Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #143

[AC4RD]

Subaru was mentioned back in 2017. Found Deceased - IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #141

Chaz, *thank you!* I didn't remember that but it's very interesting. Though just because TCG says something IMO is no reason to be certain it's correct. They're often interesting but occasionally JMHO MOOOooo way off Earth into Frost-Cuckoo Land. (Like IMO 3 episodes devoted to one suspect with no actual evidence at all.)

ETA: You're not my old pal Chaz the musician from Oz, are you? Goes to eleven?

 

[crussell821]

Subaru was mentioned back in 2017. Found Deceased - IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #141

Sure, but they are acting this is brand new info that only they are somehow informed of. Even when Kelsi is asking them to stop spreading rumors. Unless it comes from LE it cannot be accepted as fact. MOO

 

[Lavender Moon]

Never underestimate the power of adrenaline.

Yes, adrenaline was probably his best friend that day.

 

[AC4RD]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=10154523478509092

Chaz's message about the Subaru plant had me doing some browsing backwards. Remembering TL4S's concern about the actual location where the girls were found, I thought I'd rewatch the 30-minute helicopter footage from the morning of the search, live from WRTH. The link is here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=10154523478509092 but I can't see the helicopter footage. Somebody tell me if you're able to see the video? There must be something wrong but I haven't had this problem before ... Thanks!

 

[Silver_produce0]

https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=10154523478509092

Chaz's message about the Subaru plant had me doing some browsing backwards. Remembering TL4S's concern about the actual location where the girls were found, I thought I'd rewatch the 30-minute helicopter footage from the morning of the search, live from WRTH. The link is here: https://www.facebook.com/watch/live/?ref=watch_permalink&v=10154523478509092 but I can't see the helicopter footage. Somebody tell me if you're able to see the video? There must be something wrong but I haven't had this problem before ... Thanks!

I can see the footage. I know there is one other spot where there are camera flashes but 24:43 is one spot I just found on second look.

 

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[CurtMarcucci]

Thank you; that's good to know.

We've never seen good views of the creek banks to the east of the assumed crossing. Did you get a look at that area? If you did, did you see any low spots where they could have crossed?

I couldn't get down there. From the east end of the bridge (the "down the hill" area), there is a no trespassing sign posted. Just below the bridge and on the east side, there is what looks like a walking trail but would actually be an access road to the properties just beyond the bridge boundry. There were tire tracks on this road. I wasn't about to get arrested or shot trying to get to the creek bed. The area they were found would be just around the bend of the creek north of the bridge. This area is out of view from the end of the bridge. I'll try to get my videos posted and grab stills from them over the weekend. I did check out the creek. The water was flowing fairly well. With a dry winter, the creek would not be difficult to cross.

 

[FrostedGlass]

I couldn't get down there. From the east end of the bridge (the "down the hill" area), there is a no trespassing sign posted. Just below the bridge and on the east side, there is what looks like a walking trail but would actually be an access road to the properties just beyond the bridge boundry. There were tire tracks on this road. I wasn't about to get arrested or shot trying to get to the creek bed. The area they were found would be just around the bend of the creek north of the bridge. This area is out of view from the end of the bridge. I'll try to get my videos posted and grab stills from them over the weekend. I did check out the creek. The water was flowing fairly well. With a dry winter, the creek would not be difficult to cross.

Any pics will be much appreciated. LE said there are 3 ways to cross the creek; so far, we've only found the one he apparently chose. Most of what we've seen in videos is high banks along the creek and are puzzled as to how the girls got up out of the water.

 

[carbuff]

I think that's a very good point about the probability of him being physically fit.

Not all heavyset men (or women) are clumsy or out of shape.

Was he that heavy five years ago? I don't think I've seen any pictures of him when he was younger.

 

[ScumbagTrav]

Murder Sheet Podcast has obtained documents related to the KAK case, including the full transcript of the Barbara McDonald interview:

"Through some sort of glitch, two documents mistakenly showed up briefly in Kegan Kline's case file this afternoon on Indiana's court portal. We were able to grab them both.

The first is the complete text of the Kegan Kline/ Barbara Macdonald jailhouse interview-- the one that HLN only aired a few minutes of last month. There's new information there-- including some details that support some information we received from a trusted source about who the real target of the investigation is.

We read especially pertinent highlights and discuss it all here

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Later this evening we will be sharing the complete transcript on our Murder Sheet discussion group on Facebook.

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[LunaInvidia]

Not all heavyset men (or women) are clumsy or out of shape.

Was he that heavy five years ago? I don't think I've seen any pictures of him when he was younger.

This is a good point: there are Olympic athletes with his proportions who could certainly manage a hill like that. I think he's a bit heavier now than in his 2018 pictures, but it's hard to tell.

 

[ScumbagTrav]

Credit: Murder Sheets Podcast

Barbara MacDonald jailhouse interview with Kegan Anthony Kline Transcript

 

[FrostedGlass]

About those 2 docs; I wonder if that's what this is in his court record.

03/04/2022 = Order Issued
Order entered for removal of two erroneous CCS entries.
Judicial Officer: Spahr, Timothy P.
Noticed: Sinkovics, Jeffrey Kent
Noticed: Achey, Andrew A.
Noticed: Lee, Rhett Christopher
Order Signed: 03/04/2022

 

[TTF14]

Credit: Murder Sheets Podcast

Barbara MacDonald jailhouse interview with Kegan Anthony Kline Transcript

Most interesting parts for me:

BM asked KAK if he remembered communicating with Kelsi German the evening the girls went missing. (He said no and she moved on.)

BM said the only person who would have had access to his electronics/accounts was his dad, so it is possible his dad was using the account.

BM said ISP told him they know his father did it and if he told them what he knew his charges would go away.

 

[ScumbagTrav]

About those 2 docs; I wonder if that's what this is in his court record.

03/04/2022 = Order Issued
Order entered for removal of two erroneous CCS entries.
Judicial Officer: Spahr, Timothy P.
Noticed: Sinkovics, Jeffrey Kent
Noticed: Achey, Andrew A.
Noticed: Lee, Rhett Christopher
Order Signed: 03/04/2022

According to the podcast host, it is exactly what is being referenced in the court record. One of the hosts just happened to go to the site while the docs were being hosted, and snagged them.

 

[Ravenmoon]

DBM

Someone else has already posted.

 

[ScumbagTrav]

- The wrestling PPV Kline mentions is this one:

Elimination Chamber (2017) - Wikipedia

Occurred Feb 12, 2007.

- I find it fascinating that the guy who is in prison for using a cell phone to solicit underage girls to send him nudes, is allowed to have a CELL PHONE while in prison.

KAK repeatedly talks about texting while in prison.

 

[carbuff]

Wow. A lot of shocking stuff in there about the dad.

 

[Deerrun]

The Delphi Murders: A Reaction to Barbara McDonald’s Interview with Kegan Kline
The murder sheet has the full interview of BM and KaK. Was this posted already? Interesting to say the least.