IL - Child, 9, charged in fire deaths of 5 people, Goodfield, 6 Apr 2019

[jjenny]

How do we know mom was the one to get anything for the children? Father supposedly quit working to spend more time with the kids because of their disabilities. He could have been the brains of that family.

 

[claudianunes]

For ADHD possibly.

Right, I was just thinking that maybe someone would push for Kyle to be diagnosed with a bunch of stuff just to get some pills. There was a time where a bunch of kids got diagnosed with ADHD where I live, and those kids didn't have it.

 

[cherrymeg]

Kyle gives three star review two months ago.
Google Maps

If you click on his profile there is a list of places he has been. This is the kind of stuff predators look for.

 

[oceanstarryeyes]

Alwood said her son did not intend to kill the victims. The boy took daily medication for bipolar disorder, schizophrenia and ADHD, according to the Chicago Tribune.

“I think they should throw him in prison,” John Wall told the Journal Star.
Mom of 9-year-old who allegedly killed five people: ‘People make mistakes’

That type of medication has suicide warnings for children. I can imagine that it could also cause severe behavioral problems.

 

[cherrymeg]

Right, I was just thinking that maybe someone would push for Kyle to be diagnosed with a bunch of stuff just to get some pills. There was a time where a bunch of kids got diagnosed with ADHD where I live, and those kids didn't have it.

I know people that sell their kids adderall. I have ADD I wasn't diagnosed until I was a teenager I take Ritalin. There are other medications for ADD/ADHD. I don't know if medications for other disorders are things people get high on.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

If she started reporting behaviors that matched the diagnoses she wanted when he was little a doctor would have possibly taken her at her word. If she has issues it would go to heredity. Was he enrolled in school?

If he was it likely was this one. I did read the school mentioned previously in msm. I’ll look when I can.
District140.org - Goodfield Elementary

 

[cherrymeg]

How do we know mom was the one to get anything for the children? Father supposedly quit working to spend more time with the kids because of their disabilities. He could have been the brains of that family.

She is alive. They probably both participated in getting SSI for the kids. I wouldn't go by her act on youtube or anything.

 

[Kakidoll]

Has anyone else delved deeper into HER life. Is she a victim? How far can we take this? I just found a statement she posted about someone accusing her of doing it because Jason was leaving her and taking the kids. She even names the person saying it

 

[iluvmua]

Has anyone else delved deeper into HER life. Is she a victim? How far can we take this? I just found a statement she posted about someone accusing her of doing it because Jason was leaving her and taking the kids. She even names the person saying it

Where did you find that?

 

[Kakidoll]

Where did you find that?

on her FB page

 

[iluvmua]

Did she take it down because I can't find it on her facebook page.

She is posting a bunch of humerous memes on her Facebook page.

 

[mickey2942]

If he’s prescribed these meds? Yes. Agree. Strongly. Taken improperly >suicidal ideation. Misuse/abuse/unprescribed example: Young person is depressed. Can’t get out of bed and function. Antidepressants increase/result in suicidal thoughts. Meds give patient motivation for action. Enough to reach for gun or rope in closet. imo

Psychotropic medication for children is controversial. They call it "Black Box", because there really are not any valid empirical studies done on the efficiency or effects on the developing brain.

An interesting side note is how many children from low income families, ie, on Medicaid, are prescribed psychotropic medication.

 

[Kakidoll]

Did she take it down because I can't find it on her facebook page.

She is posting a bunch of humerous memes on her Facebook page.

August 8th

 

[LietKynes]

Has anyone else delved deeper into HER life. Is she a victim? How far can we take this? I just found a statement she posted about someone accusing her of doing it because Jason was leaving her and taking the kids. She even names the person saying it

I am not convinced that 'mom' didn't do it , or "encouraged" Kyle.
Her stories are so wacky.
MOO

 

[iamthewalrus]

I wonder how she (mom) was raised -- it could be she was never taught or never saw anything different from what she does with/for/to her family. Many skills are learned from watching and mimicking -- cooking, lawn-mowing, taking a bath, washing dishes, brushing teeth, hammering a nail, dusting, emptying the trash, vacuuming/sweeping a rug/floor, planting a garden, washing a car, feeding a baby, walking a dog, etc., etc. No excuses, but...

Could be she was raised this way, but that doesnt make it ok. Once you reproduce, you have a personal responsibility to the children to raise them. I was one of 5 kids and my mom always said we were poor but we were clean. I was blessed to have her.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

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[borndem]

Agreed.
Wonder if she's going to pop out some more children ... and those children will go on to have 'issues' ; whether or not in her own mind ?
I wonder what doctor evaluated Kyle and determined that he had all of those diagnoses , and/or more ?

bbm
You said it --
Do we know for sure that he indeed was evaluated for anything?
Do we know for sure if those diagnoses were given by a qualified professional?
Since they are medical records, they are private, and he's a minor -- HIPAA and all that -- so I guess we'll never know.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

bbm
You said it --
Do we know for sure that he indeed was evaluated for anything?
Do we know for sure if those diagnoses were given by a qualified professional?
Since they are medical records, they are private, and he's a minor -- HIPAA and all that -- so I guess we'll never know.

We won’t but Judge shall. Obligation.

 

[borndem]

I am not even sure he was diagnosed with those things to begin with. Seems a lot of diagnoses for one child.

Agreed -- I'm skeptical -- have been since the beginning about his mental ailments.

 

[borndem]

Psychotropic medication for children is controversial. They call it "Black Box", because there really are not any valid empirical studies done on the efficiency or effects on the developing brain.

An interesting side note is how many children from low income families, ie, on Medicaid, are prescribed psychotropic medication.

And what about the cost? Who would pay for these meds? Medicaid, perhaps? And I'm betting they aren't inexpensive. Who went to the pharmacy to get them? Who made sure he took them?
SMH. I'm still not convinced...