Immigrants plan boycott,no work,shopping or school on may 1st

[JBean]

oh-- and i forgot to mention.. they also (in general) have no concept of SAFETY STANDARDS. they think nothing of being on a construction site and just spraying laquer thinner, or polyurethane, or whatever toxic substance, wherever they're told to do it, while everyone else is there working, with no warning, you tell them "you should be wearing a mask" and they look at you like you're from outer space. i suggest it to their manager, who says "oh, they like it. they don't want to wear masks." in other words, it's cheaper for the company to have a bunch of employees who like to get high while working, then for them to train them in basic safety measures?? also, it's a big macho thing... "i'm too much man to have to wear one of those sissy respirators.. i don't need that." apparently they couldn't care less that these highly toxic substances are going to give them cancer, or make them sick in some other way, and shorten their lives. who's going to take care of all these immigrants who are too sick to work, in the future?

You keep referring to "they" in your posts. Are you talking about the entire hispanic culture? legal immigrants? or illegal immigrants? Are your neighbors illegal or legal? Or is it just that they are hispanic that bothers you? I can show you plenty of white neighborhoods that have the same lack of pride in everything.
I live in a highly hispanic area. I mean the name of my town is San Juan Capistrano ! Many of our schools here in San Juan have a higher ratio of hispanic kids in the classroom than white.
I have no problem with the Hispanic culture influencing this area, as a matter of fact, I like it, which is why I chose to live here. What I object to is the number of illegals that live and work here. They take jobs and drain our system of money.

I do agree with you about the people that hire the illegals as being a big part of the problem. if they didn't hire them, we wouldn't have such a big issue. but they hire them to keep costs down because we don't want to pay the higher prices for their products and services that would result if they have to pay higher wages..and so it goes in viscious cycle.
I don't know what the answer is, but i do know we have to find one, because this is not working. The only thing I am sure of is that amnesty is NOT the answer.

 

[dark_shadows]

It's just a radio gimmick. they have been talking about it all week on the radio station I listen too. They are just trying to make a stand and a point. They've been very clear as to how it works.

Hi JBean,
I am glad you posted this,there is nothing misleading what the station is saying.
It is very clear what they mean.

 

[lilpony]

Ohhh, Reb, we could be neighbors! Every day there are dirty diapers strewn somewhere on my street. It's disgusting. I guess they have different customs than we do, and feeling bad about littering isn't one of them. My neighbor is Hispanic, and his entire front yard is WEEDS. Nothing but weeds. It didn't use to be, but it is now. He told me that as long as it's green, he doesn't care. Well, I had my yard professionally landscaped and I also pay a yard crew to mow, weed eat, etc. every week. Well, guess what... my neighbors weeds blow into my yard every time the wind blows, and now my yard is getting the weeds. I know that's a small complaint, but it's annoying. There are cultural changes happening that I'm having trouble accepting. I'm sure I eventually will... but right now I'm still balking.

Thanks for letting me vent!

I understand what you mean, when you say your neighbor doesn't take care of her home. My next door neighbor, is a single white woman, probably in her 30's. She does absolutely nothing around her home. Its a pig sty, and we are sick of it. Her house has never had a lawn, its all weeds, and blowing in my nice yard. You wouldn't even believe how trashy her place looks. Trash cans laying all over, trash, its sickening. We call Code everyweek, we are sick of it. I wish I could build a tall wall in between our houses, I hate it, and am so tired of it. I want to tell her off in the worst way, and tell her she's a lazy pig. But haven't done it yet! She has no pride in her home what so ever, she needs to live at the dump!
Ok now I am even madder now, after typing this, fuming as a matter of fact! :furious:

 

[dark_shadows]

I understand what you mean, when you say your neighbor doesn't take care of her home. My next door neighbor, is a single white woman, probably in her 30's. She does absolutely nothing around her home. Its a pig sty, and we are sick of it. Her house has never had a lawn, its all weeds, and blowing in my nice yard. You wouldn't even believe how trashy her place looks. Trash cans laying all over, trash, its sickening. We call Code everyweek, we are sick of it. I wish I could build a tall wall in between our houses, I hate it, and am so tired of it. I want to tell her off in the worst way, and tell her she's a lazy pig. But haven't done it yet! She has no pride in her home what so ever, she needs to live at the dump!
Ok now I am even madder now, after typing this, fuming as a matter of fact! :furious:

Very well said Lilpony:clap:

 

[HeartofTexas]

I feel your pain, Lilpony. I certainly do.

And let me just add a few more quaint things about my neighbors. Anything, and I do mean anything, they decide they don't want, they just move to the side of their house. That way they don't have to look at it. But it's the view I have from every window on that side of my house. So for the past few months, every time I open my shades, or my windows, I see a view of every piece of trash they don't want any longer but are too lazy to walk down to the street for monthly street pickup. I see old appliances, broken toys, bags of beer cans, etc.

And did I mention their friends? None of them know how to walk to the door to see if they're home. They all just sit in the driveway at any hour of the day or night and just HONK until someone comes out.

So yes, I feel your pain... and more. One day you may see me on the night's news! But I'll be in handcuffs.

 

[HeartofTexas]

And speaking of the immigration problems... here's a blurb from a Houston Chronicle Blog about Mexico possibly legalizing drugs:

I find it incredible that the Mexican Congress passed legislation that would make it legal to possess, carry and use small amounts of heroin, cocaine, marijuana and other drugs. Mexican Vicente Fox must sign off on it for the proposal to become law, and some think he will.

(snip)

Mexico wants to show the U.S. it is a worthy partner in helping to ease drug-related violence on the border. So over the past year, it has sent hundreds of police reinforcements to the border. That hasn't showed many signs of helping -- drug killings continue to be rampant. But, hey, Mexico did at least make a show of trying to help.
Now this. Let's just legalize drugs. Talk about stoking the flames. You've got protesters waving Mexican flags on American streets. You've got people singing the "Star-Spangled Banner" in Spanish. Now let's just throw another fat marijuana brick on the fire and legalize heroin.

Open a fresh pack of needles -- ah, heck, just use the old ones -- and let's get the party started.

http://blogs.chron.com/immigration/archives/2006/04/viva_mexico_now.html

 

[Details]

Yes, they do pay taxes.
The place where I work employs illegals to work in the factory. They are NOT coming into work on Mon, and the owners worked out a deal for them to work over the weekend to make up the day. My bosses DO NEED THEM. Without these people to work in the factory there would be no business.

Your bosses should be prosecuted. It's illegal to employ illegals!

I think this day is a great day to find illegals, terminate their jobs, and hopefully help them back home. And people breaking the law by hiring them need to be prosecuted, with jail time when they've knowingly done this.

Yep - prices might go up - maybe a little, maybe significantly (I'm from California - I've heard the prices will skyrocket threat before, and I've seen it prove false before - when we had the Regan amnesty) - but it's just as simple as that it's illegal to hire illegals, and companies should be required to follow the laws of our country, and pay minimum wages, use reasonable safety standards (which don't just apply to their employees - those standards that are being ignored make things less safe for anyone nearby as well). Then there's the citizens we should be sympathetic to who can't get a starter level job because the employer wants an illegal to avoid the labor laws in this country.

 

[Txmom]

As you can tell I also live in Texas. I live in the central part of the state. I really get tired of hearing how much money the Mexican illegals put into our economy. I know for a fact that when the illegals get paid, they go to Western Union and send it back "home" to the family, whether its wife and children, or mom and whomever.

Many of the families go to Mexico every month to buy groceries and etc and bring them back with them into the state. You can bring back packaged foods, not fresh. Toilet paper, cleaners, toothpaste,etc... So we have US monies being spent in Mexico and energizing their economy and not our local economy.

In our county the taxes have gotten so bad that I have decided to sell my house and move (I have lived here for 26 years), as a single parent I cannot keep up with the increase. When looking at my tax bill, 3/4 ths of it is for local school taxes. And according to the state we are a "rich district". So each year 3-4 million are sent outside of the county. You also need to understand that we only have approx 4,000 students (elem,middle and High) in the whole county. We are a rural county.

We have NO industy in this county. The largest employers are the school district, the hospital, Walmart and the grocery store. If the county wanted to reduce its school taxes to avoid sending monies out of the county, it almost takes an act of congress to do it.

I have seen it over and over again, 2-4 families living in one house. So the owner of the house, mobile home, etc., only pays a certain amount in taxes to the county. But that amount in reality doesnt cover the amount of people that are living in the house.

Also in our county the Hispanic girls get pregnant at a very early age, starting around 12. Of course they are on Medicaid, and etc. They then are on food stamps, and everything else. Usually they have another child within 2 years, and continue until they have about 5 or 6. They never get off of the government handouts.

I also work at the hosptial, since the illegals have no medical, we provide everything free. Mind you I cant afford the insurance that is provided to the employees, and I have to pay for everything for my children and myself out of my pocket. Most of the stabbings, domestic violence etc that appear at the hospital is from the illegals, and yes I can prove it. And their medical is provided free!!

When one of the apartment complexes wanted to enlarge, the people that lived around that complex complained and was able to prove that the cops came 2 times a day/night everyday 7 days a week because of the noise and violence. The city voted not to allow them to enlarge. Matter of fact, the city condemmed the complex.

Sorry to gripe, but Im tired of hearing how the illegals want their rights. When my great grandparents came here, they did it the legal way. Why cant they do it the same way? Why do they think that they are special.

 

[txsvicki]

Oh do I hope that all the Hispanic kids stay home on Monday here. The school will lose millions in their daily funding due to the abscences. I am so mad at the school system, I may keep mine home too, and I'm not Hispanic. This whole town would shut down if all Hispanic people stay home on Monday.

 

[dark_shadows]

You keep referring to "they" in your posts. Are you talking about the entire hispanic culture? legal immigrants? or illegal immigrants? Are your neighbors illegal or legal? Or is it just that they are hispanic that bothers you? I can show you plenty of white neighborhoods that have the same lack of pride in everything.
I live in a highly hispanic area. I mean the name of my town is San Juan Capistrano ! Many of our schools here in San Juan have a higher ratio of hispanic kids in the classroom than white.
I have no problem with the Hispanic culture influencing this area, as a matter of fact, I like it, which is why I chose to live here. What I object to is the number of illegals that live and work here. They take jobs and drain our system of money.

I do agree with you about the people that hire the illegals as being a big part of the problem. if they didn't hire them, we wouldn't have such a big issue. but they hire them to keep costs down because we don't want to pay the higher prices for their products and services that would result if they have to pay higher wages..and so it goes in viscious cycle.
I don't know what the answer is, but i do know we have to find one, because this is not working. The only thing I am sure of is that amnesty is NOT the answer.

Thanks JBean for the great post.I will not participate in the boycott,like I said,I am going to shop on monday.


"The one absolutely certain way of bringing this nation to ruin, or preventing all possibility of its continuing as a nation at all, would be to permit it to become a tangle of squabbling nationalities."- President Teddy Roosevelt







“A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group in America has not yet become an American, and the man who goes among you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the Stars and Stripes.”
-Woodrow Wilson-

 

[nanandjim]

...Glad to hear they pay taxes, as they are utilizing the same things my taxes pay for.

I believe that a small minority of immigrants pay taxes. I think that I heard that immigrants also take advantage of every government program that there is. So, a lot of our tax dollars are being spent on immigrants (legal and illegal).

I have heard from my dentist and eye doctor and doctor's office that many people in our country (who cannot speak the language) certainly know about every free program available, much more so than the people who were born and raised here.

If the immigrants want to boycott, let them. That just means that the roads will be less crowded for the rest of us. I just wish the media would not cover the event. Without the media, it would mean very little, IMO.

 

[spclk]

Let me first say that I support tightening our borders AND a Guest worker program. I work in the employment industry. A few facts that many Americans don't know:

1) There is NO WAY to verify that immigrants are legal. The law states that we must take 2 forms of ID - they must look authenticate. Well guess what? They do look authentic, even the ones they buy. The Social Security Administration will not veryify a SS# UNTIL you put them to work. Most workers have numbers that are valid, and match the name and birthdate on the card. Short of DNA testing, it is impossible to determine if they are who their card says they are.

2) There are between 11 & 15 million illegal immigrants in the US - it would be impossible to deport them all. It would cripple our economy and put MANY businesses out of business. I can only speak for my company, but NONE of our employees make minimum wage. We employ many hispanics and pay them the same wage we offer any employee. We are a staffing firm and every employee is offered insurance & benefits (very unusual in our industry).

3) They must have taxes taken from their check and social security. The last figure I heard was that they contribute over $7 billion to Social Security. These are benefits that they cannot claim. If we do away with that, where will our Social Security benefits be? They are in bad enough shape now.

4) I would happily give any of these jobs to "Americans" if they would do them. I could offer them $15 an hour and they still do not want to do jobs that are dirty, require hard labor or require lots of overtime. Thus, the need for those people who will.

5) If this program goes through, it is my understanding that workers will be required to obtain documents of who they really are (many are using alias's). This will allow us to deport any who commit crimes, be fingerprinted for our databases as a way of documenting who they are, require them to learn English, pay taxes, be tested for diseases as well as innoculated for them and continue to contribute to a nation that greatly needs them.

I greatly encourage all Americans to look at the facts, READ the proposed Immigration Reform Act and then decide for yourselves if it makes sense. Those americans who believe that we can just make this go away are wrong. They are here, we cannot feasibly "send them home", so why not put a program into place that requires them to become law abiding citizens, contribute to our economy while sending those that do not comply back to their countries.

 

[JBean]

Your realities are correct and I agree with all but #4.

As i said in my other posts, I don't know what the answer is, but so far we haven't found it.

 

[fundiva]

I saw on a 60 Minutes or some such program about a month ago that stated that Mexico's second largest income was money being sent back to Mexico by illegal aliens to their relatives from the U.S. Without that money their economy could not make it. Nice to know we're financing two countries......

 

[spclk]

One thing I forgot to add...What about the children of illegal immigrants? Those that were born here are US citizens. What are we supposed to do with them when Mom & Dad are deported? There are many facets of this issue, that make it a very difficult issue to resolve. It certainly is not as black & white as many americans believe.

 

[HeartofTexas]

I would like to mention, too, what the influx of illegal immigrants has done to some of the school systems in the U.S. Living in Dallas, I will specifically mention the ethnic composition of the Dallas Independent School District (DISD). Here are the numbers:

Hispanic

101,296​

62.5%​

African American

49,890​

31.0%​

White

8,774​

5.4%​

Asian

1,600​

0.9%​

American Indian

412​

0.2%​

Please note what the percentage of white students is. There has been such massive "white flight" from DISD that the percentage of white students attending DISD has dwindled down to a mere 5.4%. I find this beyond shocking and an indication of a growing problem that needs some kind of solution. I truly do not have a clue what that solution is but I do know the problem is growing each year.

 

[JBean]

One thing I forgot to add...What about the children of illegal immigrants? Those that were born here are US citizens. What are we supposed to do with them when Mom & Dad are deported? There are many facets of this issue, that make it a very difficult issue to resolve. It certainly is not as black & white as many americans believe.

OH I agree.this is certainly not black and white, it is even more convoluted than your post describes.
So, do you think a boycott is a good strategy?

 

[shopper]

One thing I forgot to add...What about the children of illegal immigrants? Those that were born here are US citizens. What are we supposed to do with them when Mom & Dad are deported? There are many facets of this issue, that make it a very difficult issue to resolve. It certainly is not as black & white as many americans believe.

Let them/make them take their kids with them and raise them in Mexico? Just because they were born here, they HAVE to stay here? I mean, is that the law?

 

[Details]

I don't think children of illegal immigrants should be automatic US citizens - but even if they are (can't retroactively change the law, but I really want to see that law changed for the future), that doesn't make them somehow special and immune or unable to live where their parents lived and were brought up.

Yep, it'll be sad for them to leave their friends and the home they've been raised in - but that's not really a problem we created, it's a problem their parents created! It's sad when you imprison a child's parents too, and they have to go off to a home - but it doesn't mean that a criminal who is a parent gets off for sake of their child - right? You watch Cops, you see it all the time, the poor kid torn apart because their mommy or daddy, possibly only parent is being taken to jail (much worse than just having to move) - but that's something the parent created by breaking the law - the cops aren't at fault!

The issue does have some complexities, but some of them are false. A lot of those jobs 'Americans just won't do' will turn out to be jobs that Americans are fine with doing, at minimum wage, with reasonable, legal safety laws enforced (one reason some employers don't employ citizens - not so much for wages, as for safety costs). Not to mention the illegals who are doing more valued jobs that pay well - taking those jobs away from citizens who need them. Until the laws are enforced, until we really try to make this work, we won't know what parts of the need for outside labor (as properly protected guest workers - not citizens) are real, and what parts are manufactured by businesses that just want to increase their profit margin.

 

[Nore]

I understand what you mean, when you say your neighbor doesn't take care of her home. My next door neighbor, is a single white woman, probably in her 30's. She does absolutely nothing around her home. Its a pig sty, and we are sick of it. Her house has never had a lawn, its all weeds, and blowing in my nice yard. You wouldn't even believe how trashy her place looks. Trash cans laying all over, trash, its sickening. We call Code everyweek, we are sick of it. I wish I could build a tall wall in between our houses, I hate it, and am so tired of it. I want to tell her off in the worst way, and tell her she's a lazy pig. But haven't done it yet! She has no pride in her home what so ever, she needs to live at the dump!
Ok now I am even madder now, after typing this, fuming as a matter of fact! :furious:

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llpony,I have the same thing.I'm waiting for the City to cite them.They will have to clean it up or City will do it and bill them~yep,Americans.