Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #143

[Bethan]

Yes, I’m thinking JBC could perhaps know KAK via KAK’s father. I don’t know how old he is though.

I wonder if a common link between these men could be Pit Bull Terriers.

(Apologies if this has already been mooted, I could be way behind)

 

[AC4RD]

The FBI's unknown suspect page for the Delphi homicides was updated earlier this week to remove the height and weight categories from the suspect description ... ... Could be nothing more than them trying to align their page with the ISP's homicide investigation page which has never listed those attributes but the timing is interesting.
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Very interesting, and a very good catch on your part! As you said, it might not be significant, but it certainly could have been done for a specific reason, relating to a specific person or people of interest. Thank you for finding that!

 

[TL4S]

The FBI's unknown suspect page for the Delphi homicides was updated earlier this week to remove the height and weight categories from the suspect description. An archived copy of the page from this past Wednesday (Mar 9th, 2022) shows the listed height and weight of the suspect as 5'6"-5'10" and 180-200 lbs. As of today, those fields were eliminated from the page as well as from the downloadable pdf of the wanted poster.

Someone consciously went and edited the page. Very curious that they did that with the recent news about KK and TK who seemed larger that that description. Could be nothing more than them trying to align their page with the ISP's homicide investigation page which has never listed those attributes but the timing is interesting.

Link to March 9, 2022 archived copy of FBI suspect page

Link to current page

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Thank you for posting this.

I note the "reddish-brown" hair color still applies.

Also noted. There's nothing about a_shots on the FBI poster.

 

[sandy_80]

LE hasn't and isn't going to name suspects publicly. News outlets are also going to tread lightly as to not get sued. I'm not married to the KAK/KAK dad theory, although I find it interesting. But the documents are certainly more information that we've received regarding anything surrounding this investigation.

that isn't accurate
daniel nations...paul etter ..and the peado were all named

 

[JnRyan]

An RV park? I believe that is unlikely. Not impossible, but improbable. More possible though than the killer has a puppy or a baby goat under his coat.

IF this guy is local, how many people might match the first sketch or the second OR if we're to believe ISP Carter a combo of the two and yet no suspect? MAYBE he does not live locally. A guy in a trailer park is an unlikely, but possible POI. If nothing else, did LE ask the users of the park who was there that day?

Remember, we had LE stating that catfishing or other such internet connections were not involved. Even Gray Hughes, in his latest YT video with the Murder Sheet podcast, admits he scoffed at the catfishing theories early on. And now he readily admits he shouldn't have done that. An RV park, IMO, is highly unlikely. But did LE look at it?

 

[Prime8]

that isn't accurate
daniel nations...paul etter ..and the peado were all named

LE didn't release those names. They released a vague comment only after national media continued to run stories about potential links to Delphi. LE didn't release the name of KAK, they asked for tips on a social media profile... which is the closest thing they've ever done to releasing a suspect.

 

[Always Stay Hopeful]

Thank you so much for this video! Wow, it really helps to see the area.

1) You showed several houses near the trail as you walked along. I did not realize that people lived so close to the trail. Brazen of BG.

2) You also noted that the lack of leaves meant great visibility. Exactly! In addition, BG attacks and kills Abby and Libby in broad daylight. So exposed yet he still chose this area. Why?

No way do I think a stranger was just out walking that trail. I think BG has to be a local or someone who grew up in the area.

3) BG had to have watched the girls to know that no one else was with them. Because, otherwise, the girls could have been there with parents or siblings, who were simply a little farther ahead (or behind).

I have been one of the people who still thinks that the girls thought they were meeting someone. To me, it doesn't matter that the trip seemed spontaneous. It also could explain why there are two sketches of BG.

4) And seeing the actual bridge, can you imagine walking it with your hands in your pockets, as BG did? That does not seem like a natural position. I would want my hands free in case I needed to balance.

Again, thank you for taking a video of the trail!

I've thought before, too, that Bridge Guy having his hands in his pockets made him seem confident while walking across the bridge, like he had done it before. But if you look back, Abby also had her hands in her pockets while crossing the bridge, and it was said to have been her first time doing so.
Just an observation.

 

[Laura456]

I've thought before, too, that Bridge Guy having his hands in his pockets made him seem confident while walking across the bridge, like he had done it before. But if you look back, Abby also had her hands in her pockets while crossing the bridge, and it was said to have been her first time doing so.
Just an observation.

I also think they were set to meet someone, the way they kept asking to go so insistently.

 

[Ozoner]

I also think they were set to meet someone, the way they kept asking to go so insistently.

Asking until someone says yes is normal behavior for teenagers.
They didn't ask to go at a particular time, so it is extremely unlikely that they intended to meet anyone. there's no evidence whatsoever for that.

 

[Ozoner]

I also thought having your hands in pockets didn’t seem natural.

What's unnatural about it? I walk that way almost constantly unless I'm carrying something.

 

[sandy_80]

everytime this le comes out with another vague comment/ request ..hell is raised on SM and more ppl ( including family ) gets dragged in the dirt...I am getting so sick of it all

 

[Thelastleg]

everytime this le comes out with another vague comment/ request ..hell is raised on SM and more ppl ( including family ) gets dragged in the dirt...I am getting so sick of it all

I'm just wondering, do you think maybe LE are doing this intentionally?

 

[Prime8]

everytime this le comes out with another vague comment/ request ..hell is raised on SM and more ppl ( including family ) gets dragged in the dirt...I am getting so sick of it all

I guess my question is, what do you think LE should do? Never say anything about anything the media reports and never ask the public for tips? How is it their fault that people on social media cause chaos? And if you're sick of it all, why be active on a social media board about the case? I'm not trying to be snarky or start an argument but I just don't understand.

 

[sandy_80]

I guess my question is, what do you think LE should do? Never say anything about anything the media reports and never ask the public for tips? How is it their fault that people on social media cause chaos? And if you're sick of it all, why be active on a social media board about the case? I'm not trying to be snarky or start an argument but I just don't understand.

yes .. its their fault ..cause they are never precise about anything
they just keep leaving things out there..causing more confusion..
what if this last info has nothing to do with the case.. the internet is dragging kelsi into it now..
I am still standing by ( the girls weren't going to meet anyone there ) and this last panorama is either to cover up an erialer mistake or another shot in the dark

 

[Prime8]

yes .. its their fault ..cause they are never precise about anything
they just keep leaving things out there..causing more confusion..
what if this last info has nothing to do with the case.. the internet is dragging kelsi into it now

I think being vague is fair criticism, they don't really clarify much. The two sketches is still a major source of confusion and the different agencies don't seem to be on the same page regarding the sketches. I will say though, it wouldn't matter anyway. Most message boards are insane and even with pretty solid facts and evidence, people still speculate in wild fantasy. I don't think the KAK information is in that realm though, there is some tangible information coming out. This board is actually more active with the KAK info than Reddit, which I find really interesting.

 

[mekeritrig]

Barbara McDonald just posted this tweet about the reason for the removal of the estimated Height and Weight from the FBI suspect poster and webpage. Apparently ISP requested they do that.

"For those following the Delphi case, Indiana State Police requested FBI remove height/weight from description bc they don’t want people to focus on that and not call a tip in. ISP says focus on still image, second sketch, and voice. Tips: 1(765)822-3535"

https://twitter.com/NewsyBarbara/status/1503410912874713090

 

[Justice101]

Continuing to come back here from time to time. You guys are good.

I still think it was Chadwell. I just think they don't have enough DNA evidence to charge and/or convict him

Just circumstantial evidence like his cell phone was in the area on the day, right height and weight, same voice profile, etc. But not near enough to convict him.

Regardless, this case HAS to be solved!

 

[missforeigner]

Hi everyone! I`ve been following this site for years but this is my first post. I apologise that my English is`nt so good but i`ll give a try. First of all it has been very interesting to read so many good and admirable posts here. You guys are so great
This case is so heartbreaking and sad. I really really wish that this case will be solved soon.
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[flashy09]

Continuing to come back here from time to time. You guys are good.

I still think it was Chadwell. I just think they don't have enough DNA evidence to charge and/or convict him

Just circumstantial evidence like his cell phone was in the area on the day, right height and weight, same voice profile, etc. But not near enough to convict him.

Regardless, this case HAS to be solved!

He is/was such a good suspect! But there has to be a lot to this Anthony Shots profile for LE to go public. Especially so quickly after the media blackout....no way would they bring this up to the public if not very important. I would say maybe JBC involved with the profile, except wouldn't KAK be shouting from the rooftops that he let someone else use it or sold it or was hacked or whatever? All I can recall him saying is that it's not impossible his father used it as he lived with him.

 

[Lavender Moon]

Hi everyone! I`ve been following this site for years but this is my first post. I apologise that my English is`nt so good but i`ll give a try. First of all it has been very interesting to read so many good and admirable posts here. You guys are so great
This case is so heartbreaking and sad. I really really wish that this case will be solved soon.
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Welcome to Websleuths and to this thread, missforeigner. Looking forward to your input.