GUILTY IL - Katrina Smith, 30, beaten to death, Machesney Park, 23 Oct 2012 - #2

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  • #81
Is there a bridge close from where the body could've been thrown down?

Byron, but it's two lane and narrow. Kishwaukie street, not road, just north of the airport, but here's a Ups hub with traffic at all hours right there. Bridge over the kishwaukee river on kishwaukee road, right next to junction with the Rock River, little traffic, usually people parked by the side at all hours of the night. The best place(creepiest to dump a body) I always thought was the boat launch just south of where route 2 splits off from south main on the island in the middle of the Rock. Secluded and private.
 
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Byron, but it's two lane and narrow. Kishwaukie street, not road, just north of the airport, but here's a Ups hub with traffic at all hours right there. Bridge over the kishwaukee river on kishwaukee road, right next to junction with the Rock River, little traffic, usually people parked by the side at all hours of the night. The best place(creepiest to dump a body) I always thought was the boat launch just south of where route 2 splits off from south main on the island in the middle of the Rock. Secluded and private.

Do you have a google earth type view of that? It sounds a lot like the place in LA that Mighty Mickey's bike was disposed of. TIA
 
  • #84
Sure. A body can go over most dams. I don't think that happened in this case. But it's possible.
 
  • #85
Do you have a google earth type view of that? It sounds a lot like the place in LA that Mighty Mickey's bike was disposed of. TIA

put in Island blvd. rockford IL and it'll turn up. I don't know how to do the screen capture, sorry.
 
  • #86
I'm not 100% on this, and if anybody knows for sure I stand corrected, but couldn't a body go over the Fordham dam in the Rock River?

I find it highly unlikely that a body would pass through and go unnoticed. That is a very high traffic area. Both vehicle and foot traffic.
 
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put in Island blvd. rockford IL and it'll turn up. I don't know how to do the screen capture, sorry.

I can do a screen capture...

Bah! Google earth is not working for me!
 
  • #89
Blackhawk Island? Is that where the boat ramp is you are talking about?
http://goo.gl/maps/X0gFC

The inhabited part of the island is off to the right. The remains of an old casino(?) bar, I've heard lots of different stories is to the left. the baot ramp in at the bottom, almost hidden by some trees. It goes into the narrower, deeper channel. It's popular with fighermen during good weather.
 
  • #90
Well, with the draught we had this year I have to wonder how much water would be flowing over any of the damns right now. I don't know that there would be enough water flow to allow something as large as a body to pass over the damn....... not sure.
 
  • #91
"BYRON — The Byron Fire Department’s water rescue team recovered the body of a white female from the Rock River about one mile south of this community this afternoon.

About 1:30 p.m., an off-duty firefighter fishing in the river saw the body ensnared in a tree about 65 yards north of an Illinois Department of Transportation boat ramp and about 65 yards into the river........." snipped

http://www.rrstar.com/updates/x255968526/Woman-s-body-recovered-from-Rock-River-near-Byron
 
  • #92
If you put in Hinchcliff memorial forest preserve you'll see another good spot. The Kish river flows fast enough into the Rock, you can still see the current, even with the river being down.
 
  • #93
White female, that is narrowing things down even more. I can't imagine that this body is not Katrina's. The distance hardly matters when you think how long it was before she was reported missing.
 
  • #94
Whit female, that is narrowing things down even more. I can't imagine that this body is not Katrina's. The distance hardly matters when you think how long it was before she was reported missing.

Or transporting the body to a place closer to where it was found.
 
  • #95
I wouldn't surprised if Katrina's body was found with no pants. Everything else in her case seems a bit staged to me...the car being left, the purse, the phone...the wallet left somewhere else.
In an effort to make a particular case look like theft, car-jacking, or rape, perps can do all sorts of things to lead or mislead LE.
 
  • #96
If you have the time to take the body past the dams and put it in the river, WHY? There are huge tracts of nature preserves and farm land just to the west of the home across the river. Take it out there and bury the remains--wouldn't it be easier, and she'd never be found.
 
  • #97
If you have the time to take the body past the dams and put it in the river, WHY? There are huge tracts of nature preserves and farm land just to the west of the home across the river. Take it out there and bury the remains--wouldn't it be easier, and she'd never be found.

You are making a common mistake. You are assuming that a killer would think logically. That is often not the case. They often do things that are inexplicable and/or ignorant. Since they are willing to kill, we already know they have problems. Usually, they also panic after the fact and do all sorts of things that make no sense.
 
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The body was clothed but because of the length of time that had passed, the clothing had faded to the point of being unidentifiable.

http://www.rrstar.com/updates/x255968526/Woman-s-body-recovered-from-Rock-River-near-Byron

:waitasec:
Another report said no pants. Even so black pants and a red shirt you would think after only 2 weeks would still have enough color in them to tell what they had been.

Winnebago county is staying involved, so I would have to *speculate* there are indications that it is her.

http://www.wifr.com/home/headlines/Body-Found-South-of-Byron-178153581.html
 
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:waitasec:
Another report said no pants. Even so black pants and a red shirt you would think after only 2 weeks would still have enough color in them to tell what they had been.

Winnebago county is staying involved, so I would have to *speculate* there are indications that it is her.

http://www.wifr.com/home/headlines/Body-Found-South-of-Byron-178153581.html

It's river water, not salt water. I find that detail strange too. But I guess if the fabric was all cotton and not synthetic? Or also if the body had been tangled in that log and exposed to sunlight.
 
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