GUILTY IL - Sheila von Wiese Mack, 62, in suitcase in Bali, 12 Aug 2014 *fnd guilty in Bali* #6
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So that's the real reason that Heather is fighting so hard to keep control of her.
My guess is who ever has permanent custody of Stella will benefit, at least in some way, due to Stella's inheritance of Sheila von Wiese Mack's estate. mo
Yes, whatever was left of Sheila’s estate was eventually signed over to Stella after years of HM depleting it fighting in court to get it for herself. She also was given a substantial amount to pay for her corrupt Bali lawyer to get her such a lenient sentence on a lesser charge. I believe there were also funds released monthly to support Stella while she was in Bali.
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How much could be left? I said at the start of this that it wasn't that much money in today's world, but I've watched some ugly grab attempts and Stella become a tool by what seems greedy people.
This has been going on so long, my memory isn't as sharp, but... Heather always seemed to resent the money from her father's death that went to Sheila. She seemed to feel she was cheated, she was owed. She probably still wants what is now Stella's money.
I hope Stella has a new life and that money is protected and gets to her when she's of age without Heather around. Please let someone caring about her, not any money, raise Stella now.
This has been going on so long, my memory isn't as sharp, but... Heather always seemed to resent the money from her father's death that went to Sheila. She seemed to feel she was cheated, she was owed. She probably still wants what is now Stella's money.
I hope Stella has a new life and that money is protected and gets to her when she's of age without Heather around. Please let someone caring about her, not any money, raise Stella now.
HM is really something else, isn't she? Oh yes, she was "never violent" to Stella - well, once she turned 2, Stella wasn't actually living with Mommy, was she? Someone who could actually murder her own mother can never be trusted again IMO. Especially with someone smaller and richer.
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This is how I recall it too.Yes, whatever was left of Sheila’s estate was eventually signed over to Stella after years of HM depleting it fighting in court to get it for herself. She also was given a substantial amount to pay for her corrupt Bali lawyer to get her such a lenient sentence on a lesser charge. I believe there were also funds released monthly to support Stella while she was in Bali.
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Daughter imprisoned in Bali slaying settles mother’s estate, 3-year-old daughter named beneficiary
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Heather Mack was ‘directly involved’ in mother’s murder, should stay in jail: feds
A judge is expected to consider a request to release Heather Mack during a hearing Thursday in Chicago. Mack’s attorneys insist she poses no danger to the community and is not a flight risk.
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Dec. 6, 2022
Federal prosecutors opposing the release of onetime Chicago socialite Heather Mack said Monday that the 27-year-old not only conspired to have her mother killed overseas in 2014 — but that she “was directly involved in her mother’s murder.”
They said Mack and her onetime boyfriend, Tommy Schaefer, once explained to a relative of Schaefer’s how Sheila von Wiese-Mack was killed in an Indonesian hotel room. The pair allegedly said that Schaefer hit the 62-year-old Oak Park woman with a fruit bowl and that Mack covered her mother’s mouth with her hand.
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Those allegations appeared in a 15-page court filing Monday in which the feds asked U.S. District Judge Matthew Kennelly to reject a request from Mack for release while she awaits trial for conspiring to have her mother killed in Indonesia.
The judge is expected to consider the request during a hearing Thursday at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse. Mack’s attorneys insist she poses no danger to the community and is not a flight risk.
I take that to be this coming Thursday, Dec. 8th.
Some of the details that are coming out during this bail request are even more damning than what we’ve previously been privy too during the trials in Bali. If the FBI have proof that HM was directly involved, then the Indonesian police and prosecutors likely had it too. The fact that her conviction and sentence was based on the lie that she was hiding in the bathroom, when there was proof she was not, really shows how corrupt those prosecutors and judges were after accepting the victim’s money. It’s disgusting really.Heather Mack was ‘directly involved’ in mother’s murder, should stay in jail: feds
A judge is expected to consider a request to release Heather Mack during a hearing Thursday in Chicago. Mack’s attorneys insist she poses no danger to the community and is not a flight risk.
Dec. 6, 2022
Federal prosecutors opposing the release of onetime Chicago socialite Heather Mack said Monday that the 27-year-old not only conspired to have her mother killed overseas in 2014 — but that she “was directly involved in her mother’s murder.”
They said Mack and her onetime boyfriend, Tommy Schaefer, once explained to a relative of Schaefer’s how Sheila von Wiese-Mack was killed in an Indonesian hotel room. The pair allegedly said that Schaefer hit the 62-year-old Oak Park woman with a fruit bowl and that Mack covered her mother’s mouth with her hand.
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Those allegations appeared in a 15-page court filing Monday in which the feds asked U.S. District Judge Matthew Kennelly to reject a request from Mack for release while she awaits trial for conspiring to have her mother killed in Indonesia.
The judge is expected to consider the request during a hearing Thursday at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse. Mack’s attorneys insist she poses no danger to the community and is not a flight risk.
I take that to be this coming Thursday, Dec. 8th.
This also stood out for me in the article…
”They also said a proposed third-party custodian, a family friend who lives in California, "is not suitable" and has said she was not willing to post money or property toward bond. Though the person is not named in court filings, Mack has said she hopes to live with Diana Roque Ellis of California.”
Has “Aunt Diana” come to her senses about HM or is there no chance that she can proceed with the documentary now that Stella’s court guardian is aware of that plan? Is she still even interested in getting custody of Stella? If she doesn’t post bond, how would HM raise the cash on her own?
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"No danger to the community?" This is a woman who is capable of anything.
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Heather Mack's attorneys seek release while awaiting trial
The Oak Park native already served seven years in an Indonesian prison for helping her boyfriend kill Sheila Von Wiese Mack and put her body into a suitcase in 2014.
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Heather Mack is an Oak Park native. Link below is Oak Park Journal:
Mack is scheduled to appear physically in court for her detention hearing on Thursday, Dec. 8, at 10:30 a.m. At that time lawyers from both sides will make oral arguments before Judge Matthew F. Kennelly.
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Mack is scheduled to appear physically in court for her detention hearing on Thursday, Dec. 8, at 10:30 a.m. At that time lawyers from both sides will make oral arguments before Judge Matthew F. Kennelly.
Feds likely to seek life sentence for Heather Mack, allege direct hand in mother’s murder - Wednesday Journal
Two days ahead of a scheduled bond hearing for accused killer Heather Mack, federal prosecutors issued a 15-page brief staunchly opposing her release from custody under any conditions...
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Heather Mack is an Oak Park native. Link below is Oak Park Journal:
Mack is scheduled to appear physically in court for her detention hearing on Thursday, Dec. 8, at 10:30 a.m. At that time lawyers from both sides will make oral arguments before Judge Matthew F. Kennelly.
Feds likely to seek life sentence for Heather Mack, allege direct hand in mother’s murder - Wednesday Journal
Two days ahead of a scheduled bond hearing for accused killer Heather Mack, federal prosecutors issued a 15-page brief staunchly opposing her release from custody under any conditions...
Wow, she might get a life sentence. She held a hand over her own mother's mouth while her boyfriend beat her mother. I think this is new info to me. Were they tapping her phone calls to a relative? Said her mother had to die. I remember Heather did a lot of talking and it ended up in the press, sometimes saying she was glad her mother was dead and other times faking remorse. Always acting like she knew what she was doing, not that she was mentally ill. Her big mouth over the phone to that relative will hopefully help sentence her to LWOP.
Feds likely to seek life sentence for Heather Mack, allege direct hand in mother’s murder - Wednesday Journal
Two days ahead of a scheduled bond hearing for accused killer Heather Mack, federal prosecutors issued a 15-page brief staunchly opposing her release from custody under any conditions...
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Prosecutors say that, in what appears to be a recorded conversation at the prison, and in a subsequent recorded phone call between Mack, Tommy Schaefer and a relative of Schaefer, Heather Mack admitted to “covering Von Wiese’s mouth with her hand” while boyfriend Schaefer beat her.
When the relative asked in a later phone call why Mack did that, Mack reportedly replied that “Von Weise had to die because Schaefer would have been in even bigger trouble if Von Wiese survived.” Von Wiese Mack, they say, “suffered more than a dozen blows” to her head.
“These and other admissions indicate that Mack didn’t just conspire to kill her mother, but was directly involved in her mother’s murder,” prosecutors allege.
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When the relative asked in a later phone call why Mack did that, Mack reportedly replied that “Von Weise had to die because Schaefer would have been in even bigger trouble if Von Wiese survived.” Von Wiese Mack, they say, “suffered more than a dozen blows” to her head.
“These and other admissions indicate that Mack didn’t just conspire to kill her mother, but was directly involved in her mother’s murder,” prosecutors allege.
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I don't believe for a minute that Heather was “truly out of her mind” prior to, and during, the Bali trip. IMO, she's always been a selfish brat, to say the very least. Before the Bali trip, she was aggressively after what she wanted to happen. Full of herself, arrogant about it, but definitely not insane.
Feds likely to seek life sentence for Heather Mack, allege direct hand in mother’s murder - Wednesday Journal
Two days ahead of a scheduled bond hearing for accused killer Heather Mack, federal prosecutors issued a 15-page brief staunchly opposing her release from custody under any conditions...
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Should Mack opt to go to trial in July, she will be confronted with her own recorded confessions of guilt. In a footnote, prosecutors made mention of a February 2017 YouTube video in which Mack went into detail regarding both her motivation for and direct involvement in her mother’s murder.
Mack is scheduled to appear physically in court for her detention hearing on Thursday, Dec. 8, at 10:30 a.m. At that time lawyers from both sides will make oral arguments before Judge Matthew F. Kennelly.
Mack is scheduled to appear physically in court for her detention hearing on Thursday, Dec. 8, at 10:30 a.m. At that time lawyers from both sides will make oral arguments before Judge Matthew F. Kennelly.
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Thursday, December 8th:
*Status Hearing (conspiracy) (@ 10:30am CT) –IL - Sheila von Wiese-Mack (62) (killed in Bali on 8/12/14 by daughter & her bf Tommy Schaefer at the St. Regis Bali Resort Hotel in Bali, Indonesia) - *Heather Mack (19 @ time of crime/26) Federal indictment (2017), charged & arrested (11/3/21) & arraigned (11/3/21) with conspiracy to kill in a foreign country, conspiracy to commit foreign murder of a U.S. national & obstruction of justice. Plead not guilty (11/3/21). Held without bond.
Bench trial began on 9/6/22 for custody of Stella & ended on 11/18/22 with Cook County Judge Stephanie Miller ordering temporary care of Stella to Lisa Hellman, whose mother is/was sister of Sheila.
Federal Trial set to begin on 7/31/23. (3 week trial)
Info on Mack’s previous crime & case info from 11/12/21 thru 6/29/22 & Bench Trial Day 1-25 (9/6/22 to 10/7/22) reference post #551 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...-aug-2014-fnd-guilty-in-bali-6.593581/page-28
9/8/22 Update: Mack has pleaded not guilty to the charges & U.S. District Judge Charles Norgle on Thursday scheduled Mack's trial to begin on 7/31/23. Federal prosecutors have said they expect the trial "will last no longer than three weeks."
11/18/22 Update: Cook County Judge Stephanie Miller ordered Heather Mack’s 7-year-old daughter into the temporary care of a maternal cousin of Mack’s from Colorado at the end of a contentious, hours long hearing Thursday — despite Mack asking the judge from jail to choose the girl’s grandmother instead. Lisa Hellmann will become the third person to care for Estelle Schaefer, known as Stella, since the child’s November 2021 arrival in the United States with her mother from Indonesia. Mack was immediately arrested at O’Hare Airport & has been in U.S. custody ever since, under indictment for conspiring to kill her own mother, Sheila von Wiese-Mack, in 2014. Miller said Stella’s placement with Hellmann was “not the most ideal situation.” The pair have had just a handful of virtual visits as part of the ongoing custody dispute. However, the judge also complained that Stella’s first caretaker in the United States, attorney Vanessa Favia, relinquished custody of Stella after seven months. The woman who previously cared for Stella in Indonesia, Oshar Suartama, came to Illinois in June to take custody of the girl. Now Suartama’s attorney says her client must leave the United States by Friday. Mack told the judge that Hellmann “hasn’t said one word to any of us for years.” Later, after the judge ordered Stella into Hellmann’s care effective Friday, Mack asked for an additional order that she be allowed to visit virtually with her daughter. “I’m sure that I would be denied access from Ms. Hellmann,” Mack said. Hellmann’s attorney, Clarke Mac Gillespie, said his client would “absolutely” facilitate those visits if approved by Stella’s therapist. The therapist did not object, so Miller also ordered weekly visits between Mack & Stella.
11/21/22 Update: Mack's attorney is asking Federal Judge Matthew Kennelly to release her from jail as she awaits trial. After she was released from prison in Indonesia, Mack was deported back to the U.S. & before landing back in Chicago last November, when she was immediately arrested on a federal indictment charging her & Schaefer with conspiracy & obstruction of justice. Mack has been held at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in downtown Chicago ever since, but on Monday her defense attorneys filed a motion asking for her to be released from custody as she awaits trial, set for next July 31, 2023. In the motion, Mack's defense attorneys argue she is not a flight risk, saying she "has no means to travel" & has already forfeited her passport. They also argue, despite her Indonesian conviction for her mother's murder, she poses no danger to the community. Mack's defense team argued, if a judge believes there is any risk of flight or danger to the community, those concerns can be alleviated by either placing her on electronic monitoring, home confinement, or other pretrial conditions. "In addition, Ms. Mack's counsel proposes that Ms. Mack live with a third-party custodian & counsel is providing the contact information for that individual to Pretrial Services – as well as providing the identity of that proposed individual to the Government," her attorneys wrote. According to the indictment, they also "corruptly destroyed, mutilated & concealed objects & attempted to do so, with intent to impair the object's integrity & availability for use in an official proceeding, by forcing the body of Sheila A. Von Wiese into a suitcase after she had been killed & removing the suitcase from the place of the murder & by removing linens & items of clothing worn during the killing." Mack has pleaded not guilty to the charges & U.S. District Judge Charles Norgle on Thursday scheduled Mack's trial to begin on July 31, 2023. Federal prosecutors have said they expect the trial "will last no longer than three weeks."
11/28/22 Update: Mack testified for roughly three hours Monday during a state-court bench trial meant to decide the fate of Mack’s child, Estelle Schaefer. Mack confirmed for Cook County Judge Stephanie Miller that she prefers that the girl, known as Stella, be placed in the care of Diana Roque Ellis of California if a woman who previously cared for Stella in Indonesia, Oshar Suartama, is unavailable. For now, Stella is in the care of a maternal cousin of Mack’s, Lisa Hellmann of Colorado. Mack said Monday she has concerns about that arrangement, but she acknowledged they were lessened by a recent virtual visit with Stella.
11/30/22 Update: Mack on Nov. 21, 2022 formally requested a judge grant her release on bond from federal custody as she awaits a scheduled criminal trial in July for conspiracy to murder her mother. Status hearing on 12/21/22. 12/5/22 Update: Federal prosecutors opposing the release of Mack said Monday that the 27-year-old not only conspired to have her mother killed overseas in 2014 — but that she “was directly involved in her mother’s murder.” Those allegations appeared in a 15-page court filing Monday in which the feds asked U.S. District Judge Matthew Kennelly to reject a request from Mack for release while she awaits trial for conspiring to have her mother killed in Indonesia. The judge is expected to consider the request during a hearing Thursday, 12/8/22 at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse. Mack’s attorneys insist she poses no danger to the community & is not a flight risk.
*Status Hearing (conspiracy) (@ 10:30am CT) –IL - Sheila von Wiese-Mack (62) (killed in Bali on 8/12/14 by daughter & her bf Tommy Schaefer at the St. Regis Bali Resort Hotel in Bali, Indonesia) - *Heather Mack (19 @ time of crime/26) Federal indictment (2017), charged & arrested (11/3/21) & arraigned (11/3/21) with conspiracy to kill in a foreign country, conspiracy to commit foreign murder of a U.S. national & obstruction of justice. Plead not guilty (11/3/21). Held without bond.
Bench trial began on 9/6/22 for custody of Stella & ended on 11/18/22 with Cook County Judge Stephanie Miller ordering temporary care of Stella to Lisa Hellman, whose mother is/was sister of Sheila.
Federal Trial set to begin on 7/31/23. (3 week trial)
Info on Mack’s previous crime & case info from 11/12/21 thru 6/29/22 & Bench Trial Day 1-25 (9/6/22 to 10/7/22) reference post #551 here:
https://www.websleuths.com/forums/t...-aug-2014-fnd-guilty-in-bali-6.593581/page-28
9/8/22 Update: Mack has pleaded not guilty to the charges & U.S. District Judge Charles Norgle on Thursday scheduled Mack's trial to begin on 7/31/23. Federal prosecutors have said they expect the trial "will last no longer than three weeks."
11/18/22 Update: Cook County Judge Stephanie Miller ordered Heather Mack’s 7-year-old daughter into the temporary care of a maternal cousin of Mack’s from Colorado at the end of a contentious, hours long hearing Thursday — despite Mack asking the judge from jail to choose the girl’s grandmother instead. Lisa Hellmann will become the third person to care for Estelle Schaefer, known as Stella, since the child’s November 2021 arrival in the United States with her mother from Indonesia. Mack was immediately arrested at O’Hare Airport & has been in U.S. custody ever since, under indictment for conspiring to kill her own mother, Sheila von Wiese-Mack, in 2014. Miller said Stella’s placement with Hellmann was “not the most ideal situation.” The pair have had just a handful of virtual visits as part of the ongoing custody dispute. However, the judge also complained that Stella’s first caretaker in the United States, attorney Vanessa Favia, relinquished custody of Stella after seven months. The woman who previously cared for Stella in Indonesia, Oshar Suartama, came to Illinois in June to take custody of the girl. Now Suartama’s attorney says her client must leave the United States by Friday. Mack told the judge that Hellmann “hasn’t said one word to any of us for years.” Later, after the judge ordered Stella into Hellmann’s care effective Friday, Mack asked for an additional order that she be allowed to visit virtually with her daughter. “I’m sure that I would be denied access from Ms. Hellmann,” Mack said. Hellmann’s attorney, Clarke Mac Gillespie, said his client would “absolutely” facilitate those visits if approved by Stella’s therapist. The therapist did not object, so Miller also ordered weekly visits between Mack & Stella.
11/21/22 Update: Mack's attorney is asking Federal Judge Matthew Kennelly to release her from jail as she awaits trial. After she was released from prison in Indonesia, Mack was deported back to the U.S. & before landing back in Chicago last November, when she was immediately arrested on a federal indictment charging her & Schaefer with conspiracy & obstruction of justice. Mack has been held at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in downtown Chicago ever since, but on Monday her defense attorneys filed a motion asking for her to be released from custody as she awaits trial, set for next July 31, 2023. In the motion, Mack's defense attorneys argue she is not a flight risk, saying she "has no means to travel" & has already forfeited her passport. They also argue, despite her Indonesian conviction for her mother's murder, she poses no danger to the community. Mack's defense team argued, if a judge believes there is any risk of flight or danger to the community, those concerns can be alleviated by either placing her on electronic monitoring, home confinement, or other pretrial conditions. "In addition, Ms. Mack's counsel proposes that Ms. Mack live with a third-party custodian & counsel is providing the contact information for that individual to Pretrial Services – as well as providing the identity of that proposed individual to the Government," her attorneys wrote. According to the indictment, they also "corruptly destroyed, mutilated & concealed objects & attempted to do so, with intent to impair the object's integrity & availability for use in an official proceeding, by forcing the body of Sheila A. Von Wiese into a suitcase after she had been killed & removing the suitcase from the place of the murder & by removing linens & items of clothing worn during the killing." Mack has pleaded not guilty to the charges & U.S. District Judge Charles Norgle on Thursday scheduled Mack's trial to begin on July 31, 2023. Federal prosecutors have said they expect the trial "will last no longer than three weeks."
11/28/22 Update: Mack testified for roughly three hours Monday during a state-court bench trial meant to decide the fate of Mack’s child, Estelle Schaefer. Mack confirmed for Cook County Judge Stephanie Miller that she prefers that the girl, known as Stella, be placed in the care of Diana Roque Ellis of California if a woman who previously cared for Stella in Indonesia, Oshar Suartama, is unavailable. For now, Stella is in the care of a maternal cousin of Mack’s, Lisa Hellmann of Colorado. Mack said Monday she has concerns about that arrangement, but she acknowledged they were lessened by a recent virtual visit with Stella.
11/30/22 Update: Mack on Nov. 21, 2022 formally requested a judge grant her release on bond from federal custody as she awaits a scheduled criminal trial in July for conspiracy to murder her mother. Status hearing on 12/21/22. 12/5/22 Update: Federal prosecutors opposing the release of Mack said Monday that the 27-year-old not only conspired to have her mother killed overseas in 2014 — but that she “was directly involved in her mother’s murder.” Those allegations appeared in a 15-page court filing Monday in which the feds asked U.S. District Judge Matthew Kennelly to reject a request from Mack for release while she awaits trial for conspiring to have her mother killed in Indonesia. The judge is expected to consider the request during a hearing Thursday, 12/8/22 at the Dirksen Federal Courthouse. Mack’s attorneys insist she poses no danger to the community & is not a flight risk.
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NEW: A bond hearing is about to begin in Chicago's federal court for Heather Mack, who has been behind bars since the day nearly 8 1/2 years ago that her mother's bludgeoned body was discovered stuffed in a suitcase in the Bali vacation resort.
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Heather Mack was brought into the courtroom by deputy U.S. Marshals in an orange jail jumpsuit. She didn’t look at her aunt and uncle, Bill Wiese and Debbi Curran, brother and sister of von Wiese-Mack, who are seated in the gallery and will issue statements against her release.
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Prosecutors want to play a 4-minute video of Mack and her boyfriend trying to get the bloody suitcase with her mother’s body into a cab in Bali. The judge however says he doesn’t need to see it because there is no real dispute about what happened.
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NEW: A bond hearing is about to begin in Chicago's federal court for Heather Mack, who has been behind bars since the day nearly 8 1/2 years ago that her mother's bludgeoned body was discovered stuffed in a suitcase in the Bali vacation resort.
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Heather Mack was brought into the courtroom by deputy U.S. Marshals in an orange jail jumpsuit. She didn’t look at her aunt and uncle, Bill Wiese and Debbi Curran, brother and sister of von Wiese-Mack, who are seated in the gallery and will issue statements against her release.
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Prosecutors want to play a 4-minute video of Mack and her boyfriend trying to get the bloody suitcase with her mother’s body into a cab in Bali. The judge however says he doesn’t need to see it because there is no real dispute about what happened.
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JUST IN: Judge rules Heather Mack will remain jailed pending trial in Chicago federal case stemming from mother’s 2014 slaying in Bali, saying there is “plenty of reason to believe she is a danger to the community.”
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JUST IN: Judge rules Heather Mack will remain jailed pending trial in Chicago federal case stemming from mother’s 2014 slaying in Bali, saying there is “plenty of reason to believe she is a danger to the community.”
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