If the phone records from that night magically disappeared, who do you think the Ramseys were speaking to? How much detail did they share to get help.

[Disgusted]

As to the question why Boyles has never mentioned it again, I can make a guess at a few reasons.

There is zero proof Boyles ever made that statement or any claim of seeing those phone records. He still does live shows regularly and takes live calls, where anyone could call in and ask him about it live on the air at any time.

Boyles isn't the least bit scared of R attorneys, nor could he be in any way held legally criminally nor civilly responsible for telling a story about having seen a document of possibly valid phone records 28 years ago. Hundreds of episodes on air, on the internet, him going hard about how is sure who killed her (P), listing his evidence and theories, and never mentions it?

It never happened, imho (Boyles claiming to see those phone records). Personally I think its very likely there were other calls, but I believe the Boyles claim is thoroughly debunked.

 

[Meara]

Valid points, valid questions.......will we ever have the answers we seek?

Calling the pilot is an interesting thought, although he apparently was called by JR at around 6:45 that morning. Mike was already on his way to the airport. It's kind of odd to me that during all the trauma and chaos going on at that time that JR would have the presence of mind to call the pilot, presumably to say the flight needed to be cancelled.

It could be odd. Or not.

If JR was covering up the murder, then I think he would have been hyper-aware of the looming 7:00 AM deadline and formed a mental outline of the plan -- 911 by 6:00, Mike by 6:45, and so on. No point in going off-script after he'd been up half the night staging a crime scene. Officers present might have noticed he seemed a little too diligent.

If he wasn't covering up, remembering to call could have a simple explanation (which, weirdly, would apply to some extent, even if he was). In the midst of chaos and extreme stress, small tasks can stand out like islands of normalcy, and a person will gravitate to them for stability and comfort, a sense of control. They may offer an outlet for the fight-or-flight instinct (dreadful pun not intended), or distract from anxiety or feeling helpless, especially when waiting is involved. When you can't do anything about the big stuff, you do the small stuff -- straighten the pillows....check the mail....cancel the trip....

So many equivocal moments in this case.

 

[Michael Vail]

if there were calls much earlier (like an hour or more) than the alleged wake-up time and the 911 call that would be incredibly sus whoever it's to

i've entertained the possibility (on the assumption JR was not involved in the murder or coverup, at least not yet as of 12/26) that he called someone who can help with hostage negotations, either before the 911 call or at least before the body was discovered. an actual negotiator, or a point of contact who could help him get one, etc. it seems likely he would have had some training or information on what to do in such a situation, given his job. if he was out of the loop and took the ransom note at face value, that would make sense.

also (or maybe overlapping) a possibility he called someone at LM and/or the pentagon, as required by a company policy or even a law. i assume he had a clearance for his job, and i am guessing he had access to sensitive stuff. aiui, if you're in that kind of position, the government wants to know when someone has leverage over you. debts, assets, side jobs, infidelity, embarassing secrets... anything like that would concern me if i were responsible for maintaining secrecy.

the possibility never occurred to me that the ransom note, by purporting to be from someone who took JBR hostage, triggered corporate and/or legal requirements and procedures, and it opens up a whole bunch of new theories i had never thought of, and i feel like john nash scribbling red circles on maps and connecting them with pieces of string. was the note written with that goal in mind? did it happen accidentally (e.g., if PR wrote the note and JR wasn't involved)? but does it somehow explain the parents never pointing the finger at each other? ... this is so potentially disruptive to my prevailing theories on the case that i almost wish it hadn't been pointed out to me, lol.

The killer is Gary Oliva.

 

[Lebowski]

cool. how did Oliva know the amount of JR's Christmas bonus?

 

[Meara]

The killer is Gary Oliva.

What's your theory of how he gained entry to the house and moved about without waking anyone?