Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, and Liberty (Libby) German, 14/The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #86

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For those who haven't seen these pics of TB, they're from his photo gallery on classmates.com.
(Kearsley High School, Flint, MI - Class of '83)

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LE will not take the death penalty off the table, in the Delphi Case, if it exists there.
MOO.

I don't expect MO or IN to negotiate the death penalty either. The crimes are too heinous. Just hoping his attorney can impress on him that cooperating with police is a good idea.
 
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The pictures of this man from his younger years, and the casual photos posted (not the mug shot) really drive home the fact that a monster can really look perfectly normal. You'd think I wouldn't need that reminder after being on this site for a few years, but wow.
 
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The pictures of this man from his younger years, and the casual photos posted (not the mug shot) really drive home the fact that a monster can really look perfectly normal. You'd think I wouldn't need that reminder after being on this site for a few years, but wow.
I was just about to post the same thing. He looks like someone’s fun uncle in some pics or the guy at work who’s always in a good mood and smiling or the guy who holds the door for you.
Then you see that scowl in other pics and it’s chilling. He looks like different people. Two different facades.
I’m wondering when he shaved his head?
 
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That is one of the traits (to me) that makes him reminiscent of BTK. BTK was apparently a real stickler for rules and violations and worked in animal control.
Agree. Seems like he sees himself as the "punisher": the enforcer of rules. His campaign to "expose" folks with expired tags on Twitter... his road rage incident trying to punish others for not driving the way he thinks they should... if you go to the Calvary Chapel website, they're quite fundamentalist and have a long list of "sins" and beliefs they "refuse" to tolerate... I think this all may go back to his childhood somehow. You all keep mentioning Rader but this really really reminds me of Joseph DeAngelo too. And I can certainly see this type wanting to "punish" a couple of carefree young girls he runs across who he may have perceived as showing him disrespect somehow. All speculation IMHO.
 
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TB is not BG. Neither was RL or DN.
 
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Very odd, yes.
If you are WS member, you always find connections, which aren't connections really: Of all cars TB is posting a pic of a Nissan Altima, silver colored. Didn't we search for a car like this in case Missy B? Certainly not with a MO-tag. ;)
Thank you. Yes we did in the Bevers case, but the tag was so blurry I don't believe it was ever determined by WS and not known or released by LE. I did notice in the BK filing that the new 2016 Chevy Impala lease of $393/month began in April 2016, the same month of the Missy Bevers murder. If TB was working as a salesman (insurance?) he would want a nice car; the 2012 VW Passat would then belong to the wife. He did report wage income in 2016 on the BK.

What is it with Mondays? Delphi, Bevers, Catholic Supply...
 
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just bringing the below post from Thread 1, page 1 forward:

(posted by Ticya on Feb 22, 2017)

Anyone with information about this case, no matter how insignificant, is encouraged to call the Delphi Homicide Investigation Tip Line at (844) 459-5786.

Information can also be reported by calling the Indiana State Police at (800) 382-7537, or the Carroll County Sheriff’s Department at (765) 564-2413.

Information can also be emailed to [email protected]

video of press conference of 02/22/17: https://www.facebook.com/NewsCenter1...4728963476130/

Audio loop http://www.in.gov/isp/files/Delphi_male_voice_loop.mp3

SGT. KIM RILEY, INDIANA STATE POLICE (via telephone) with CNN re: three posts in the image on the bridge

RILEY: We have looked at it. We`ve blown it up. As a matter of fact, that was done right after we got the picture -- we had access to the picture. And if you look at the far end of the tracks, it looks like there`s two people actually standing there. But if you blow the picture up, you`ll notice that there`s actually three poles there to keep cars from being -- trying to drive across the bridge. So that`s the marks that you see at the end of the tracks.

Teen used cell phone to capture chilling audio of her killer: Police
 
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And this link from the media thread:

Transcript of 2/22/17 Press Conference

Imgur: The magic of the Internet

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My personal comments/what stood out to me: page 2, paragraph 2 (first 5 sentences) Two of which are “and if you are watching, we’ll find you!” Followed by “Who’s next?”

Then page 3 (FBI BAU ) asks people to report any tips (eg.) Unaccounted whereabouts. Absent from work? Not answering phone during the time period? Changed hair color? Changed appearance? Discarded clothing? Following media closely?
 
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TB is not BG. Neither was RL or DN.
Link to the fact? Or is this your opinion.

Please share why you rule him out. I rule him in, but I admit my eagerness to solve the crime could very well be clouding my thinking. Clue us in on why you think he's not BG.

jmo
 
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TB is not BG. Neither was RL or DN.
You've stated this before and we're all wonder your reasoning behind it! Do you have links, or is it just your own opinion? It's always a good idea to clarify MOO or IMO if there's nothing to back it up except opinion- which we're all entitled to have, just that if it's not clearly stated as such it makes us wonder if we're missing info! Thanks!
 
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TB is not BG. Neither was RL or DN.
I tend to agree with you. I do think he's guilty of more than we know right now, but I'm just not seeing any connection at this time to Delphi. He looks similar, but there's nothing yet to show that he would have been in that area enough to know the bridge and the subsequent terrain around it. Whoever BG is, he knew where to lead the girls and how to get around that area. I've always felt BG was someone who grew up in Delphi and had prior roots there, but no ties to the area any longer.
 
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I doesn't take a genius to figure out that park . when you have a view from above, you can easily see where a good spot could be. Also we really dont know what relationship he could have with the high bridge.MOO
 
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on the TB thread some one read on SM that he enjoys visiting parks. Visits a park in St Louis on a monthly basis..such good sleuthers here..MOO . likes taking long drives and short walks.

Creepo.

MOO
 
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Wonder what "business" the business card was for?

Catholic Supply Shooting Suspect Thomas Bruce Left Business Card at Mall

Thomas Bruce left his literal calling card in the west county shopping center where he was accused of carrying out a horrific sexual assault and murder, authorities say.
The 53-year-old, who was taken into custody last week for the Catholic Supply shooting, gave his card to a woman at a nearby business, according to St. Louis County police.
That card turned out to be an "intricate part of solving this case," Sgt. Shawn McGuire told the RFT....
...Detectives were originally stumped by the shocking attack at the store, which sells religious items. Although the shopping center sits off of a busy stretch of Manchester Road near Ballwin, police could not find any nearby surveillance footage. They did have fairly detailed descriptions of the gunman's clothing and hat, which they distributed widely.
When police returned to scour the strip mall again, a woman at another business remembered Bruce had given her his card, McGuire says.
"That someone spoke to detectives on their 2nd canvass of the area, and she remembered the business card and subject after we released the photos of the hat and jacket of the suspect," McGuire says.
 
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So he must have been wearing the hat and jacket at Hot Shots?
 
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