Found Deceased IL - Andrew Freund, 5, Crystal Lake, 17 April 2019 *Arrests* - #3

[Knox]

I hadn't seen this before, link to police reports prior to AJ being reported missing.
https://www.crystallake.org/home/showdocument?id=17706

 

[Herat]

I hadn't seen this before, link to police reports prior to AJ being reported missing.
https://www.crystallake.org/home/showdocument?id=17706

Deleted by me. This is the current missing child report, not from 2018 as I had originally mis-read it.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

April 29, 2019

• COURT - 9:00 am PRELIMINARY HEARING (JC and AF)

Preliminary Hearing

The prosecutor must show that enough evidence exists to charge the defendant. Preliminary hearings are not always required, and the defendant can choose to waive it.

The preliminary hearing is like a mini-trial. The prosecution will call witnesses and introduce evidence, and the defense can cross-examine witnesses. However, the defense cannot object to using certain evidence, and in fact, evidence is allowed to be presented at a preliminary hearing that could not be shown to a jury at trial.

If the judge concludes there is probable cause to believe the crime was committed by the defendant, a trial will soon be scheduled. However, if the judge does not believe the evidence establishes probable cause that the defendant committed the offence, he will dismiss the charges.

 

[Trudie]

Respectfully snipped by me for space

If these two monsters were so out of their minds on drugs that they left video of abuse on the phone, they are crazy. Proof that children had no business being in their care.
They have incriminated themselves!

How much more sickening could this be? Oh the horrors the little brother has seen and heard. The pain, hurt, and misery that AJ lived!

Is there any reason for this to go to trial? There is no defense, imo.

 

[girlhasnoname]

I totally agree. Everyone is guilty

DCPS, LE, Hospitals, Cities, State, and Federal government's are structured with Check and Balance systems. No one agency can watch these parents 24/7, it takes a village.

Every Dept and government agency failed. They all had supervisors, training in child abuse and how to document.
The neighbors, who were the eyes and ears failed. Yes, it is just plain human decency to report the horrific thing they are now telling the media.

And it will happen again tomorrow and the next day and the next ......

Systems fail
We return kids to drug abusive parents

The drug users have the upper hand. They get free needles, free Narcan, SSI each month, free rehab, free medical care. Millions in long term Methadone and Suboxone, inpatient, outpatient care, food stamps, free housing, all the counseling money can buy.

They cost the federal, state and local governments millions each years, with few positives outcomes.

AND WE LET THEM KEEP THEIR KIDS, LEGALLY.

JMO. I'm ready for change and it starts will taking the above resources and incarcerating these folks, when they break the law. The people should NOT be an exception to society. If you or I break the law we are required to pay files or serve jail time. Should I speak up and say, hey I'm addicted I'm the exception, I'm special, feel sorry for me its hard to get clean, I need help, yes to the tune of 40 or 50 thousand dollars per person. per year and I'm still not going to get over my addiction, I just can't it's to hard. Then we need to protect society from their destruction, murder, stealing, physical and mental abuse and most of all the tax dollars, that could be used for schools, college scholarships...you know stuff that makes the world a better place.

This is what we have become as a county and as society. Few recover, they don't have to, life has more free stuff if they don't.

I believe in helping everyone, but where do we draw the line. One year, five, 10...,when they steal for the 10th time, beat the kids for the 5th time, NO we only stop when they murder someone, and sometimes not then. We can not supervise these folks 24/7 with just DCPS and most require 24/7 supervision, they kill in the blink of an eye.

I'm just sick at the number of kids dying yearly and the government support allowing.

JMO

I struggle with everything you are saying here as well. I agree that addicts and abusers need to be held to the same standards as the rest of us. Someone else posted that if these child abusers inflicted these injuries on grown adults or children unrelated to them they'd be serving time for assault. How pitiful is it that they are more protected for harming their own children????

Maybe the 3 strikes rule should apply:

First time, there's a problem let's identify it and get you the tools and help for a chance at rehabilitation.

Second time, what were the circumstances surrounding relapse/incident? Suspend any state/federal assistance pending a significant probationary period.

Third time, go to jail to serve a real sentence equal to the action and suspend any future assistance eligibility.

IDK, it's something that bothers me greatly. I'm angry, sad, shocked and disgusted, but something has got to change I agree.

 

[MsFacetious]

These are posts that JC shared on her Facebook Wall in March and April ‘19.

(These were posted by a FB friend of hers).
Please delete if not allowed.

The April 12/13 posts may very well be why AJ died when he did. She had clearly broken up with D from the April 9 post. So I wonder what the 12/13 one was about?

I think we may find out it was the trigger for the final beating.... perhaps someone decided to fight for custody of all 3 kids?

Thanks for that article. The drug mechanism is very clearly explained and is one of the best I've ever read. The effects of the two together are very interesting and I hadn't thought of them that way.

This certainly could explain the overt and unanticipated aggression, as AJ appears to have received from his parent(s).

This could also have contributed. I'm thinking that this may have been the perfect storm where it all lined up at the worst time and AJ died because of it. Where normally she stopped before she went too far but this time she lost control completely.

Well she’s a monster non human who will be going into labor will that make a difference? Stupid law handcuffing a mom doesn’t hurt the baby.

Actually it certainly can hurt the baby. Many times they will have you move around during labor if baby's heart rate drops.

Your body will often do what it needs to do, including moving around if baby isn't in an optimal position, cord prolapse, etc.

Even horrible women who shouldn't have children have those natural reactions during labor and birth.

I am perfectly fine with her not being handcuffed during labor. Stick a guard outside her door and if it's really a concern stick a tether on her.

Just don't make a deal with her. I can't deal with another Caylee/Bella where they get off basically free.

 

[Trudie]

April 29, 2019

• COURT - 9:00 am PRELIMINARY HEARING (JC and AF)

Preliminary Hearing

The prosecutor must show that enough evidence exists to charge the defendant. Preliminary hearings are not always required, and the defendant can choose to waive it.

The preliminary hearing is like a mini-trial. The prosecution will call witnesses and introduce evidence, and the defense can cross-examine witnesses. However, the defense cannot object to using certain evidence, and in fact, evidence is allowed to be presented at a preliminary hearing that could not be shown to a jury at trial.

If the judge concludes there is probable cause to believe the crime was committed by the defendant, a trial will soon be scheduled. However, if the judge does not believe the evidence establishes probable cause that the defendant committed the offence, he will dismiss the charges.

Bet they waive.
If this goes forward to trial, let me guess, a pharmaceutical company is to blame.......

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Bet they waive.

With what we know it would be pretty hard to contest probable cause.
jmo

 

[Tippy Lynn]

Bet they waive.
If this goes forward to trial, let me guess, a pharmaceutical company is to blame.......

They don't have a leg to stand on.

 

[Shadowtrix]

Bet they waive.
If this goes forward to trial, let me guess, a pharmaceutical company is to blame.......

Either that or "mom" and "dad" will partake in a courtroom charade of the back and forth blame game/bringing up domestic abuse against one another to try and make themselves the victims.

 

[Trudie]

They don't have a leg to stand on.

One might opt for prelim’, the other waiving.
No chance for dismissal, for sure.
I guess it might go to trial unless one ‘fesses up, admitting to the murder. But, the ME stated COD as multiple blows to the head. Multiple blows could be blows over time or repeated blows at one time, right? They both need LWOP, imo. I’m still baffled by AJ’s distorted head.
Wish we had a TBI nurse on here. I did show the haircut photos to an RN friend, she screamed “what did they do to his head.”

 

[Trudie]

Either that or "mom" and "dad" will partake in a courtroom charade of the back and forth blame game/bringing up domestic abuse against one another to try and make themselves the victims.

The male figure probably worked on his case all weekend.
I wish we knew the day AJ died. It seems up in the air, I guess LE used 04-15.
I also wonder if his condition worsened hour by hour after his March beating, until he was finally comatose. I understand the COD but we don’t know the ME opinion on age of the injury.
Cell ph data led LE to AJ, but unlikely the phones have info about the actual date/time of death. Moo

 

[osu]

Styf: More details are coming, they are likely horrendous
12:22am

As time moves forward, more details will come to light on the specifics of what happened to AJ Freund in his Crystal Lake home both before and after the days following Easter Sunday.

And as they come, they likely will continue to enrage.

They will be graphic, they will likely become piecemeal, and plenty of the community will reach a boiling point over point on them.

We feel it is our duty to report those details as they arrive. And, while it would be best if all the details came at one time to provide a clear picture and give readers a choice on what they are willing to read, that is not reality.

Which will lead to tough decisions on how and where to publish that information.

To be clear, I strongly believe the details need to be published. The public should know what happened at that home on Dole Avenue, both last week and in the years that led to it.

The only way to effectively and knowledgeably create better outcomes in the future, a full examination of the past needs to occur.

But also understand that we are human, we are reporting details for a reason and that those details are also very difficult for us to digest.

~snip


More at link:

Styf: More details are coming, they are likely horrendous | Northwest Herald

 

[Thora_Jay]

How would a child who was not even in school yet, be prescribed adderal? How would they treat such a young child for ADHD? And why?

Isn't adrenal for helping someone get their work done and their tasks done, without being confused and distracted? I am not sure why a young child , who was not yet in school, would need addrral.

Katydid, the medication did not belong to A.J. it belonged to her.

A couple of members assumed that it was for A.J. and I posted a few times that the medication was in HER name.

 

[Trudie]

This makes me so sad and mad. Why was she wearing a bright pink hat before she was arrested? It was like she wanted to be the center of attention. Why did the parents still have the child if he was born with drugs in his system ?

The murdering fashionista.
Great question, why did they get custody of him when it seems he was thriving with his foster/cousin.

 

[katydid23]

Katydid, the medication did not belong to A.J. it belonged to her.

A couple of members assumed that it was for A.J. and I posted a few times that the medication was in HER name.

Right. Thank You.

That makes much more sense. And it would help explain her agitated, aggressive behaviour as well.

 

[katydid23]

This case is looking much like little sweet Lucas. His cruel stepmom battered him, left him home alone, and he eventually died, and she buried him in a ditch.

 

[Trudie]

Styf: More details are coming, they are likely horrendous
12:22am

As time moves forward, more details will come to light on the specifics of what happened to AJ Freund in his Crystal Lake home both before and after the days following Easter Sunday.

And as they come, they likely will continue to enrage.

They will be graphic, they will likely become piecemeal, and plenty of the community will reach a boiling point over point on them.

We feel it is our duty to report those details as they arrive. And, while it would be best if all the details came at one time to provide a clear picture and give readers a choice on what they are willing to read, that is not reality.

Which will lead to tough decisions on how and where to publish that information.

To be clear, I strongly believe the details need to be published. The public should know what happened at that home on Dole Avenue, both last week and in the years that led to it.

The only way to effectively and knowledgeably create better outcomes in the future, a full examination of the past needs to occur.

But also understand that we are human, we are reporting details for a reason and that those details are also very difficult for us to digest.

~snip


More at link:

Styf: More details are coming, they are likely horrendous | Northwest Herald

Good! Especially for the state of Illinois.
Everyone is already appalled, once all the facts are public maybe things will change.

 

[Trudie]

Katydid, the medication did not belong to A.J. it belonged to her.

A couple of members assumed that it was for A.J. and I posted a few times that the medication was in HER name.

@Thora_Jay Do you have a list/link of meds prescribed to her? From research, I can’t see any competent doctor writing both Add/Sub to any person, for any reason.
Tysm

 

[katydid23]

@Thora_Jay Do you have a list/link of meds prescribed to her? From research, I can’t see any competent doctor writing both Add/Sub to any person, for any reason.
Tysm

When my kids were prescribed medications, it was still in their names. Even though I was the adult that picked them up and paid for them, the prescriptions were in their names, even when they were toddlers.