GUILTY IL - Chicago, Female body in cardboard box, Jan'07 - Marlaina Reed

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Maybe someone else will see something different, but to me, the jawline between the bust and the chin shapes are very different. Also, Amy was listed at 5'0" even and 17 when she went missing. I kind of ruled this out thinking it's possible a younger person may have grown a few inches but 4" in a year between 17 and 18 for a female? I'm not familiar with female growth patterns or an average age for which females reach adult ht. I only grew 4" between the time I was 10 and my final adult ht.
 
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I'm pretty sure there was a mention of her ears having been pierced at one time, even though she wasn't wearing any jewelry. I'll go double-check.


TY Clemy, I would assume it would be unusual in this day and age for a younger woman to not have pierced ears. TY also for the other additional info you have posted.
 
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Other info found, or refreshers:

--Because Jane was killed 3-4 days before her alley discovery, cops are not certain about her eye color.

--She had previously worn braces, however they were not removed by an orthodontist. She also had a chip on one of her front right teeth.

--cheek bones are high and forward

--eyebrows are high and full

--ears have a "meaty" lobe

--Both ears were pierced once.
Thanks Dee for bringing us some links. And thanks Cubby for comparing the pictures and sharing your observations.
 
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I wish there was more information for us to go by. Were there not any fingerprints on the keyboard box or the wires used to hold the box together? What about the bindings on her hands? Or the plastic bag she was wrapped in???

There has to be other evidence! There just has to be more to Jane's story!!!
 
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Autopsy: Bound 'Jane Doe' Was Murdered

Body Found In Northwest Side Alley

POSTED: 6:17 am CST January 22, 2007
UPDATED: 10:32 am CST January 23, 2007

CHICAGO -- An autopsy on Monday determined a woman found wrapped with cords inside a box in a Northwest Side alley was murdered.The woman, who remained unidentified as of Monday afternoon, was asphyxiated and suffered multiple blunt injuries to her face, a Cook County Medical Examiner’s office spokesman said of the autopsy results. Her death was ruled a homicide, he said.


More at link: http://www.nbc5.com/newsarchive/10811789/detail.html
 
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Artist gives slain 'Jane Doe' a face

N.W. SIDE | Cops hope it helps ID mystery victim


December 23, 2007
BY SHAMUS TOOMEY Staff Reporter/[email protected]
In their hunt for the name of a young woman found slain in a Northwest Side alley earlier this year, Chicago Police detectives now have a face.
A renowned forensic artist has finished a clay facial reconstruction of the woman in hopes someone will recognize her and give investigators a key piece of information in finding her killer.

More at link: http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/710427,CST-NWS-jane23.article
 
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From Samanthas info at above link:


Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance

Missing Since: November 5, 2006 from Clinton, South Carolina
Classification: Missing
Date Of Birth: July 13, 1984
Age: 22
Height: 5'3"-5'4"
Weight: 110-119 lbs
Hair Color: Blonde/brown/red
Eye Color: Hazel/Green
Race: White
Gender: Female
Distinguishing Characteristics: Hair is naturally Blonde,
but dyed Red, long hair down to her mid back.
Medical Conditions: Takes medication for asthma and suicidal
thoughts but may not be taking it. She may be suicidal.


Maybe a long shot, but look at the photos on Samantha's page compared to these two pics of the Chicago Jane doe from AWM's site.
If the links don't work they are the side profile and the pic lightened up for lighter eyes.

http://www.amw.com/popupimage_view.cfm?id=16080

http://www.amw.com/popupimage_view.cfm?id=16075

South Carolina isn't close to Chicago but if this girl was bipolar I and off her medication she could have had manic episodes and possibly found herself in Chicago. The medication could also explain the little bit of wt. difference. Some medications for depression, bipolar etc. have a wt. loss or wt. gain effect.

I wonder what other information exists about Samantha.
 
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A few more pics for the possible match suggested by Angel4Alpha. Including smiles with her teeth and braces. Hard to tell if her front top teeth compare to what's posted at AWM. http://www.amw.com/fugitives/evidence_clues.cfm?id=49245

http://www.clintonpublicsafety.org/samanthasmith.html

Thoughts?

Did anyone report this lead?

I originally dismissed the possibility because of eye color, but didn't see the revised sketch with lighter eyes or the possibility that her eyes were not even brown to begin with!!! This is an excellent possibility!!!

Also, did anyone notice how "meaty" Jane Doe's ears are? In all of the sketches and in the bust, the inner part of the ear kind of "jut out" from the middle of the ear. This should be a MAJOR clue as we look through missing photos. I wish Samantha Smith's ears were shown a little more in her photos. Her nose and jawline are incredibly similar!

Great work guys!
 
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Also about Samantha.. It says that her and her boyfriend had a fight at church over religion and later that day She walked off and he drove the other way he says.
 
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Soonerbabie - Thanks for the links.

Yes, I did see and read those yesterday, along with whatever has been posted about Samantha at projectjason and porchlight. I wish some of the photo's of Samantha's teeth were more clear. Even without the braces Chicago doe's teeth clearly show one of the upper front teeth slightly sitting over the other.

I have also wondered if the perp tore off the braces not knowing the glue would remain to keep her id hidden. Whoever did this took the time to make sure that cascio box was well wrapped.

As far as I know this match has not been reported. I was waiting to see what others thought and what the person suggesting the match wants to do, don't want to steal any thunder so to speak.

My only question is why would someone from a warmer climate make there way to a colder climate in winter. Plus, it's an 11.5 hour drive from Clinton SC to Chicago IL according to google maps.

However, I still think the potential match should be reported.
 
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I can't bring myself to look at it. They said it was so bad that they had a hard time creating the original police sketch of her... :(


I looked at it, but it was tough. I'm glad the disclosure exists.
 
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Has anyone been able to verify if Samantha Renee Smith still had her braces on when she went missing?
 
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One of her pictures that show her teeth. I looks like there could be something silver on her left tooth. Just like on the Jane Does. So I definately want to know about Samanthas teeth. Could someone ask over at the other board. The lips dont match up. But Im thinking maybe somehow Jane Does lips could have been bigger than they were, when she was alive. Has anyone ever heard of that? The hair color and looking at the morgue photo of Jane Does hair.. well, it eerily similar to her hair in a couple pictures. I dont think this shouldnt go over looked.

As far as where she was found.. That is strange and reason to believe maybe its not her. But stranger things have definately happened. Find out about her teeth and you should be able to mark her on or off the list.
 
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I just think that if it can be found out that Samantha had her braces removed awhile before she went missing by an orthodontist it could rule her in or out as being Chicago doe.

One of her pictures that show her teeth. I looks like there could be something silver on her left tooth. Just like on the Jane Does. So I definately want to know about Samanthas teeth. Could someone ask over at the other board. The lips dont match up. But Im thinking maybe somehow Jane Does lips could have been bigger than they were, when she was alive. Has anyone ever heard of that? The hair color and looking at the morgue photo of Jane Does hair.. well, it eerily similar to her hair in a couple pictures. I dont think this shouldnt go over looked.

As far as where she was found.. That is strange and reason to believe maybe its not her. But stranger things have definately happened. Find out about her teeth and you should be able to mark her on or off the list.
 
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Oh wow, I remember seeing Samantha Renee Smith on nampn when I was first looking for matches, but then I was going by the sketch and there was no similarity whatsoever.
I'll try to get in touch with the original poster of the link to Samantha.
 
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Has anyone been able to verify if Samantha Renee Smith still had her braces on when she went missing?

I think so, but we should double check. I am not a CTV forum member. Is anyone here? If not, I will join and contact the poster who is in contact with Samantha's mother to find out.

Though, from what was posted it may not be verifiable unless someone can reach Samantha's sister. It's my understanding Samantha was living with her bf and her mother had not seen her in some time before she went missing.

Maybe contact the clinton detective to inquire?

I'm not great on the phone so I prefer someone else do that.
 

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