Imagine if the search dogs had not been called off that night and had found the girls that night. I wonder then if they would’ve continued on following the scent directly to the house of the man accused of killing them if their scent was on him at all.
Dear @SMK777,
Speculating...Perhaps the conservation officer didn't know RA and didn't get a name when they spoke because it was prior to the girls being found? The officer, and all others, were intently involved in a search for lost or injured children, not a killer. The conservation officer then gave the physical description of RA to LE at a later time, which became part of the sketch of OBG. Again pure speculation on my part.
If he had no blood on him and used something to get rid of DNA at the crime scene, possibly, the scent could have been lost. If he crossed the River back, the scent could have been lost.
wibc.com
Thank you, see, this is the kind of very basic question I like and am eager to know if there is an answer. Did witnesses AGAIN see/recognize and report the persons they saw on the trails on Feb. 13?
www.cbsnews.com
I do think this is comparing apples to oranges, to a certain extent. We don't have a lot of details on either case. State laws and the preference for the judge can effect how these things are handled; the arrested individual's state of mind can also come into play. For all we know, someone could have represented RA on that day in court, but was never officially assigned to his case (happens all the time). RA could have refused counsel that day and stated he would find his own attorney.I was reading an article about the UVA student murders & this stood out to me (BBM):
And that goes back to what I said earlier in this discussion about RA. These families, friends & the community have waited for an arrest for over five years. This case, imo, is a big deal.
Even though RA indicated early on that he would secure his own attorney, Indiana laws say:
I would think that surely, if any case needs it, this one does. Why did the initial judge not appoint RA counsel until he had secured his own? (Which we now know he wasn't able to do & requested court-appointed counsel anyway.) RA went without counsel for many days (can't remember how many offhand but it was more than a week), was transferred between prisons, etc. In order to provide justice, RA should have had counsel by his side from day one. Imo.
I really don't want a technicality like this to weaken the case but I think the defense will have some valid points to raise about possible questionable actions by the court like letting an accused murdered in a high-profile case to go without counsel for so long.
I remain shocked the court was so lax about it.
MOO.
I added hyperlinks above but am also linking the referenced websites here:
UVA shooting suspect shot one victim while he was sleeping, appeared to be "aiming at certain people," prosecutor says
A judge ordered the suspect held without bond and appointed a public defender to represent him until he secures private counsel.
Right to Counsel & Complaint Procedures
www.in.gov
This line jumped out at me:A "Complex" Case - ISP Superintendent Doug Carter Talks Richard Allen, Kegan Kline, "Police Sources" & What You Should Be Allowed to Know
DELPHI, Ind. -- Richard Allen, Kegan Kline, public documents and "police sources" - Superintendent Doug Carter with Indiana State Police covered it all when discussing the 2017 Delphi murders investigation Tuesday.
BBM. I can't help but think Carter is referencing the forgotten statement article.
"That led to a discussion about the reporting since the announcement of Richard Allen’s arrest. Several news outlets have published articles about the Delphi murders investigation, citing anonymous sources and even “police sources.” Whether or not those stories turn out to be true, time will tell. But at this moment in time, it’s frustrating for Carter."
"So, whoever this ‘source’ is, I doubt very seriously that individual is a part of the core team.”
“This case is unlikely any that I’ve seen in an almost 40-year career,” Superintendent Carter tells WIBC’s Hammer & Nigel, “there are so many different tentacles to this. Its very complex.”
MOO, well RA has blue eyes, so if the murderer was accurately described as "not having blue eyes", then RA is obviously the wrong guy. It will be interesting to see what actual evidence they have on him (if they ever unseal the search warrant.) MOO
I bolded your last sentence. It must have to do with KAK I think? Even if RA is a random find and not directly from the KAK investigation, the search for a connection could still be going on. LE *really* thought KAK was connected to make the Anthony Shots announcement and link the tip line and search the river for 5 weeks in August. I don't doubt with RA in custody they are working backwards to connect the dots if they can!
www.wishtv.com
OMGBackground on Allen's attorneys:
What experience do court-appointed lawyers in Delphi murders case bring to the table?
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — After learning this week that the judge in the Delphi murders case appointed two public defenders for suspect Richard Allen, I-Team 8 started looking into the cases that Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi have handled. Richard Allen, 50, was arrested on Oct. 28 and the...
Sounds like the prosecution will be kept on their toes. JMOBackground on Allen's attorneys:
What experience do court-appointed lawyers in Delphi murders case bring to the table?
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — After learning this week that the judge in the Delphi murders case appointed two public defenders for suspect Richard Allen, I-Team 8 started looking into the cases that Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi have handled. Richard Allen, 50, was arrested on Oct. 28 and the...
Reading this makes me more aware of how much serious crime there is. Don’t want to assume guilt on anyones’s part. Maybe this is the reminder I need that everyone is assumed innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. I would like to begin following Andrew Baldwin’s cases to see how he represents clients. Thank you @MassGuy for posting this article.Background on Allen's attorneys:
What experience do court-appointed lawyers in Delphi murders case bring to the table?
INDIANAPOLIS (WISH) — After learning this week that the judge in the Delphi murders case appointed two public defenders for suspect Richard Allen, I-Team 8 started looking into the cases that Andrew Baldwin and Bradley Rozzi have handled. Richard Allen, 50, was arrested on Oct. 28 and the...
