Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #135

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that's okay. she has the right. It's also the Daily Fail so they will for sure sensationalize ... mOO
Yes, they are looking to have a big storyline so put a spin on it….I still hold out hope regarding JBC but I certainly can understand Kelsi being annoyed with various social media posts saying things like, Did you hear they caught that Delphi killer?
 
  • #322
^^ interesting story thx
just want to point out tho that it’s typical Daily Fail fare, where someone else’s reporting (here, the recent podcast) is taken & spun into unsupported but far more interesting headlines/ conclusions.

Nothing new in this piece - Kelsi DID NOT say BJC is not the one - if anything she said she wouldn’t know as LE isn’t sharing info with her. The closest she came to saying he’s not the one is “There is no suspect in custody in this case,” which everyone knows & is undisputed.

(I feel terrible writing anything about ❤️Kelsi❤️ because her interest in this story so completely dwarfs an outsider like mine so who am I to even comment .... IIRC they are Christians, so that means her beloved baby sister is now at peace while Kelsi struggles on w/o her . But by distorting Kelsi’s words to report a conclusion she didn’t & couldn’t make, I don’t think the Daily Fail is showing the respect & honoring the privacy she deserves JMO)

Daily fail did the same thing with the original story on the 9-yo victim, describing her IIRC as ‘covered in dog bites’ or likewise when there was nothing else reported suggesting even multiple bites let alone ‘covered’
Yes, they are sensationalizing , agreed.:mad:
 
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Daily fail did the same thing with the original story on the 9-yo victim, describing her IIRC as ‘covered in dog bites’ or likewise when there was nothing else reported suggesting even multiple bites let alone ‘covered’

Snipped by me....

I so agree and I'm glad that it is recognized the way the DM does this by "borrowing" other reports and sensationalizing/re-intepreting what is said in the most sensational way possible. I think all of their reporting on Delphi needs to be viewed in the same lens - i.e. that very little of it, if any, is original reporting and some of it may be very loose interpretation of the actual facts or even totally made up.
 
  • #325
Do you mean there were consistent daily FB posts, except for 2/13/17?

IMO - no one here can say, as no one commenting here was FB friends with him at the time. His public postings may be different to a previous or future pattern, but the public, undeleted ones are all we see. What he may have posted privately, commented on, what content he may have deleted, or how he participated in groups (if any) is absolutely unknown to the general "us." No doubt LE knows, however.
 
  • #326
Daily Mail, not a source I’m fond of, so take the article with a grain of salt:

Sister of Delphi murder victim does NOT believe pedophile cops have linked to killings is murderer | Daily Mail Online

May 14, 2021

“Kelsi said: 'Yes, I’ve seen his name all over. No new updates. No press release. There is no suspect in custody in this case. LE (law enforcement) is looking into a tip that was sent in that is now being made way bigger than it is. Until LE says he's a suspect, he is no more than another name they are looking at,' Kelsi German wrote on Twitter.”


Delphi murders still very alive for family
May 10, 2021

“German, who is attending Purdue and studying forensic psychology, says she meets monthly with investigators and they assure her they are making progress.

“They won’t tell me how,” she said. “They won’t tell me why. They won’t tell me what they are looking at. I think he is hiding in plain sight. It could be someone I know or it could be someone who is only in town sometimes.”

Whoever that person may be, the killer of the two junior high students is someone who German thinks about a lot.

“I’ve written a letter I want to read at trial, but it changes all the time,” she said. “I have learned that you can’t go on without forgiveness, so I have forgiven him for what he did. I do not want him to receive the death penalty. When they catch him, I want to see him rot in prison.””
 
  • #327
That’s true. They certainly wouldn’t want to put Kelsi and the families of the girls in a position of being encouraged, and talking openly about the possibility that the case may be solved, only to be unable to finish things up.

There’s a good chance that at this point they’re not telling Kelsi any more than they’re telling the media or public in general. Knowing she does podcasts as an advocate for her little sister, they wouldn’t want to create a powder keg situation.

BBM: In a situation like that, how could they get out of the impasse?

Good afternoon @SMK777,

I absolutely agree with everything you've said here.

There is no possibility of L.E. risking the integrity of their investigation into J.B.C. or anyone else for that matter. Hence, the "we're checking into him as we would anyone else".

In my opinion, the L.E. (including F.B.I.) may have been able to connect J.B.C. to the Delphi Murders or other crimes.

Maybe, maybe not - we shall see.

The investigation team has not leaked any information in 4 years and they are not about to now.

Just my opinions.
 
  • #328
I agree with others that JBC's photo is the first one that gave me pause, thinking he could truly be BG. I agree that LE wouldn't say much one way or the other to family at this point as they don't want to get any hopes up or give the wrong impression.

But I hope that it's him and they can finally bring justice. Or if it's not him..maybe he knows something about it. Given what he's done, he may have friends who are similar to him/capable of doing something like BG has done.

Jmo
 
  • #329
IMO, I don't think that there is going to be any information released by LE on JBC in relation to Abby and Libby until AFTER the trial/deposition for his current case happens. Especially since it seems to be moving quickly towards trial and (again imo) I can't imagine that he has any logical defense.

I can't do links right now, but several msm sources have LE repeatedly stating that if they just have a "name", or the "who", they can figure out the rest. I would think that LE knows by now whether JBC is actually a suspect
 
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IMO, I don't think that there is going to be any information released by LE on JBC in relation to Abby and Libby until AFTER the trial/deposition for his current case happens. Especially since it seems to be moving quickly towards trial and (again imo) I can't imagine that he has any logical defense.

I can't do links right now, but several msm sources have LE repeatedly stating that if they just have a "name", or the "who", they can figure out the rest. I would think that LE knows by now whether JBC is actually a suspect

Carter said in his last interview on People Investigates Delphi, the last piece of the puzzle is someone tipping in a name. I've tried to ponder, what else besides DNA or fingerprints could link someone personally to evidence. I'm assuming it has to do with signatures or weapon (possibly handmade by a certain profession), or something like a foreign (to the area) material or animal hair. Or maybe it is DNA or fingerprints and they just haven't gotten a hit which could by why they also suggested the possibility that he hasn't offended before.
 
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Carter said in his last interview on People Investigates Delphi, the last piece of the puzzle is someone tipping in a name. I've tried to ponder, what else besides DNA or fingerprints could link someone personally to evidence. I'm assuming it has to do with signatures or weapon (possibly handmade by a certain profession), or something like a foreign (to the area) material or animal hair. Or maybe it is DNA or fingerprints and they just haven't gotten a hit which could by why they also suggested the possibility that he hasn't offended before.

The oft-mentioned ask is for somebody who knows the identity of the killer, the last piece of the puzzle, but I’d think that would have to involve more than just a name. Otherwise surely anyone giving LE somebody’s name must have reason to suspect he’s the murderer.
 
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I can't do links right now, but several msm sources have LE repeatedly stating that if they just have a "name", or the "who", they can figure out the rest. I would think that LE knows by now whether JBC is actually a suspect
I have to confess that this has always puzzled me. It’s like LE having said, “We know Mr. X is doing these serial murders, if only someone would come forward and say, His name is Ted Bundy, it would be solved.”

Usually they simply don’t know who the killer is, and then he gets caught in the act, they find evidence at his residence and in his car, and now they also know his name (Ted Bundy, Night Stalker, Son of Sam). To say you have everything but the name is baffling.:confused:
 
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JMO but I think when LE says ‘we just need one more piece of the puzzle’ or ‘all we need is a name’ ..... it doesn’t mean anything but that they think or hope those statements will somehow help close the investigation. They’re trying to EG psych out the killer, not get the truth of the investigation out to the public ... MOO
 
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JMO but I think when LE says ‘we just need one more piece of the puzzle’ or ‘all we need is a name’ ..... it doesn’t mean anything but that they think or hope those statements will somehow help close the investigation. They’re trying to EG psych out the killer, not get the truth of the investigation out to the public ... MOO
But wouldn’t that make the killer think they really don’t have anything? (Like it’s just false bravado)
 
  • #335
Idk to me it's almost like.. "we just need someone to confirm what we suspect."
If that makes sense.

Like they almost just need someone to come forward about a suspect
 
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Kelsi and Sarah - What it’s Like Being a Family Member of a Victim in True Crime
 
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Idk to me it's almost like.. "we just need someone to confirm what we suspect."
If that makes sense.

Like they almost just need someone to come forward about a suspect
I guess so, but it’s just very disturbing that a supposed local in a town with a small population would leave audio/video behind after a brazen and heinous murder of 2 minors, and walk free for 4+ years. Very disconcerting. I can only imagine what the family is enduring. :(
 
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Kelsi and Sarah - What it’s Like Being a Family Member of a Victim in True Crime
It’s sad that you can see Libby in Kelsi. She would probably look very much like her now.
 
  • #339
I guess so, but it’s just very disturbing that a supposed local in a town with a small population would leave audio/video behind after a brazen and heinous murder of 2 minors, and walk free for 4+ years. Very disconcerting. I can only imagine what the family is enduring. :(

I agree with you 100% on that. I thought it would be solved quickly between the audio and video, and like you said - small town. I also thought Elizabeth Barraza's murder would be solved quickly since it was caught on a neighbor's home surveillance but no luck there yet either.

Just trying to make sense of LE's wording about needing that one piece or needing a name. I'm just thinking that if they were given a name on a tip, etc, maybe they feel they could definitely connect them or rule them out with whatever evidence they have.
 
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I agree with you 100% on that. I thought it would be solved quickly between the audio and video, and like you said - small town. I also thought Elizabeth Barraza's murder would be solved quickly since it was caught on a neighbor's home surveillance but no luck there yet either.

Just trying to make sense of LE's wording about needing that one piece or needing a name. I'm just thinking that if they were given a name on a tip, etc, maybe they feel they could definitely connect them or rule them out with whatever evidence they have.
Yes, true. It’s just beyond frustrating.

If their theory about him being a local is correct, someone ought to have connected the dots by now.

If Chadwell turns out not to be him, I’m wondering if it will ever be solved. (I wish Abby and Libby had been carrying a baseball bat or crowbar and smashed him. :()
 
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