Deceased/Not Found IL - Yingying Zhang, 26, Urbana, 9 June 2017 #10 *Still Missing*

[Raptors001]

“Secret Chinese interviews?”

What? Did the defense think they were entitled to go along and cross-examine them?

What? They chinese police was not even in USA when the murder took place.

 

[AnemoneBrown]

Thanks for your reply Kitty. You are telling me my facts are incorrect but then are affirming them. Forgive me for being confused and indulge me one last time as I explain my confusion:

1. "quite a few of those are incorrect, actually.
She not only testified she filled it, but prosecution presented evidence to that effect.. see exhibits.
That is not an alibi. She bought petrol. Half of it was gone when she returned. She didn't use it."
**** So, you agree with me that she DID in fact provide exculpatory (in terms of evidence of premeditation) statements (and receipts) for the tank being full of gas. So she did help him.

2) There is no evidence that Michelle cobntacted TB to 'shut Tb up' , only that he asked her to.
There is evidence that Michelle attempted contact with TB, but as that contact was never made, it is sheer speculation . She may have wanted TB to help save him, it's possible, but it's not factual.

*** Point granted. We are left with BC giving an instruction to MZ, MZ calling as instructed but the content of that would be conversation is unknown to both you and I. It is more probable to believe she was going to follow through in the cover up than to believe she wasn't. But the fact remains BC asked MZ to call to shut TB up and MZ did call in fact the very same day she spoke to BC.

3) AS far as I know, the only thing she scrubbed was a comment on his Reddit ac , a comment he made on the uIC police post about the missing girl. His comment was 'how bundy-esque'
You will find that exhibit in exhibits list too.

*** Thank you for this. I forgot about it. There are several comments on this board of sleuthers who have tried to go back and look at his profiles and find them all deleted. Conjecture, maybe, but, again, a mysterious coincidence that he instructed her to delete his profiles, they are in fact deleted, and somehow we are asked to believe that it wasn't her. It's possible it wasn't her, but it is probable it was.

Putting clothes on or taking them off, or freezing when 7, no less, police officers entered that tiny apartment is not evidence of anything except freezing. She made no attempt to stop the search nad in fact signed consent to let it go ahead. She was extremely helpful to the police and spoke with them for hours. She also told them it was within the realms of possibility that he did indeed kill YingYing.

*** Incorrect. My comment was that she refused to go put some clothes on once the officers were inside the apartment and directly asked her to do so. She was insubordinate and defiant in that specific instance. Again, you may not like my inference but my facts are correct. United States v. Christensen, Case No. 17-cr-20037-JES-JEH | Casetext

The knife sharpening conversation took place many months before they were used to possibly hack a woman to pieces. It is not evidence that she helped him or was co-conspirator.

*** And that is not what I asserted. I said she provided an exculpatory statement of why he went online searching for how to sharpen knives. Without her testimony it would appear he had been planning victimizing someone for months (since April) as opposed to suddenly snapping due to rum, migraines, depression, etc.

So, she her testimony did help him or attempted to do so. You were wrong to say that it did not. Again, I know we are not going to agree and I have no interest in bringing this up to you again, but please note that although you are the MVP on this case and I am mighty grateful to you for your dedication, I too have been following the case with some degree of care and I'm not just making stuff up.

We are looking at the same set of facts and coming to different inferences and that is OK.

quite a few of those are incorrect, actually.
She not only testified she filled it, but prosecution presented evidence to that effect.. see exhibits.
That is not an alibi. She bought petrol. Half of it was gone when she returned. She didn't use it.

There is no evidence that Michelle cobntacted TB to 'shut Tb up' , only that he asked her to.
There is evidence that Michelle attempted contact with TB, but as that contact was never made, it is sheer speculation . She may have wanted TB to help save him, it's possible, but it's not factual.

AS far as I know, the only thing she scrubbed was a comment on his Reddit ac , a comment he made on the uIC police post about the missing girl. His comment was 'how bundy-esque'
You will find that exhibit in exhibits list too.
Putting clothes on or taking them off, or freezing when 7, no less, police officers entered that tiny apartment is not evidence of anything except freezing. She made no attempt to stop the search nad in fact signed consent to let it go ahead. She was extremely helpful to the police and spoke with them for hours. She also told them it was within the realms of possibility that he did indeed kill YingYing.

The knife sharpening conversation took place many months before they were used to possibly hack a woman to pieces. It is not evidence that she helped him or was co-conspirator.

 

[kittythehare]

how does telling the officers that he used a half tank of petrol during his absence actually help him?

 

[altojack]

Does she visit him in jail? Will she visit him after the trial? See the picture in the last link I posted (copy above) - it is not in jail but looks like she is meeting with him and the defence lawyer perhaps.

I noticed the picture, could be Defence meeting, I don't take the hand holding as meaning anything to MZ, she has a new love in her life.

Will she visit him in prison? Not if she's got any sense she won't. She's got the freedom that she wanted, she got the divorce didn't she.

 

[kittythehare]

I noticed the picture, could be Defence meeting, I don't take the hand holding as meaning anything to MZ, she has a new love in her life.

Will she visit him in prison? Not if she's got any sense she won't. She's got the freedom that she wanted, she got the divorce didn't she.

That's his wedding photograph. Listed in exhibits, posted last night.

 

[tresir2012]

How many more witnesses are there going to be. Anyone know?

 

[AnemoneBrown]

In my opinion, it is not the telling to the officers that he used a half tank of petrol an attempt to help him. It is clarifying that she out of her own volition filled up the tank prior to leaving that does. Had she filled the tank at his request or had he done it himself would be at least an indication of further premeditation in so far as he knew he would be driving a ways to dump a body that weekend so he gassed up.

how does telling the officers that he used a half tank of petrol during his absence actually help him?

 

[tresir2012]

That's his wedding photograph. Listed in exhibits, posted last night.

The article didn't mention that. They must have just grabbed it from the exhibits list.

 

[altojack]

Does she visit him in jail? Will she visit him after the trial? See the picture in the last link I posted (copy above) - it is not in jail but looks like she is meeting with him and the defence lawyer perhaps.

Going back to the picture. I think that is the Registrar when they got married.

 

[tresir2012]

how does telling the officers that he used a half tank of petrol during his absence actually help him?

I dunno but how does she know for sure how much he used and that he didn't put additional gas in, is what I want to know. Does she actually know where he went?

 

[Raptors001]

1. But before that, Yingying Zhang's finace Xiaolin Hou wrapped up his testimony, telling jurors that losing Zhang "totally changed the track of my life." "(It) took away the most important person in my 30 years of life," he said.
   
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   Matt Masterson‏ @ByMattMasterson 7m7 minutes ago
   Court is in recess for lunch. The last couple hours of testimony has consisted of the government's main trial evidence being re-presented to jurors

But then, Hou said "What that criminal did ... was too painful for a young girl." This led to an immediate objection by the defense and a call for a mistrial, citing improper victim impact testimony

U.S. District Court Judge James Shadid swiftly denied that request, but he did strike that statement from Hou and told jurors they may not consider any of the witnesses' opinions on Christensen, his crime or his appropriate punishment

After the lunch break, we'll hear testimony from Yingying Zhang's father and brother, and possibly video testimony from her mother.

Looks like the defense strategy is mistrial and bullying the victims family.

 

[kittythehare]

Going back to the picture. I think that is the Registrar when they got married.

yeah. She didn't want anything 'fancy'.
She wore a green sweater and jeans, she testified at the guilt phase...

 

[altojack]

yeah. She didn't want anything 'fancy'.
She wore a green sweater and jeans, she testified at the guilt phase...

That's right, invited 2 friends and the parents. Just a very small do.

 

[kittythehare]

That's right, invited 2 friends and the parents. Just a very small do.[/

I kinda liked her for that common sense approach..
But, little did she know...

 

[Raptors001]

from exhibits list
wow, this photo
https://www.ilcd.uscourts.gov/sites/ilcd/files/Govt Ex 100A.pdf


look how tiny she was, such petite arms.... no match at all for such a brute

Holy shot. She is tiny.

 

[Raptors001]

from exhibits list
wow, this photo
https://www.ilcd.uscourts.gov/sites/ilcd/files/Govt Ex 100A.pdf


look how tiny she was, such petite arms.... no match at all for such a brute

She looks 13 ...

 

[dm92]

The duffle bag?

Yes. Almost 100% certain. He bought one in March, 2017, and then returned it.......

 

[Raptors001]

Ben Zigterman‏ @bzigterman 10m10 minutes ago
They also played jail phone calls of Christensen telling his wife July 2, 2017, to tell his girlfriend to not talk to anyone except their lawyers. (23/30)

Come on State of Illinois. Don't let me down. You have a second offender out there who committed a federal offense per court testimony. GO get her!

18 U.S. Code § 3 - Accessory after the fact

8 U.S. Code § 3.Accessory after the fact

"Whoever, knowing that an offense against the United States has been committed, receives, relieves, comforts or assists the offender in order to hinder or prevent his apprehension, trial or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.

Except as otherwise expressly provided by any Act of Congress, an accessory after the fact shall be imprisoned not more than one-half the maximum term of imprisonment or (notwithstanding section 3571) fined not more than one-half the maximum fine prescribed for the punishment of the principal, or both; or if the principal is punishable by life imprisonment or death, the accessory shall be imprisoned not more than 15 years."

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 684; Pub. L. 99–646, § 43, Nov. 10, 1986, 100 Stat. 3601; Pub. L. 101–647, title XXXV, § 3502, Nov. 29, 1990, 104 Stat. 4921; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, §§ 330011(h), 330016(2)(A), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2145, 2148.)

I mentioned that before, and was 'threaten with the terms and agreement'

 

[Raptors001]

1. hat juror is being taken for individual questioning with the judge. His clerk confirmed she was crying as she left court. Federal defender Elizabeth Pollock said she's never seen a juror act like that before and has "serious questions" about her ability to be fair and impartial
   
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   Matt Masterson‏ @ByMattMasterson 20m20 minutes ago
   U.S District Court Judge James Shadid immediately called for a brief recess to let the juror collect herself. We'll pick back up shortly.

This potluck

Her father, Ronggao Zhang, started crying when shown a picture of him with her at the train station on her way to the U.S. and asked if that was the last time he saw her.


“My life without her will not be complete,” he said.

Before prosecution played a video of Ms. Zhang’s mother, Lifeng Ye, Brendt Christensen appeared to be crying, grabbing a tissue and bringing it to his eyes.

I hope nobody gets conned by this.......

Bc (He) is the cause of all this.

 

[Raptors001]

You can be fair and impartial and still have feelings. That defence attorney is used to listening to brutal testimony and impact statements, the jurors aren't. Even her immovable client was crying and it was his fault.

He is a murderer, now he has to be punished. He can come up with all kinds of excuses why he did it.