LE have also said he may be a combination of both sketches, so it's open to interpretation. There have been other quotes regarding the sketches that are equally ambiguous. But thank you for pointing this out
I don't think he had as long as that because of the time of the FSG sighting of him at 2.52 near the meeting place and again at 3.02 at Freedom Bridge. MOO.So the theory of 15 minutes in the crime scene itself is more reasonable to me (vs 15 minutes to get them to the crime scene, murder them, and then be sighted on the trails or cemetery), although I do think it’s still shorter than what I think is probable. (But certainly *possible* to kill 2 girls once at the crime scene in 15 minutes.)
At this point, I think BG probably had around 40/ 45 minutes with the girls. Based on the 2:05(ish) photo of Abby, the 2:30 video, and the 3:15 (ish) calls from DG to Libby falling flat. I also think it’s very possible that BG was still at the CS when he heard Libby’s phone ring and hightailed it out of there. Why he didn’t grab the phone I don’t know- other than some reason related to the fact he panicked and had to get out of there (maybe he couldn’t find it quickly enough or he knew the phone would be traceable if he took it). But he left the phone regardless of how long he’d had with them, so I guess that part of my theory is neither here nor there
MOO.
I have always wondered about FSG. Does LE have his information? Did they verify it? Did FSG help in the search? This guy has gotten my attention more than a few times. I wish someone can just fill in the blanks here. MOO
Yes. Yes. Not AFAIK. He is very well known and has been interviewed in MSM several times about trail cams. He is 70+. BG is 18-40.
Thank you!
FinePrint posted a trail interview link yesterday, post 306 on this thread.
I think you're right. What do they do if it doesn't work? And does it mean they have no DNA? :-(
I tend to believe the most likely scenario is that the killer did this all very quickly. From the south end of the bridge to the crime scene and could very well be 15 minutes, especially if the reason the girls crossed the creek trying to run from the killer.So the theory of 15 minutes in the crime scene itself is more reasonable to me (vs 15 minutes to get them to the crime scene, murder them, and then be sighted on the trails or cemetery), although I do think it’s still shorter than what I think is probable. (But certainly *possible* to kill 2 girls once at the crime scene in 15 minutes.)
At this point, I think BG probably had around 40/ 45 minutes with the girls. Based on the 2:05(ish) photo of Abby, the 2:30 video, and the 3:15 (ish) calls from DG to Libby falling flat. I also think it’s very possible that BG was still at the CS when he heard Libby’s phone ring and hightailed it out of there. Why he didn’t grab the phone I don’t know- other than some reason related to the fact he panicked and had to get out of there (maybe he couldn’t find it quickly enough or he knew the phone would be traceable if he took it). But he left the phone regardless of how long he’d had with them, so I guess that part of my theory is neither here nor there
MOO.
I believe it likely went down in approximately 15 minutes. But probably because of the two sketches that don't look anything alike I'm starting to question the witness sightings. Are ALL of these sightings of the killer? Are none of the killer and he walked through trees to the CPS and bypassed the trail? Are just one or two of the sightings of the actual killer? It's been shown that witnesses can't remember what a person was wearing hours or even minutes later and this is when they may be focused on the person in the act of a robbery. Why would these witnesses pay any more attention to our killer if they had no reason to suspect him of anything? He's just another person on the trail. I suppose his pants could still have been wet, but how close were these witnesses? One of them was apparently close enough to note his eyes were not blue? I can't tell you what the eye color was of any of the last 5 persons I was close to and this person noticed the eyes?
That question pops up in mind every now and then. LE have alluded to having DNA, if not directly stating so. BUT do they have or have identified the killer's DNA? 1st Sgt Holeman stated in an interview that touch DNA is a very powerful item. So does LE have many different profiles and more than one have not been identified?
I know, my brain is going in twenty different directions trying to figure this out. The only times I feel confident in, based on family phone records, are that the girls were dropped off at 1:38, and the first unanswered phone call was at 3:11.
I think we can say the murder happened within 15-30 minutes or so between 2.15 and 2.45 based on SC time 2.07, recording time 2.30, CME on bridge at 2.49, BG sighting 2.52. The autopsy will not have the TOD as close as that IMO.
I still think ‘close to you’ is very subjective. Close to you is so all encompassing. It could be a cousin, a friend, a neighbor, a fellow worker etc. I think MOO that this statement along with others was designed to shake the perp and cause him to react and then someone noticing the reaction. If they have someone in the sights, and have dna, I would think they would look for a tissue in the trash type thing and this would be coming to a close soon. But, they are still asking, at least n last presser, does anyone recognize the person in the vid. I hope I am wrong, I hope they catch him today, but logically to me it doesn’t seem they have a “laser focus” (borrowing the phrase from the pike co rhoden case)
Can someone point me to the source (link to MSM) of these sightings? Where did FSG see the BG at 2:52? These times seem very precise and I’m wondering how FSG can be certain of the times.
