If you agree or disagree with the verdict, let us know why

[annalia]

My post was in reference to this post:

yes but, kelian36's post was regarding GA or CA calling 911 if Caylee had gotten into the pool accidently. Your reply then went to it being suspicious about George not calling 911 when they found the car. So my question was referring to that.

 

[beccalecca1]

As far as Caylee's death goes though, did George have a job at the time in question? Did Casey?

Is George having a sketchy job history evidence?

The time of death (I'm not sure what the time in question is, the statement was a generality), GA did apparently have a job. Casey did not.

GA's sketchy job history is more evidence of his lying to accommodate CA. Kind of like Casey's lies to accommodate her parents.

 

[manatee]

I don't think they dropped the ball as much as they were probably in shock at what they were smelling, especially since the towyard guy and George had smelled that particular smell before. I think they didn't want to believe what they were smelling and were hoping they were wrong. It's human nature to not want to believe the worst just because you smell something that should tell you the worst has happened. George, Cindy, and Lee didn't want to believe Caylee was dead and that Casey had something to do with it. The towyard guy probably didn't want to believe he was smelling a dead body. And since there was no dead body in the trunk to confirm suspicions, they all wrote it off at it first, and probably prayed they were wrong. Again, that's human nature. Not everyone immediately becomes civic minded and does the right thing right away. Most people don't want to be involved with something like a dead body. It's like that case where that woman got assaulted and killed in an apartment complex, and most people just ignored it and did not call the police. People don't want to get involved when it's something horrible, and especially if it's something involving death. I don't blame the towyard guy or anyone else who smelled that trunk that didn't immediately call the police. I'm not sure I would immediately do it if I smelled something death, knew it was death I was smelling (I've never smelled death, thank God, and I hope I never do), but didn't have a body to confirm it was death. Cindy finally calling police was a brave thing she did. She couldn't ignore that smell and Caylee being missing anymore.

I'm not saying they had the right reaction, btw. I'm just saying they had a very human reaction to it.

I totally agree with your post! I would add that IT WAS THE CAR SMELL that prompted the events of the day until CA FOUND FCA by finding Amy's info. CA like always told GA that she would take care of it and to please go to work...GA apparently since they issues they had in their marriage has been whipped by CA (MOO). CA did find FCA THAT SAME DAY! So yes, once the car and the smell was found by the Anthony's they DID do something about it! Why was this not stressed or understood by this jury. THE CAR WAS THE CATALYST! IT WAS THE DECOMP SMELL THAT SET OFF THE EVENTS. This is why FCA WAS found by CA! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

 

[Baznme]

I don't have quotes, it's just MO.

But, I have to say they were pretty confident in their case to go for murder 1, manslaughter, or aggravated child abuse; but leave out a lot of charges that she could've been charged with.

On this part of your post, ITA. They were confident their case would result in murder 1, manslaughter or aggravated child abuse. If I had been in their position, with the evidence I felt I had, I would have been confident also. Obviously 77% of the population that have followed the case thought so too, so we can't fault them for that.

This trial is one for the books. The verdict IMO was not the result of good lawyering on the part of the defense, it was this evidence, in this day and age, unproven and untried, this jury that did not have a thorough understanding of what their job was and this "client" that had found it prudent to lie, then take Orange County allllllll the way to the end of the hallway, then not testify on her own behalf. Talk about cost to the taxpayers! GA nor LA molested this brat. She's destroyed her own family trying to prove another "lie".

 

[Aedrys]

I don't have quotes, it's just MO.

But, I have to say they were pretty confident in their case to go for murder 1, manslaughter, or aggravated child abuse; but leave out a lot of charges that she could've been charged with.

I'm thinking if I was a DA and saw a child's skull covered in duct tape after the remains were found tossed into a swamp, I'd probably go for the heavier charges myself. I think they knew they were looking at pure evil that happened that child. God only knows what would have happened had Caylee been found before she was decomposed. I think Casey would be on death row right now. She's lucky Caylee wasn't found until she was a skeleton, and even then the evil of what happened to Caylee was still evident. I do think more charges should have been there, but I don't blame them for the charges they put forward either.

 

[annalia]

I totally agree with your post! I would add that IT WAS THE CAR SMELL that prompted the events of the day until CA FOUND FCA by finding Amy's info. CA like always told GA that she would take care of it and to please go to work...GA apparently since they issues they had in their marriage has been whipped by CA (MOO). CA did find FCA THAT SAME DAY! So yes, once the car and the smell was found by the Anthony's they DID do something about it! Why was this not stressed or understood by this jury. THE CAR WAS THE CATALYST! IT WAS THE DECOMP SMELL THAT SET OFF THE EVENTS. This is why FCA WAS found by CA! :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

Well said, obviously CA took control after they found the car. It would make logical sense that if George had to go to work and went to work and seeing that it was CA that did the calling and looking for casey, that it was by design to do it that way. I would also guess that the last thing they wanted at that stage was for george to miss work and risk losing another job.

Also, Caylee wasn't actually missing at that point either as far as the Anthony's knew, she was with her mother who had been feeding them lie after lie about all of the things they were doing together.
JMHO

 

[beccalecca1]

Maybe GA did not tell this story on the stand as he did not want CA to face obstruction of justice charges. I don't put much stock in not calling the police back after the gas cans were found. IMO, the microscopic focus of the gas cans means nothing. I challenge you or anyone else to go back 3 years and think about where you were or what you did at a certain time. I'd be willing to bet your memory would be razor sharp on some things and you wouldn't remember/believe other things even if someone else told you they were true.

And let's talk about waste ...

FCA wasted thousands of taxpayer and private $$$ on searching for a girl when she knew exactly where she was ... she wasted OCSO investigator time lying about the Sawgrass Apartments, Universal Studios, Jeff Hopkins, Zanny, etc. Talk about someone with no conscience ... I live in Orlando and spent a whole day searching J. Blanchard Park, going in and out of deeply wooded areas, watching out for snakes, getting my feet soaked, and dealing with bug bites . Anyone of the searchers could have been bitten by a rattler/water occasin/coral snake and either died or been very sick.

Talk about no conscience and no regards for others ... but now as I look back it doesn't surprise me. All of us who assisted in the search for Caylee were treated just as Caylee was .... trash.

I'm not sure why GA would believe that CA would be charged with obstruction of justice if she simply told him not to call 911 that day because she was going to handle it. I believe that's reaching.

And, don't get me wrong, I truly TRULY hope TES does sue Casey, along with Kid Finders, etc. Those services wasted a lot of time and resources to search for a child who was known to be dead, but didn't find that out until the beginning of trial. That is a complete slap in the face to those organizations. It was also disgusting on her part.

 

[beccalecca1]

yes but, kelian36's post was regarding GA or CA calling 911 if Caylee had gotten into the pool accidently. Your reply then went to it being suspicious about George not calling 911 when they found the car. So my question was referring to that.

I was specifically replying to how Ex-LE GA would call 911. Well, he didn't.

 

[Baznme]

The time of death (I'm not sure what the time in question is, the statement was a generality), GA did apparently have a job. Casey did not.

GA's sketchy job history is more evidence of his lying to accommodate CA. Kind of like Casey's lies to accommodate her parents.

BBM - I'm not sure what this means. Either you work and bring in a paycheck or you don't. If you're lying, there's no paycheck......so I'm not getting that part of your post.

 

[beccalecca1]

I'm thinking if I was a DA and saw a child's skull covered in duct tape after the remains were found tossed into a swamp, I'd probably go for the heavier charges myself. I think they knew they were looking at pure evil that happened that child. God only knows what would have happened had Caylee been found before she was decomposed. I think Casey would be on death row right now. She's lucky Caylee wasn't found until she was a skeleton, and even then the evil of what happened to Caylee was still evident. I do think more charges should have been there, but I don't blame them for the charges they put forward either.

There isn't a limit on what you can charge though, so why not just play it safe and include all the charges you can get out of it?

 

[annalia]

I was specifically replying to how Ex-LE GA would call 911. Well, he didn't.

Did someone in the Anthony family call 911 and report the car abandoned and smelling like death?

 

[Aedrys]

There isn't a limit on what you can charge though, so why not just play it safe and include all the charges you can get out of it?

Ironically, I think they didn't want to confuse the jury with too many charges to choose from. I do think they should have had more charges because maybe the jury would have picked something from it. I think it's one of those d'oh moments the SA wishes they could go back and change, unfortunately.

 

[manatee]

I was specifically replying to how Ex-LE GA would call 911. Well, he didn't.

Based on what I have observed of the relationship dynamics between CA & GA, at this point in their relationship CA had him completely under her control. I don't know if what trying to gain back her approval but it is pretty obvious that CA was calling all the shots in that family. AGAIN 911 was called that day do the CAR and the DECOMP smell.

 

[beccalecca1]

BBM - I'm not sure what this means. Either you work and bring in a paycheck or you don't. If you're lying, there's no paycheck......so I'm not getting that part of your post.

I don't believe he was always truthful to CA when it came to working. I do believe that he had some sort of involvement with KH and he did borrow money from her to pretend he was working to CA. And, I do believe that part of the reason they were going to split up was because of all the covering up GA did, all the money he blew away, and he wasn't contributing to the household.

According to SP (CA's mother), they would've been divorced but CA found out she would have to sign over half the house that was in her name and pay GA alimony. What kind of slap in the face is that?? If she would have to pay him alimony, he clearly wasn't bringing home much of a paycheck, if any.

 

[beccalecca1]

Did someone in the Anthony family call 911 and report the car abandoned and smelling like death?

Yes, but this still isn't in reference to my post to another post regarding if GA would call 911 because he was ex-LE. He didn't call 911 when it came to smelling a dead body, so I could easily presume he wouldn't call 911 if he found Caylee's lifeless body and knew there was no bringing her back.

 

[Smelly Squirrel]

The liner and pictures of the liner were presented. However, the picture posted on here was enhanced by ws member. iirc.

Yes, the images shown there were made from a composite of discovery photos and the highlighted one was enhanced, but here is an image released in discovery evidence:

And that's just a scan or photocopy, so the original would be clearer. And there is no reason CSI couldn't have made their own composites. We do know from FBI emails that they saw the child image in the photos, and that they requested all original negatives or digital files.

 

[kelian36]

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GA didn't call 911 at the towyard when he found the car with a death smell and didn't call 911 once he got home after driving the car that smelled like death. Ex-LE didn't feel it's necessary to call LE unless his gas cans were stolen.

Nono, you said the verdict is correct.
You theorized there was a drowning.
You opined there was no body in the car. According to your theory, no scent.

For whatever reason your post seem intent on slamming George.

 

[kelian36]

BBM - Think about it.....neither did the tow yard attendant (standing AT the car with GA as he opened the trunk), neither did CA (after GA got the car home and told him to go to work) and neither did Lee (after CA got Casey home).........so I don't see your point. Seems to me, this is not exclusive to GA, but several people that dropped the ball.

Right, there is no point other than to slam George like baez slammed George.

 

[Silkprint]

LOL Sure blame George
Why didn't she blame George instead of sitting in jail for almost 3 years
No way princess would have given up her man TonE unless she had to
There has never been any evidence of George doing anything
but there has been evidence of Casey LYING ! over and over and over

 

[Silkprint]

I am not sold any more totally on premeditation
but I also don't believe Cayless death was an accident .
And I do believe the last person Caylee ever saw was her mom