Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #135

[minazoe]

well, everyone knows what's up..everyone knows what's going on with JBC being looked at...and not one peep..not one word about keeping things quiet..there isn't a connection so far..etc..SILENCE.

and Im sure they play down everything, especially at a critical juncture and they know Kelsi is out there talking. so they don't want sorrow and disappointment..but they also don't want to throw red meat... and have a circus...when this guy could be a key person in a lot of unsolved stuff.

mOO

 

[taylorss]

well, everyone knows what's up..everyone knows what's going on with JBC being looked at...and not one peep..not one word about keeping things quiet..there isn't a connection so far..etc..SILENCE.

and Im sure they play down everything, especially at a critical juncture and they know Kelsi is out there talking. so they don't want sorrow and disappointment..but they also don't want to throw red meat... and have a circus...when this guy could be a key person in a lot of unsolved stuff.

mOO

What do you think it all means?

in the beginning MP was quoted as saying it looked pretty good or something like that - mild optimism IIRC. Then it’s been a lot of silence since around then.

 

[Angelcat13]

This may have already been discussed, but it just jumped into my head while reading several of the posts about DNA. Very early in the investigation, RL made statements about someone having trespassed on his property and I wondered if fingerprints and/or DNA was collected at that time. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't, since both incidents were likely viewed as being minor. I went back and found that the two reported incidents occurred in 2014 - so not likely connected to the murders.

But it does make me wonder if there were any crimes (such as breaking and entering, trespassing, etc) committed immediately before or after the murders where fingerprints and/or DNA may have been collected. Although it wouldn't be useful in tying someone to the murders, it could possibly put someone in the area that has claimed not to have been.

 

[MistyWaters]

Kelsi’s recent twitter posts seem to reflect a general frustration of SMs optimism regarding JBC. Here’s one, a one line summary of last night’s TikTok.

Kelsi German Retweeted
Andrea | The Crime Sheet@TheCrimeSheet
·
21h

Putting an end to #Delphi Rumors:
@SarahETurney
is live with
@libertyg_sister
on TikTok right now — main takeaway right now: The case is NOT solved, there are NO new suspects
#justiceforabbyandlibby
https://twitter.com/libertyg_sister?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

ETA - she retweeted this link as well, regarding another case. Interesting, but sad there’s such sick people out there who’d take advantage of real life tragedy in this way. JMO
Could social media trolls get charged with interfering in Tristyn Bailey case?

 

[stattlich1]

Once upon a time a guy funneled info to LE. Some who provided said info were eager for arrest, which many times didn't occur, at least on their timeline.

Hence the wording "as a result of an ongoing investigation".

I attempt to avoid single-track thinking. It is quite possible various criminal activities are being investigated, possibly including the Delphi case, possibly other murder cases, maybe cartel, drug networks, child trafficking, firearms, or a whole host of other possibilities.

JBC, regardless, is a criminal with potential value to LE in numerous domains. He may be BG, or not. He may know BG or not. He may be an otherwise valuable asset to LE.

Only time will tell.

For me personally, he's the closest to what I think a BG would be, the closest I've seen in 4 years. But I ain't bettin' the farm on it.

 

[JnRyan]

I would agree. It’s really a shame there weren’t surveillance cameras all around the trails and bridge, and it’s worrisome that they may not be able to exclude JBC nor label him as an official suspect— neither one.

There weren't cameras, plural, in the area. I believe it was the YouTube'r Gray Hughes that pointed out a camera on the corner of the nearby storage business. But it wasn't on the trails and may have only captured the area near the now demolished CPS building. I don't recall LE EVER mentioning the camera or if it was operational that day. There has been some speculation that it might have captured that mysterious vehicle parked at the CPS building that LE mentioned during the April 2019 PC.

 

[StarryStarryNight]

It’s possible that the reason LE has not given KG encouraging information about the JBC investigation has more to do with them and less to do with JBC. In other words, LE may be 95% sure JBC is the Delphi killer, but they can’t put him in Delphi or at the trails on Feb 13 2017.

 

[taylorss]

It’s possible that the reason LE has not given KG encouraging information about the JBC investigation has more to do with them and less to do with JBC. In other words, LE may be 95% sure JBC is the Delphi killer, but they can’t put him in Delphi or at the trails on Feb 13 2017.

hopefully it’s something like that, altho i have to think LE & Kelsi coordinated on her public comments IMO

at least the arrest of BJC means an evil child-predator is off the street. Even if he’s not A&L’s perp, he’s gotta be the perp for plenty of other victims IMO

 

[SMK777]

It’s possible that the reason LE has not given KG encouraging information about the JBC investigation has more to do with them and less to do with JBC. In other words, LE may be 95% sure JBC is the Delphi killer, but they can’t put him in Delphi or at the trails on Feb 13 2017.

That’s true. They certainly wouldn’t want to put Kelsi and the families of the girls in a position of being encouraged, and talking openly about the possibility that the case may be solved, only to be unable to finish things up.

There’s a good chance that at this point they’re not telling Kelsi any more than they’re telling the media or public in general. Knowing she does podcasts as an advocate for her little sister, they wouldn’t want to create a powder keg situation.

BBM: In a situation like that, how could they get out of the impasse?

 

[MistyWaters]

It’s possible that the reason LE has not given KG encouraging information about the JBC investigation has more to do with them and less to do with JBC. In other words, LE may be 95% sure JBC is the Delphi killer, but they can’t put him in Delphi or at the trails on Feb 13 2017.

LE always claim they allow the evidence to point towards a suspect, not the other way around, so if they don’t have that evidence I think they’d be unable to be sure.

If we knew the other 3 to 5 POI’s referred to around the 4th anniversary we might also think they’re even stronger possibilities.

I don’t think we can read anything into their silence one way or another. Meanwhile JBC isn’t going anywhere, that’s for sure.

 

[SMK777]

altho i have to think LE & Kelsi coordinated on her public comments IMO

But perhaps they wouldn’t want to encourage K if they’re not ready to announce yet. I’m still hoping it’s him — this case needs resolution and the 2 victims need and deserve justice.

Of course if it’s not him, it’ll be depressing and frustrating, but will have to be accepted.

 

[SMK777]

If we knew the other 3 to 5 POI’s referred to around the 4th anniversary we might also think they’re even stronger possibilities.

You mean other new ones, not Eldridge and DN and the others who were POI?

 

[helpfulcharlie]

Once upon a time a guy funneled info to LE. Some who provided said info were eager for arrest, which many times didn't occur, at least on their timeline.

Hence the wording "as a result of an ongoing investigation".

I attempt to avoid single-track thinking. It is quite possible various criminal activities are being investigated, possibly including the Delphi case, possibly other murder cases, maybe cartel, drug networks, child trafficking, firearms, or a whole host of other possibilities.

JBC, regardless, is a criminal with potential value to LE in numerous domains. He may be BG, or not. He may know BG or not. He may be an otherwise valuable asset to LE.

Only time will tell.

For me personally, he's the closest to what I think a BG would be, the closest I've seen in 4 years. But I ain't bettin' the farm on it.

Damn right. Even if he's not BG, as others have said here more than once, you don't just wake up one day at age 42 and brazenly abduct a kid in your own neighborhood, and assault her while the cops are searching the neighborhood for her. There were lead-ups. He's a bad bad dude. Whether in Delphi or elsewhere, this guy left a trail that deserves a full investigation, and that takes time. If, rather than connecting the dots from him to Delphi, they start with his entire timeline and fill in the background around all of it, I am very much okay with that. Take all the time you need, detectives. He ain't goin' nowhere.

 

[SMK777]

There were lead-ups. He's a bad bad dude. Whether in Delphi or elsewhere, this guy left a trail that deserves a full investigation, and that takes time. If, rather than connecting the dots from him to Delphi, they start with his entire timeline and fill in the background around all of it, I am very much okay with that. Take all the time you need, detectives. He ain't goin' nowhere.

Yes. And there’s the likelihood too, that in doing a thorough investigation of past activities of his that went undetected, there’s a higher chance that they could solidify the link to Delphi.(rather than just rushing to try and connect him with Delphi.)

 

[taylorss]

The silence around BJC is so odd .... how about his ex-wife and other women who had the bad luck to be involved with him ? No one’s seen anything or got anything to say except his brother & father that one time?

I guess people in Delphi are used to being tight-lipped on this case, but doesn’t BJC have a lifetime of people all around the region and even beyond who know what a beast he is

eta - guess I used a forbidden word, sorry

 

[MistyWaters]

You mean other new ones, not Eldridge and DN and the others who were POI?

This was a comment made by LE during one of the recent podcasts iirc, significantly discussed earlier on these threads. But of course no names were mentioned.

 

[MistyWaters]

The silence around BJC is so odd .... how about his ex-wife and other women who had the bad luck to be involved with him ? No one’s seen anything or got anything to say except his brother & father that one time?

I guess people in Delphi are used to being tight-lipped on this case, but doesn’t BJC have a lifetime of people all around the region and even beyond who know what a beast he is

eta - guess I used a forbidden word, sorry

If anyone has information connecting JBC to Delphi they should be talking to LE, not the media. What if the killer isn’t him? Meanwhile these talkers convince the general public including potential tipsters he’s the guilty one because they can pretty much say whatever they want to in terms of “he said”. Then this case goes forever unsolved.

 

[minazoe]

Was this stated in a linkable source that they already knew of JBC? It would be helpful to read it and understand the context. If it is coming from Facebook posts, it would be considered rumor.

Lemmesee if I can find it...

 

[carbuff]

The silence around BJC is so odd .... how about his ex-wife and other women who had the bad luck to be involved with him ? No one’s seen anything or got anything to say except his brother & father that one time?

I guess people in Delphi are used to being tight-lipped on this case, but doesn’t BJC have a lifetime of people all around the region and even beyond who know what a beast he is

eta - guess I used a forbidden word, sorry

Hopefully they aren't talking to the media because they have real information and are talking to LE instead.

 

[Yemelyan]

You mean other new ones, not Eldridge and DN and the others who were POI?

There are (or have been) POI, in my opinion, who the media has never reported on and who are not known publicly. It's never been announced who they are and they've also never been "cleared."