GUILTY IL - Willow Long, 7, Watson, 8 Sept 2013 - #2

[popsicle]

There is a press conference after the court hearing tomorrow though.

 

[PoeticJustice]

can we please revisit the small footprints found around (a lake i believe?) is it possible he could have made her walk around it, or maybe she was attempting to run away from him if he had taken her out to the woods to hurt her? i could see that being leverage for the 1st degree murder charge. i don't believe this was an accident. i call BS. the "it was an accident" scenario seems to be a common excuse for many murderers...more like deep rooted denial IMO.

 

[gngr~snap]

can we please revisit the small footprints found around (a lake i believe?) is it possible he could have made her walk around it, or maybe she was attempting to run away from him if he had taken her out to the woods to hurt her? i could see that being leverage for the 1st degree murder charge. i don't believe this was an accident. i call BS. the "it was an accident" scenario seems to be a common excuse for many murderers...more like deep rooted denial IMO.

This just makes me so sad!

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[margarita25]

Side note on slash piles for the city folk

The "pile of sticks" could well be what we here in rural MT call slash piles: mine are 5-6 feet high and are piles of brush/sticks of cleared debris from our woods/farm land--to be burned in fall or spring.
I have always cautioned my daughter and her friends to NOT play on or near these as I freak out worrying about puncture or impalement injuries....

FWIW, I have been accidentally, rather seriously stabbed / injured by sticks. Seriously, I am not being sarcastic.

 

[popsicle]

can we please revisit the small footprints found around (a lake i believe?) is it possible he could have made her walk around it, or maybe she was attempting to run away from him if he had taken her out to the woods to hurt her? i could see that being leverage for the 1st degree murder charge. i don't believe this was an accident. i call BS. the "it was an accident" scenario seems to be a common excuse for many murderers...more like deep rooted denial IMO.

LE said those were not her footprints.

 

[sadnpod]

A lot of us were checking out fb pages.. and pics of Willow and her little brother. I noted to myself that little brother looked bruised in several pics. Trying to be victim friendly, I didnt post about it. Now I'm wondering if any of you saw this too?

 

[seguek9]

can we please revisit the small footprints found around (a lake i believe?) is it possible he could have made her walk around it, or maybe she was attempting to run away from him if he had taken her out to the woods to hurt her? i could see that being leverage for the 1st degree murder charge. i don't believe this was an accident. i call BS. the "it was an accident" scenario seems to be a common excuse for many murderers...more like deep rooted denial IMO.

Those were ruled out as not being Willow's iirc

 

[matou]

I'm sorry, I just don't (can't) believe the uncle's story. Who would put a child out of their misery and then hide the body if she was innocently hurt while outside playing?????

Seriously, who would do that?!

Just reading up on the news and haven't made it through yet but WTH???? I'm not buying it. Did no one scream or yell or freak out running around??? The mom slept through this and no one woke her up in a panic? GMAFB. Sorry, not buying it for a second. JMO

 

[gngr~snap]

A lot of us were checking out fb pages.. and pics of Willow and her little brother. I noted to myself that little brother looked bruised in several pics. Trying to be victim friendly, I didnt post about it. Now I'm wondering if any of you saw this too?

Let's hope that is just a 3 your old trying to keep up with a 7 yr old sister!

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[Lava]

So much bickering over money on that FB page. Can't people wait a few days to start that?

 

[mysticrose]

I hope and pray that mom is not lying about what she said happened, I am sure she would have been hysterical to come home and find out her daughter was dead and then cover for her brother ? oh I hope not .......

 

[2Hope4]

Those lovely obstruction of justice charges just might show up yet. IMO

 

[margarita25]

I'm willing to bet LE was onto this guy from the very, very start. Hence, the super searches. They knew, I'm telling you, they knew he did something with her. I think LE knew they were likely looking for a body. JMO.

 

[krimekat]

I think it would nice to post that here.

or at least provide to those who want to help Thanks!

 

[Teche]

Well this just is awful! The only upside is that she was found, the perp arrested and now the case can begin for swift justice. I've read this thread and Im pretty taken aback by a few opinions regarding looks, drug use and Satanism! Where do people get this?! As a recovering junkie (yep, I went there) who is a card carrying member of the COS - I would hate to hear what people would think of me on these boards. Hurting a child or another person is against all logic. Do people do horrific things while "high"? yes. Do people do horrific things while sober? Yes. I can assure you that not many heroin addicts have the energy or care to kill someone! Only a sick and depraved person with no empathy for human life commits murder - period - mental illness, religion and choice of substances aside.

Drugs don't make you a bad person, being a bad person makes you a bad person. Sometimes people use their addictions as an excuse - the second that becomes less believable is when people stop allowing that to be used and justified.

The thanks button was not enough. I love your i sight and when you post.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Yep. The more I read, the more I am thinking it was a horrible, horrible accident. His -yet unconfirmed- statement of Willow's moment of death is sobering. :grouphug:

SeaChiq-

You know I love you, but IMO this was no accident and this "uncle" is lying through his teeth.

Um, fell on a STICK and IMPALED her head? No. Nope. This ain't no video game.

 

[matou]

yes, so why did the mother lie about Sunday morning

WTH?????? It happened at night????

 

[Karmady]

A lot of us were checking out fb pages.. and pics of Willow and her little brother. I noted to myself that little brother looked bruised in several pics. Trying to be victim friendly, I didnt post about it. Now I'm wondering if any of you saw this too?

I didn't notice but also wasn't looking for it. I did notice that he seemed kind of "miserable" in all of the photos. He may just be that sort of child though. Not sure if we'll ever find out if there was a history of abuse. But I will say that my son often looks like he's been beaten with a shovel and I've never laid an angry hand (or shovel!) on him in his life. Literally. And if I had, I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have posted pics of the aftermath on fb. But that's just me.

jmo

 

[gngr~snap]

SeaChiq-

You know I love you, but IMO this was no accident and this "uncle" is lying through his teeth.

Um, fell on a STICK and IMPALED her head? No. Nope. This ain't no video game.

It was a pile of sticks ... one would think there would be more than one injury. - I am guessing there were!

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[sherbetjello]

I really want to know why the grandfather came out saying "I suspect foul play" and then today he is saying "This was a tragic accident."

Makes me wonder what his first instincts were, and what that could say about the dynamics within that household.