Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #142

[Tiff23fr]

New information:

According to a 10 page 2017 search warrant:

Libby recorded 43 seconds of video.

We posted at the same time.. LOL

The affidavit on the screen specifically says “evidence related to the murders of LG and AW, and diligently search for the following items:….”
(Blurred out after this)

 

[legalmomma]

From HLN (On Live now)
“Down the hill” is heard at the end of the video.

 

[minazoe]

so not from the top of the bridge, later. mOO

 

[Scatcat]

I'm from London UK and I frequently check this thread hoping this evil entity is caught. Lots of love to Libby and Abby's friends and family. Xxxx

 

[MassGuy]

Third piece of information:

The video is timestamped 2:13pm.

So to sum up:

43 second video.

"Down the hill" is at the end.

The video occurred at 2:13.

 

[TheVisual]

So if there is only 43 seconds of video and he was approx. 70 feet away then there may be more of him on the video. They said what they gave us in the bridge guy walk was only several seconds. Also they haven't said anything about additional audio after the video. Give us what you have!!!!!

 

[MassGuy]

Paul Holes brings up a key point. They have a specific time, which should have made a cell tower dump very helpful.

A tower dump tells you what phones are in a particular area.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Talk about coincidences:

Date: 2/13
Timestamp of video: 2:13

 

[MassGuy]

Kegan Kline:

Claims investigators say he was communicating with Libby before the murder. I think it's possible this is a bluff on their part, so I definitely don't take it as fact.

Barbara McDonald says the 25 minute interview she conducted has been viewed by law enforcement. They found it "helpful."

He feels harassed. Gave up DNA. Claims he wasn't involved.

Claims he never tried to meet the girls he catfished.

Does not believe he will be charged with anything in relation to this.

 

[TheVisual]

The program said the video of BG was taken at 2:13. Now if Abby's picture was posted at 2:07 then why wasn't BG in the background walking? That's only 6 minutes for BG to run across the bridge. Maybe he WAS down below and made a u-turn on the bridge.JMO

 

[Tiff23fr]

The program said the video of BG was taken at 2:13. Now if Abby's picture was posted at 2:07 then why wasn't BG in the background walking? That's only 6 minutes for BG to run across the bridge. Maybe he WAS down below and made a u-turn on the bridge.JMO

Do we know how long it takes (on average) to cross the bridge?

 

[UnapologeticallyAspie]

KAK smiled in his eyes a few times, and he looked to his left before answering one of the questions, along with the smile. That tells me that he lied.
ETA: lied about the answer to at least one of the questions.

moo.

 

[MassGuy]

Paul Holes talks about this whole two sketch thing is confusing the public. He thinks law enforcement needs to clarify this.

 

[Diddian]

KAK has a lot of acne or scarring on his face. A meth user?

 

[Tiff23fr]

Paul Holes talks about this whole two sketch thing is confusing the public. He thinks law enforcement needs to clarify this.

If anthony_shots is the angle, I can rationalize the two sketch approach if I attempt to read between the lines:

-Catfish is a combination of two people
-May appear younger refers to the catfish coming across as a younger individual

If BG were to be behind the Shots profile and had met with someone, the two sketch approach might click for that individual based on a personal experience. That is where key tips would come from after so much time with no arrest based solely on the first sketch.

All JMO and I could be reaching to see how it could make sense to someone other than the general public.

 

[MassGuy]

A lot of tracks, cigarette buffs, urine, spit; the crime scene was contaminated by searchers (former state police sgt).

Casey Jordan talks about wasted opportunities early on (lack of search dogs), and if the case was bungled due to inexperience. Wonders if it would be helpful to release more of the video.

If DNA isn't going to solve it, the public is more important.

Paul Holes thinks maybe touch DNA was impacted (diluted) by the girl's blood. So they may not have a strong enough sample to put into CODIS or do genetic genealogy with.

They took hair from Kegan Kline. They may have hair evidence as they would normally just do a swab.

Paul thinks there still may be avenues open if the right people are involved.

 

[passionflower]

KAK does he walk like that man in video? Wish they could take him to the bridge and walk. I’m so happy who ever the killer is he hasn’t killed again. That might because he is locked up, dead or moved? was this his first murders?

 

[Diddian]

If anthony_shots is the angle, I can rationalize the two sketch approach if I attempt to read between the lines:

-Catfish is a combination of two people
-May appear younger refers to the catfish coming across as a younger individual

If BG were to be behind the Shots profile and had met with someone, the two sketch approach might click for that individual based on a personal experience. That is where key tips would come from after so much time with no arrest based solely on the first sketch.

All JMO and I could be reaching to see how it could make sense to someone other than the general public.

I agree with this. And it could make sense of Carter’s statement that in the end it may turn out to be a combination of the two sketches (paraphrasing).

ETA: the younger sketch may have been released to draw out tips from those who had communicated online with a person they believed was the person with the image KAK had stolen to use under the name a_shots.

 

[TL4S]

Do we know how long it takes (on average) to cross the bridge?

Didn't JM say around 5 minutes in her video? I can't remember for sure.

Does KAK's voice sound anything like DTH?

 

[Diddian]

Could the hair sample have been taken to see whether KAK had used certain substances they have reason to believe the abductor/murderer used, whether illicit drugs such as meth or heroin or other illicit substances (e.g. steroids)?

ETA: Wonder if the hair sample was taken back in 2017 or more recently, in association with the recent charges.