Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #105

[sunshineray]

Someone mentioned that a recent program had very clear audio without those weird noises. Can someone post the thing again, if it is an allowed source, with the timestamp of that audio?

It was the ID channel program Still a Mystery - "Down the Hill"

 

[MDATCA]

Someone mentioned that a recent program had very clear audio without those weird noises. Can someone post the thing again, if it is an allowed source, with the timestamp of that audio?

According to BP Libby did not have pockets. It may be she tucked it into her bra or waistband.

 

[Charlot123]

Where is the idea coming from that Libby was the target?

Are you quoting me? Where did I say that Libby was the target?

 

[MDATCA]

I guess because there were 2 of them and either one may have been the target with the 2nd being killed as a witness to what happened. Motive for the initial targetting is what is being speculated about IMO.

I'm speculating it's speculation, is what I'm guessing.

I juggled the idea that he did not see Libby as she was at the end of the bridge and may have not been as visible especially as he focused on Abby moving unsure and smaller being an easy target. Maybe he did not notice Libby until after he already made a move on Abby and that left him no choice but to kill them both.

 

[susiQ]

I am on the fence. But 60% for this theory.

All Delphi was looking for girls. They are not heartless people. And now, $200K is a lot of money. And yet, no one is providing “that” tip.

People might be simply scared. Not for themselves. For their kids. Because they saw what happened to Libby (and, I understand, even Abby who was a witness).

Yes, whether for themselves, other loved ones and ESPECIALLY if they have children. Most of us would rather die than see a hair harmed on one of our children or grandchildren. They are so much in our hearts.

 

[susiQ]

There is another deep dark evil world of child and grooming too, which is equally worrying IMO. Not that anything regarding SM has ever been hinted at except the infamous "know what your kids are up to" way back in the beginning of the case. Once you start delving it is terrifying. AJMO.

Yes, another horrible, horrible thing. However, I don't believe this was the motive in this case.

 

[cluciano63]

Are you quoting me? Where did I say that Libby was the target?

In saying Abhy was a witness...if that was the right post I quoted. Why would one girl be a witness?

 

[Cutiekitty]

In saying Abhy was a witness...if that was the right post I quoted. Why would one girl be a witness?

Because they weren’t killed simultaneously?

 

[BNA]

Which podcast? Thanks.

I do not know the name of the podcast. Somebody posted it on one of the threads very recently. It was an interview in a restaurant/diner.

 

[sunshineray]

It was the ID channel program Still a Mystery - "Down the Hill"

I don't know if this will work for anyone. This wa the program where the audio of "Guys...get down the hill" was much improved.

Still A Mystery | Watch Full Episodes & More! - Investigation Discovery

 

[BNA]

She said that she saw herself as the father character in the movie. She was responding to a question regarding what she thought should happen to BG once caught.

Was that interview before or after 4/22? It is the one I was referring to. Thanks.

 

[Cutiekitty]

Was that interview before or after 4/22? It is the one I was referring to. Thanks.

Before. It was filmed in July 2018 and posted in September 2018 (I think)

 

[PaulaDC]

I do not know the name of the podcast. Somebody posted it on one of the threads very recently. It was an interview in a restaurant/diner.

Look up Virtually a Detective on YouTube.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

I do not know the name of the podcast. Somebody posted it on one of the threads very recently. It was an interview in a restaurant/diner.

That sounds like the James Renner episode with KG and JR in Diner

Ps. Tricia still (quite rightly) checking a few things out re posting the Renner links here but hopefully we can soon

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Was that interview before or after 4/22? It is the one I was referring to. Thanks.

2018 Iirc

 

[BNA]

Thanks, all, for the timely responses. This is helpful to me, as I lost some sleep thinking about it overnight. Not tonight.

 

[Deleted member 278]

DBM

 

[Cutiekitty]

Does anyone know where this podcast is?

It’s an interview by Renner. I saw it on YouTube. There are 10 episodes. It’s in VR format.

 

[cluciano63]

Because they weren’t killed simultaneously?

We have no info at all about their deaths.

 

[Charlot123]

In saying Abhy was a witness...if that was the right post I quoted. Why would one girl be a witness?

I was responding to @susiQ's post. Unless I misunderstood it?

A counter-question. $ 200 K is a lot of money. And for this sum, the LE can not find the person willing to give "that one tip". What does it tell to you?

I think it is a cold case. RIP Libby and Abby and I hope that one day, justice will find you.