Found Deceased IL - Jelani 'JJ' Day, 25, ISU grad student, missed class, Bloomington, 23 Aug 2021 #2

[5W's]

I disagree. Having followed the case from the beginning, he'd clearly missed classes leading up to his disappearance. We can't say that he wasn't reprimanded earlier or wasn't meeting with his director to withdraw that specific week. Many unknown pieces to this puzzle have been withheld while the death investigation continues, and as it should be, until we have a cause of death. MOO

Where does it say that he missed classes? Possibly I missed that. I won't go based on statements from social media, though. I've also read from the beginning but of course its possible I missed something of what has been reported. I haven't come across anywhere that he missed classes. Of course we don't know many things about his case other than what has been reported but that doesn't mean we can't speculate given what we know. IMO a lot of things are not clear so I assume unless something definetively comes up one way or the other.

 

[5W's]

In the full context, I don't think it's talking about after the dispensary visit. The director was concerned that he hadn't answered texts, missed the meeting + class + and several days - nothing after 8/23 (the day he visited the dispensary).

As I've stated previously, it's not just the missing the meeting that is concerning, it's that he was there and ready to meet her and then abruptly left for no discernible reason.

Its possible the reference isn't regarding after the dispensary visit which was at around 9:00AM. But he did miss classes after that I have to agree with. There has to be CCTV images of what he was doing between getting something at Starbucks and the dispensary. There must also be CCTV footage of his travels after the dispensary. If the family suspects something based on all the footage of his travels then something may be questionable. The question in my mind is did LE release these images to the family? We don't know.

 

[Seattle1]

Where does it say that he missed classes? Possibly I missed that. I won't go based on statements from social media, though. I've also read from the beginning but of course its possible I missed something of what has been reported. I haven't come across anywhere that he missed classes. Of course we don't know many things about his case other than what has been reported but that doesn't mean we can't speculate given what we know. IMO a lot of things are not clear so I assume unless something definetively comes up one way or the other.

^^bbm

For OP's convenience, please find the link to WS Rules posted below.

To be clear, it's a violation of TOS to post statements from social media, and since I don't personally subscribe to social media or knowingly violate TOS, please be assured that my posts are from approved WS sources.

Second, it's not necessary for OP to agree with my posts, and like all others, is free to interpret MSM links differently than the majority. But it's also not appropriate to repeatedly insist others are wrong because they do not share OP's opinion that IMO, is often absent of the linked facts previously discussed.

Respectfully, this important case about a 25-year old student who drowned in the Illinois River is only 1.5 threads long. I believe it would be helpful if OP referenced what so many here have dedicated many hours to by posting the latest information, linked by MSM.

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[5W's]

^^bbm

For OP's convenience, please find the link to WS Rules posted below.

To be clear, it's a violation of TOS to post statements from social media, and since I don't personally subscribe to social media or knowingly violate TOS, please be assured that my posts are from approved WS sources.

Second, it's not necessary for OP to agree with my posts, and like all others, is free to interpret MSM links differently than the majority. But it's also not appropriate to repeatedly insist others are wrong because they do not share OP's opinion that IMO, is often absent of the linked facts previously discussed.

Respectfully, this important case about a 25-year old student who drowned in the Illinois River is only 1.5 threads long. I believe it would be helpful if OP referenced what so many here have dedicated many hours to by posting the latest information, linked by MSM.

Rules - Social Media - Facebook, Twitter, etc.

Of course and I have never insisted anyone is wrong either. I wouldn't do that but I believe a good debate always challenges the mind. So I always enjoy reading your posts they offer a different perspective than mine. Actually I enjoy reding everyone's posts here because they always offer a different way of thinking. And often it enlightens the mind. As for the rules its always good to be aware of them. Thank you. I have a different perspective on what happened but it doesn't mean I am correct so if that's the interpretation, its not the intention.

 

[Seattle1]

Where does it say that he missed classes? Possibly I missed that. I won't go based on statements from social media, though. I've also read from the beginning but of course its possible I missed something of what has been reported. I haven't come across anywhere that he missed classes.

^^rsbbm

Missing Person: Jelani Day

8/26/21

Bloomington, IL - The Bloomington Police Department is seeking help from the public in locating a missing person.

Missing is Jelani J.J. Day, 25, of Bloomington, Illinois and is a graduate student at Illinois State University (ISU). Day was reported missing on 8/25/2021 under UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES by his family and an ISU faculty member.

Day's family last spoke to Day on the evening of 8/23/2021. They made attempts to locate him but were unsuccessful. Day also had not shown up to class the past several days.

Watch now: Communities heartbroken by news of Jelani Day's death

10/8/2021

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The investigation into Day's death is ongoing with the Bloomington Police Department assisted by the LaSalle County sheriff's and coroner's offices. Day, 25, who had aspired to study speech pathology and become a doctor, was reported missing Aug. 25 after he didn't attend class for several days.

Found Deceased - IL - Jelani 'JJ' Day, 25, ISU grad student, missed class, Bloomington, 23 Aug 2021

Found Deceased - IL - Jelani 'JJ' Day, 25, ISU grad student, missed class, Bloomington, 23 Aug 2021

 

[5W's]

^^rsbbm

Missing Person: Jelani Day

8/26/21

Bloomington, IL - The Bloomington Police Department is seeking help from the public in locating a missing person.

Missing is Jelani J.J. Day, 25, of Bloomington, Illinois and is a graduate student at Illinois State University (ISU). Day was reported missing on 8/25/2021 under UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES by his family and an ISU faculty member.

Day's family last spoke to Day on the evening of 8/23/2021. They made attempts to locate him but were unsuccessful. Day also had not shown up to class the past several days.

Watch now: Communities heartbroken by news of Jelani Day's death

10/8/2021

[..]

The investigation into Day's death is ongoing with the Bloomington Police Department assisted by the LaSalle County sheriff's and coroner's offices. Day, 25, who had aspired to study speech pathology and become a doctor, was reported missing Aug. 25 after he didn't attend class for several days.

Found Deceased - IL - Jelani 'JJ' Day, 25, ISU grad student, missed class, Bloomington, 23 Aug 2021

Found Deceased - IL - Jelani 'JJ' Day, 25, ISU grad student, missed class, Bloomington, 23 Aug 2021

Plus like "scriabina said" "I am intrigued by this comment" so I was under the same assumption as scriabina. Obviously I won't completely dismiss social media because if its fact based then its alright for example I suppose if someone quoted a statement from social media and it is a known fact I would never dismiss that. Like on Facebook a missing person's friend said that the person had a certain piece of equipment that if it was a current model may have helped find the individual but the indivifual had an older model of the item so I'm not going to dismiss something like that because its a known fact about the newer equipment model and the difference of the older one. I hope that clears my statement as I am genuinely intrigued as well.

 

[officer'swife 2010]

Just browsing looking at cases I’ve followed this case from the beginning just reading to see if any new news has been updated? How does an active swimmer end up dead in a River from drowning? Just don’t understand

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Just browsing looking at cases I’ve followed this case from the beginning just reading to see if any new news has been updated? How does an active swimmer end up dead in a River from drowning? Just don’t understand

bbm
Maybe he encountered a carp.
https://www.fws.gov/policy/library/2007/07-5141.pdf
"When a carp the size of a bowling ball smacks into you, it is a potential trip to the hospital. Just ask Eric Gittinger, a fishery biologist with the INHS, who studies the fish populations of the Mississippi and Illinois rivers.

Gittinger has the unenviable distinction of being struck by Asian carp 12 times. One hit to his neck was severe enough that he had to see a doctor and undergo physical therapy. He is still suffering from chronic pain related to his injury"

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

Just browsing looking at cases I’ve followed this case from the beginning just reading to see if any new news has been updated? How does an active swimmer end up dead in a River from drowning? Just don’t understand

There has been much discussion of drowning in this thread, if you have the time to read, and is it easy to research on the internet. People frequently drown, swimmers, non-swimmers, deep water, shallow water, a moment of panic, or exhaustion, a mental health issue, a current, an undertow, a gulp of water. He was in a large river, no evidence he was forced into the water. It sounds like he swam in a pool on a high school team. This does not make you drown-proof.

 

[Curious_in_NC]

Given the sweatshirt tied around the waist, I don't think he entered the water with an intention of swimming. That would hinder your swimming motion, and besides, why get it wet if you might want it later? It's easy enough to leave it behind.

 

[officer'swife 2010]

There has been much discussion of drowning in this thread, if you have the time to read, and is it easy to research on the internet. People frequently drown, swimmers, non-swimmers, deep water, shallow water, a moment of panic, or exhaustion, a mental health issue, a current, an undertow, a gulp of water. He was in a large river, no evidence he was forced into the water. It sounds like he swam in a pool on a high school team. This does not make you drown-proof.

I really wasn’t trying to be a smarty I was just really wondering??

 

[Seattle1]

I really wasn’t trying to be a smarty I was just really wondering??

Hard to Believe, But Even Good Swimmers Drown – Here is Why

Perhaps this link will help explain how it's possible for good swimmers to drown:

• Swimmers can drown because they are overconfident in their abilities
• Strong swimmers are less likely to be supervised, which increases their chances of drowning
• Experienced swimmers are more likely to take risks when involved in water-based activities
• Open water also poses a variety of dangers that often lead to drowning
• Specific drowning reasons in the above categories – read below to find out more

According to the World Health Organization, drowning accounts for 7% of all injury-related deaths. Although swimming lessons are highly recommended for children, the risks of drowning do not disappear.

Overall, engaging in water activities can put even the strongest swimmer at risk. Below we will expand on the outlined reasons why good swimmers can drown.

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[Seattle1]

Just browsing looking at cases I’ve followed this case from the beginning just reading to see if any new news has been updated? How does an active swimmer end up dead in a River from drowning? Just don’t understand

Here's another informative link.

National Center for Cold Water Safety

 

[NoSpoonFeeding]

I really wasn’t trying to be a smarty I was just really wondering??

Oh no, I didn't think you were being a smarty, nothing wrong with your post, sorry if it looked that way!

 

[officer'swife 2010]

Oh no, I didn't think you were being a smarty, nothing wrong with your post, sorry if it looked that way!

Actually really surprises me about good swimmers, I’ve always been around water since I was little but I have to tell you I get nervous at the beach with my son so this is very interesting, this might be removed but could it be possible that he did drown? Maybe getting something from the dispensary and not knowing what was happening? I’m gonna go back and read the forum

 

[SimplyCass]

Actually really surprises me about good swimmers, I’ve always been around water since I was little but I have to tell you I get nervous at the beach with my son so this is very interesting, this might be removed but could it be possible that he did drown? Maybe getting something from the dispensary and not knowing what was happening? I’m gonna go back and read the forum

The coroner's report does say that JJ drowned, but the manner in which he got there is not known.

it also finds no sign of external trauma that would indicate that he was deceased before entering the water (like no gun shots or other wounds), but with a qualifier that the body was too badly decomposed to make firm conclusions.

Early on there was speculation if he might have jumped from a nearby bridge.

As of right now, I don't know if we'll ever know what happened. I'll fully admit that the trail of items found really doesn't make sense. But it doesn't point to foul play or homicide either.

 

[5W's]

Actually really surprises me about good swimmers, I’ve always been around water since I was little but I have to tell you I get nervous at the beach with my son so this is very interesting, this might be removed but could it be possible that he did drown? Maybe getting something from the dispensary and not knowing what was happening? I’m gonna go back and read the forum

We don't know how much he had in his system. What he bought at the dispensary was the legal amount so it wasn't over the amount that can be sold. The regulations probably would have stopped the didpensary from selling a high amount. So the level was not high in that sense. Who know maybe he bought some more from someone unauthorized to sell and got a higher level that way. MOO.

 

[officer'swife 2010]

The coroner's report does say that JJ drowned, but the manner in which he got there is not known.

it also finds no sign of external trauma that would indicate that he was deceased before entering the water (like no gun shots or other wounds), but with a qualifier that the body was too badly decomposed to make firm conclusions.

Early on there was speculation if he might have jumped from a nearby bridge.

As of right now, I don't know if we'll ever know what happened. I'll fully admit that the trail of items found really doesn't make sense. But it doesn't point to foul play or homicide either.

I’ve actually been reading more of the posts it’s very interesting bc they don’t have a manner of death…it’s soooo sad

 

[Curious_in_NC]

We don't know how much he had in his system. What he bought at the dispensary was the legal amount so it wasn't over the amount that can be sold. The regulations probably would have stopped the didpensary from selling a high amount. So the level was not high in that sense. Who know maybe he bought some more from someone unauthorized to sell and got a higher level that way. MOO.

The legal amount listed by the dispensary is quite generous and seems to be based on IL law. It looks like you can buy far more than any experienced user would ever consume at one time. My opinion is that if he consumed an excessive amount he never would have made it driving as far as Peru.

From the Beyond/Hello web site:
Illinois Adult-Use Cannabis - Beyond / Hello

Illinois residents 21 years of age and older can possess:

• 30g of marijuana flower (smokable marijuana)
• 5g of “concentrated” forms of marijuana
• Marijuana-infused products that contain a total of 500mg of THC

 

[Seattle1]

The legal amount listed by the dispensary is quite generous and seems to be based on IL law. It looks like you can buy far more than any experienced user would ever consume at one time. My opinion is that if he consumed an excessive amount he never would have made it driving as far as Peru.

From the Beyond/Hello web site:
Illinois Adult-Use Cannabis - Beyond / Hello

Illinois residents 21 years of age and older can possess:

• 30g of marijuana flower (smokable marijuana)
• 5g of “concentrated” forms of marijuana
• Marijuana-infused products that contain a total of 500mg of THC

Thanks for the facts re. IL laws @Curious_in_NC. Since I don't recall any cannabis inventoried from the abandoned vehicle, perhaps JD consumed the limit upon arriving Peru. We know the autopsy confirmed THC but I don't recall the actual results.