Identified! IL - Chicago, UP68274, skeletal, found in backyard, Dream catcher necklace, 16 Mar 2020 - Cheyann Klus

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I'm sure this article from the Chicago Tribune OCT 29 1974 is unrelated but this building had a horrible event.

How can we be sure this is not related?
UID
Estimated Year of Death--
Estimated PMI--
They don't even know the race nor if this was woman or a man.......

Maybe it was Ms. Wals's new significant other who tried to protect her but lost his/her life.....or even the perpetrator.....
 
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I sure wish we knew more about the skeleton and the murder of Vera, Adrian and Tate :(
 
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Maybe the bones are fragments, with no usable DNA? There are missing people and children in that zip code, would they all be investigated for a possible match to these remains? :(
 
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Maybe the bones are fragments, with no usable DNA? There are missing people and children in that zip code, would they all be investigated for a possible match to these remains? :(
I don't think Chicago PD quite sees unidentified people as much of a priority, unfortunately.
 
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The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)
This is right near where Earneisha Shields went missing last year.
(As for the car on the side of the house, a decent amount of people living in downtown Chicago don't have driveways and there's not much street space to park, so cars end up on the lawn.)

Earneisha Shields is no longer in Namus. Nor is she in NCMEC anymore. poster-results
I couldn't find any updates of her being found safe, dead.... She turned 18 this year, (DOB Feb 8, 2004) but I don't believe that's a reason to not being listed as missing anymore. I hope she is ok.
 
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No updated information for this UID in Namus. The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

This is from the Cook County Medical Examiner


ME2020-0142403/16/20206832 S Dorchester, Chicago IL 60637Found in BackyardTattoo: Dream catcher necklace

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Now it's a tattoo? Confusing info there. I wish there was more info about the possible age of the skeletal remains.
 
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Now it's a tattoo? Confusing info there. I wish there was more info about the possible age of the skeletal remains.

NAMUS includes an image of the dream catcher pendant -- skeleton & tattoo don't mesh well for me....

Upthread, one of us mused that perhaps this LE agency has multiple priorities ahead of matching remains to missing people imho.

Yeah, that's certainly an option.

jmho ymmv lrr
 
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The Dreamcatcher in general is a fascinating object that over the last 60 years has made a journey from starting out as a symbol the nation's agreed upon to raise native American profile and has made the journey all the way to being so popular with non-natives as to generally be considered cultural appropriation.

I won't really comment my opinion on that but as a result of this fluctuation over the decades I can say with a pretty high degree of certainty that this sort of cheap little junky wire Dreamcatcher was bought in the 90s. It's not impossible that it is newer than that but it's almost certainly not from the 60s or 70s. Dreamcatchers from that era were larger art pieces made from traditional materials. I tried to find an actual vintage pictures of any real hippies wearing one and couldn't find any.
 
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It's probably nothing (distance between found and missing seems off and also the story) but Terry Lynn Terzak is wearing a dream catcher (like) necklace in one of her pictures.

Terry Lynn Tersak – The Charley Project

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ETA

On second thought: IMO it looks different from the one found?
 
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Ok, I stumbled on to this. It's about "our" John Doe.

Medical Examiner - Unidentified Persons Click on view top 100.

Don't get confused by the weird Jason format. For this case I think this is the relevant information belonging to this UID.

Skeletal remains
- Clothing: Discolored sweatshirt in poor condition. Unknown size and brand.
- IL State ID found near w/info: John T Wynn DOB: 7-4-1943,
- 6039 S. Winchester Chicago, IL 60636

After that there are lines about a different UID, but then the Tattoo, dreamcatcher necklace turns up.

My guess it this ID was either stolen or not related to this John Doe and LE wasn't able to verify it, but it's interesting to check it out. If Mr. Wynn is still around and not this UID he would be approx. 79 years today.
 
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Ok, I stumbled on to this. It's about "our" John Doe.

Medical Examiner - Unidentified Persons Click on view top 100.

Don't get confused by the weird Jason format. For this case I think this is the relevant information belonging to this UID.

Skeletal remains
- Clothing: Discolored sweatshirt in poor condition. Unknown size and brand.
- IL State ID found near w/info: John T Wynn DOB: 7-4-1943,
- 6039 S. Winchester Chicago, IL 60636

After that there are lines about a different UID, but then the Tattoo, dreamcatcher necklace turns up.

My guess it this ID was either stolen or not related to this John Doe and LE wasn't able to verify it, but it's interesting to check it out. If Mr. Wynn is still around and not this UID he would be approx. 79 years today.
This info is for a different case: ME2022-01437

You can see the data here:

It brings up this case in NamUs:
 
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This info is for a different case: ME2022-01437

You can see the data here:

It brings up this case in NamUs:
Totally my bad. On hindsight I mixed up the addresses where the does were found while reading. Winchester Avenue vs. Dorchester Avenue, both numbers starting with a 6. Sorry for the confusion.
 
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The NamUs page for this Doe has been removed.
 
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The NamUs page for this Doe has been removed.
Thank you for the notification. If this means this person is identified I'm "happy".
 
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