been applied to any of this case. Why would I for example have staged this horrible scene, and then disturbed it myself, pulled the tape off her mouth, carried her upstairs, tried to untie the hands before I brought her upstairs. If I'd have staged it, I would've wanted the police to see it as I staged it. It's not logical. Makes no sense.
