Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #96

[Charlot123]

It’s a good point though.

Any of us that think we’re likely to identify the suspect through Internet trawls are truly living a fantasy.

Having said that, I think there are quite a few of us who want to understand and are fascinated by the range of human behavior and the dynamics and pathology that leads to tragedies such as these.

What motivates a human to take away the life of another? How do people end up in such vulnerable situations? What does it say about our communities, our values and morals.

To me, this is what’s interesting.

If there are people who feel schadenfreude at another’s misfortune or intellectual superiority over authorities, I feel sorry for them.

Biologically, it is not such an uncommon behavior. Remember all crusades, where young males would get together and travel far away to do exactly the same, kill, rape and rob. How did all our major empires form? Alexander the Great, the hero, crucified all men of Tyre when he took the city, and sold women and children into slavery. He did it to a lot of places, and now is considered a hero in history.

What I want to say is, maybe the killing instinct sits in more people than we think, because evolutionary, we are not that far gone from tribal people.

With one caveat. Typical youth violence is probably more straightforward, and these kids who are in today’s gangs, in old times would have been the crusaders or the mercenaries. This behavior is not atypical and as men mature, they grow out of it. Settle down.

The type that this YBG shows, chasing children or young women, has the element of a serial killer, and serial killers are somewhat unaccepted by their peers and do not enjoy typical peer activities. They would not fight in groups, they don’t join groups, they don’t even abide by the rules of young male groups, because they like something totally different.

 

[cody22]

Looks like I am going to be the Minority here, but I believe Targeted.

You may be in the minority that is correct...... I sure hope we get to find out.....moo

 

[ab01]

Looks like I am going to be the Minority here, but I believe Targeted.

I believe they were targeted in the fact that they were in the area that a predator was lurking and they fit his fantasy.

I don't believe that its very likely they were targeted on social media or digitally in general

With Fbi digital forensics definitely involved with this case I think its highly unlikely it could have been done in a way that they wouldn't have uncovered some link

And I just don't get the feeling that the girls knew who this guy was JMO

 

[princessbutterscotch1]

For those asking for image of a red car seen on the computer screen during the most recent briefing. I found this (someone else had posted it elsewhere):

https://i.imgur.com/e2KvwgE.jpg

It appears to be an icon for a shortcut, with the word "Aspen". JMO but I really don't think it has anything to do with the case and is instead an application used by LE.

UGPTI - Aspen

It should be noted that a red car was investigated early on. But it was ruled out pretty quickly as not connected. It's embedded in this news video at approx 1:06:

 

[kc1023]

Not necessarily. He might not be that smart. Don't forget, he managed to either "forget" about Libby's phone or never even thought about it.

I don't think we're dealing with a rocket scientist here.

I also think that there will be searches on his devices that will lead investigators to a better understanding.

JMO

Well, I am pretty sure one of the "mistakes" LE talks about him making has to be that he left the phone, right? In the heat of the moment he may have simply forgotten it or maybe he thought he destroyed it and tossed it in the water. moo

 

[princessbutterscotch1]

Aspen as in Colorado? Wasnt DN found in Colorado? Possibly a file of their investigation into him? They will have to prove during the trial that they throughly investigated him so that the defense cant use the publicity surrounding his arrest for reasonable doubt.

 

[ManicMuggle83]

Several people have mentioned his clothes not looking like a young person's attire. I also saw mentioned that the jacket looks like a work jacket. It made me think of some of the younger guys I see in the ER in construction/factory work attire and made me wonder if anyone recognizes the jacket as such? One of the factories here gives out biannual hoodie and winter jackets with the company logo on it. Just a thought!

 

[Wells]

Venturing out on a limb, I would say the police do not believe the community is in danger because they 100% know who the suspect is and they have him under a microscope. This guy isn't going to sneeze without police knowing.

 

[neesaki]

Attached a higher quality picture of the screen

I see Bill of Sale 3 21 2013
ETA: This was second row from bottom, 5th icon to the right; I believe this is the one puppyraiser was inquiring about

 

[Joolz1975]

Aspen as in Colorado? Wasnt DN found in Colorado? Possibly a file of their investigation into him? They will have to prove during the trial that they throughly investigated him so that the defense cant use the publicity surrounding his arrest for reasonable doubt.

Aspen as in a computer application LE use.

 

[MistyWaters]

Looks like I am going to be the Minority here, but I believe Targeted.

I agree, I’ve noticed nothing to rule that out. Even if the crime scene did contain indications of a sexually motivated crime, much like staged home invasions, sometimes that’s only a ruse to deceive investigators.

 

[sloane7777]

let me ask a question ; so they get a lot of tips from basically everyone who watched the PC and thinks they have figured out who this guy is say for example we all sent tips in saying it was a certain guy , would this be enough to force that certain guy to give DNA ?

 

[cluciano63]

Jmo I can’t see why another sketch would be issued, causing mass confusion in the way they handled it, if they know who he is.

 

[MistyWaters]

But don't you think if he has half of a brain cell, that his devices
are already burned or at the bottom of a very deep lake?

LE does not need the actual device if digital records can be obtained from the provider of the service, app or program.

 

[cody22]

let me ask a question ; so they get a lot of tips from basically everyone who watched the PC and thinks they have figured out who this guy is say for example we all sent tips in saying it was a certain guy , would this be enough to force that certain guy to give DNA ?

No. There is probably nothing that we have turned up, that LE have not already known for some time before that last PC.....moo

 

[ab01]

DBM already answered by @Joolz1975

 

[ab01]

No. There is probably nothing that we have turned up, that LE have not already known for some time before that last PC.....moo

I'l go one step further: There is nothing that we have turned up that LE isn't well aware of

 

[TTF14]

Jmo I can’t see why another sketch would be issued, causing mass confusion in the way they handled it, if they know who he is.

Well, hypothetically speaking, if I was covering for my son, husband, brother, nephew, cousin, neighbor, ex-boyfriend, etc. and figured with that current sketch going around and nothing "new" happening, I might feel pretty secure they will never get caught and I could keep covering for him. But, the new sketch comes out and.....whoa......what do I do?? Do I keep covering for him and risk going to jail myself? Now I'm nervous.....and trying to decide what to do....

MOO

 

[TTF14]

I'l go one step further: There is nothing that we have turned up that LE isn't well aware of

All of my sleuthing isn't to solve the crime. It's to find out what LE knows that they are not telling us! I'm nosey like that.

 

[sloane7777]

To the poster who said she thought the pics of perp showed a taller,
thinner, younger guy with a pointy elongated chin....... I think I
LOVE you.

I totally see it