IDI: Whats your problem?

[Holdontoyourhat]

Would it? With this crowd, I figured it'd be like ringing the dinner bell for pirahnas!

Now it just seems like you've got a witty answer for everything that comes up.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

What does your reply have to do with what I said?

There was a Whitefang post embedded in your post to which I responded. My guess is that somebody removed the post.

 

[DeeDee249]

There was a Whitefang post embedded in your post to which I responded. My guess is that somebody removed the post.

Oh. Why?

 

[OneLove]

Try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borderline_Personality_Disorder

It has a bibliography, too.

:nono: Shucks, I was watching to see how long the whining would last. :biggrin:

 

[OneLove]

What does your reply have to do with what I said?

My info came from LHP interview, easily found online. I don't recall making a comment about any IDI ideas. This information has been around for a long time. To say that because Patsy was always well-dressed she wouldn't have left a dirty glass on the table on the night before she was leaving on 2 separate holiday vacations is illogical. It was a busy night- she had a lot to do and this was before JB's death, not after. I doubt she'd think to do it after.

Not to mention that she had a housekeeper to take care of every need in their absence, from cleaning house to fixing broken windows, moving Christmas decorations, changing urine-soaked sheets, etc. I don't think she'd think twice about leaving a glass. Wasn't she also leaving for a house that the "hired staff" had readied for their arrival, even putting out the Christmas decor?

I note that in some posts it is said that she was rather messy and unkempt, not in the habit of bathing and changing clothes daily, and then it switches to the polar opposite of compulsively tidy when it is convenient to make the case on a different detail. The pendulum swings to suit?

 

[OneLove]

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA! Are we talking about the same person here? The woman who called a magazine publisher's wife pretending to be his mistress in revenge?

Okay, I have to ask. I have not heard this one. Can you elaborate a wee bit, or alternately, point me in the right direction for reading about it? TIA

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Can I suggest a new thread? How about Tips for a Tidy Crime Scene, or General Gossip?

 

[madeleine]

PMPT,499

"...and the partial palm print on the ransom note-neither of which could be dated with certainty..."

What partial palm print?
IIRC they found PR's prints on the pad,but no prints on the note.Was this partial print ever identified?

 

[MurriFlower]

"I beg your pardon? Are you suggesting I am being an imbecile?"

"AHHH Yess, my little chickadee dee, dee, dee! I see, I see."

Chewing on the end of a stogie, tipping my straw hat.

"That will do. That will do, my lovely.

What's that you say? Say again.

Oh, I see. You want to know if I like children?

Well why didn't you say so in the first place?

Well, my dear, let me think a moment.

Well, Surely my dear. I do like children.

Of course I do,

Well done."

What the ***??

 

[DeeDee249]

PMPT,499

"...and the partial palm print on the ransom note-neither of which could be dated with certainty..."

What partial palm print?
IIRC they found PR's prints on the pad,but no prints on the note.Was this partial print ever identified?

This partial palm print was one of the earlier discoveries, and though it was sourced, corrections were never really run in the media. This was a partial palm print found in the basement on the wineceller door, I believe, or nearby. Originally unsourced, it was found to have come from JR's older daughter, MR. But that part wasn't as "advertised" in the media as was the original assumption that it was an "intruder's".

 

[madeleine]

Yes but what partial print on the note?

 

[cynic]

Yes but what partial print on the note?

Q. Was there any partial palm print found on the ransom note?

A. Mr. Wood, I talk about in the book the prints that were found on the tablet and the note, but beyond that, I don't have any real evidence beyond that. Early there was believed to have been a partial palm which I believed turned out to be nothing.

Q. Do you know whether there was any effort to take that what was believed to be a partial palm and compare it to the palm print found on the wine cellar door?

A. What I'm saying is I don't know that what was initially believed to be a partial print was even a print.

ST Deposition

 

[BBB167893]

Okay, I have to ask. I have not heard this one. Can you elaborate a wee bit, or alternately, point me in the right direction for reading about it? TIA

I certainly can elaborate. The Rs mentioned it in their book, if memory serves. I certainly mention it in mine:

One of the more striking episodes in their never-ending quest involved Tony Frost, editor-in-chief of the "GLOBE" tabloid. A lot of people don't like Mr. Frost, including the Ramseys, I'm sure. But Patsy's approach (perhaps suggested by Susan Stine) was to find the man's home phone number and call his wife claiming to be his mistress in order to ruin his marriage, maybe even spark an incident like that between Carlo and Connie in The Godfather.

Whether or not Frost deserved it is a matter of opinion. But it flies in the face of the "never uttered a negative word through the whole ordeal" assertion, doesn't it?

 

[MurriFlower]

Originally Posted by SuperDave View Post
WHOA, WHOA, WHOA! Are we talking about the same person here? The woman who called a magazine publisher's wife pretending to be his mistress in revenge?

I certainly can elaborate. The Rs mentioned it in their book, if memory serves. I certainly mention it in mine:

One of the more striking episodes in their never-ending quest involved Tony Frost, editor-in-chief of the "GLOBE" tabloid. A lot of people don't like Mr. Frost, including the Ramseys, I'm sure. But Patsy's approach (perhaps suggested by Susan Stine) was to find the man's home phone number and call his wife claiming to be his mistress in order to ruin his marriage, maybe even spark an incident like that between Carlo and Connie in The Godfather.

Whether or not Frost deserved it is a matter of opinion. But it flies in the face of the "never uttered a negative word through the whole ordeal" assertion, doesn't it?

Hello SD

Confused by your posts. I think you are saying that the R's said in their book that PR phoned this Globe E-I-C's wife pretending to be his mistress??

Or is this what you think, believe, or is your opinion about the matter?

 

[OneLove]

I certainly can elaborate. The Rs mentioned it in their book, if memory serves. I certainly mention it in mine:

One of the more striking episodes in their never-ending quest involved Tony Frost, editor-in-chief of the "GLOBE" tabloid. A lot of people don't like Mr. Frost, including the Ramseys, I'm sure. But Patsy's approach (perhaps suggested by Susan Stine) was to find the man's home phone number and call his wife claiming to be his mistress in order to ruin his marriage, maybe even spark an incident like that between Carlo and Connie in The Godfather.

Whether or not Frost deserved it is a matter of opinion. But it flies in the face of the "never uttered a negative word through the whole ordeal" assertion, doesn't it?

To stoop to such a low standard of behavior says much about one's character.

This kind of action, calling a wife and pretending to be his mistress, is also something that would not be surprising behavior in someone Borderline Personality Disordered.

Then again, it could just be an infantile maturity level.

It makes me wonder how many similar things Patsy did over the years. Did she carry inordinate levels of resentment about things and become obsessive about perceived slights? In a simple manner of thinking, did she POUT about things that did not go her way? If so, could this loop back to an emotional reaction about the Christmas doll rejection? Just questions......

 

[BBB167893]

Hello SD

Hello.

Confused by your posts. I think you are saying that the R's said in their book that PR phoned this Globe E-I-C's wife pretending to be his mistress??

That's right. My memory is a bit fuzzy as to whether or not Susan Stine had a hand in it.

Or is this what you think, believe, or is your opinion about the matter?

I'm pretty sure it really happened.

 

[joeskidbeck]

SD, I also read the account of what you are describing and for the life of me, I can't remember where it was. I'm almost positive that SS had a hand in it though.

 

[DeeDee249]

SD, I also read the account of what you are describing and for the life of me, I can't remember where it was. I'm almost positive that SS had a hand in it though.

SS was behind the emails where she pretended to be LE. She was actually caught, but for some strange reason, was not arrested or charged with impersonating a law enforcement officer. I hadn't read about the "mistress" phone call, but I wouldn't be surprised is she had something to do with it.

 

[OneLove]

I do remember reading of a Susan Stine event of similar "ilk". A journalist rang their door bell, meaning to ask for an interview. Susan asked him for identification. He handed it to her and she took it, kept it, and slammed the door, then called the Boulder Police Department and reported him for criminal stalking. Based on what Susan Stine told them, they raced over, tackled and handcuffed him. Only when they talked to him did they realize that Susan Stine had *cough cough* "misrepresented" the facts. I am guessing, based on her other well-reported behaviors, that she probably thought she had been pretty smart. I wonder if she ever did realize that people would consider her antics as off-center and immature. The accountings I read of this incident seemed to point out that JR spent more time being mad at journalists and media people than at his daughter's murderer. Hmmm....

 

[madeleine]

Is this what you were looking for?

DOI,pg157

"Later one of our friends,who shall remain nameless,decided to give the Globe a taste of its own medicine.She had Globe editor Tony Frost's home number,which had come from that man's laminated card.Why not give him a call?After all,the editor of such a publication ought to want to talk with one of his fans,shouldn't he?

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"At the office?he's supposed to be here at my apartment"
"What?!" (Frost's wife)

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