Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams & Liberty (Libby) German - The Delphi Murders - #150 *ARREST*

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  • #581
The eyes on the second sketch and those of the arrestee are EXACT, as is the bottom lip, the eyebrows are nearly exact as are the dimensions of the face.

I don't believe for a second that the lady walking her dog(s) agreed that he was 5'9" or in his 20-30's.

The first sketch is probably FBI junk. They came up with 5'9"
MOO, I think RMA’s nose and the nose on the 2nd sketch are very similar.
Mostly everything else is kind of, maybe-ish
 
  • #582
Only to testifying against a spouse in a criminal trial.
although she has no obligation to speak to the police if she doesn’t want to - none of us do
 
  • #583
Excuse my crappy formatting but it appears RA is now in White County Jail. (Monticello IN)

Alias
:
ALLEN, RICHARD M
Offender Name:
ALLEN, RICHARD MATTHEW
Custody Status:
In Custody
Age:
50
Location:
White County Jail
Race:
White
Contact Facility:
White County Jail
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Offender ID:
182509
Gender:
Male

Date of Birth:
09/09/1972



Additional Information:


Aliases


ALLEN, RICHARD M



Offender Name:
ALLEN, RICHARD MATTHEW
Custody Status:
In Custody
Age:
50
Location:
Carroll County Jail
Race:
White
Contact Facility:
Carroll County Jail
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Offender ID:
22892
Gender:
Male

Date of Birth:
09/09/1972

Additional Information:


Aliases


RENTFROW, CRAIGH ROSS



Offender Name:
ALLEN, RICHARD MATTHEW
Custody Status:
In Custody
Age:
50
Location:
White County Jail
Race:
White
Contact Facility:
White County Jail
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Offender ID:
182509
Gender:
Male

Date of Birth:
09/09/1972




Additional Information:


Aliases


ALLEN, RICHARD M

There is that alias again.
 
  • #584
It is one of the original pictures. Released April 28, 2019.

(With the goatee added from the first picture).

And we will have to agree to disagree. I think the April 28th picture with or withou the goatee looks 100 percent like him. Not perfect but close enough for me.


Thanks for confirming exactly what I said. It was the second sketch doctored with elements of the first sketch. ;)
 
  • #585
Hi everyone, I’m not too tech savvy but I’m wondering what the implication is if the phone factory reset? Does it erase history? Is the thought that the killer told her to do that perhaps? And don’t messages & such still stay on the internet somewhere anyway? Thanks to anyone who knows!
 
  • #586
Most likely not. I have to collect videos like those for work and it is considered divine intervention if there is any video older than a month.
Spent five years in corporate & store security overseeing the area that provided monitoring to franchise stores and this is 100% truth. The amount of disk and/or cloud space that security recordings take up is massive. Most servers don't have the capacity to store more than 7-10 days if that.

How it's usually set up is the server or cloud has a maximum memory capacity and the camera records continuously. Once the limit is reached - again it's server or disk space not number of days - then the system overwrites the oldest existing data on a continual loop.

I don't know of a security provider in the world that has enough storage space to have recordings back that far.
 
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  • #587
I have to wonder, am I the only one who doesn't think RA looks like either sketch? I mean, maybe the first one, a little, but not the 2nd
He looks exactly like bridge man to me.
The photo on his DL not so much. His eyes don't look that strange to me. Some people are self conscious about having their photo taken.
 
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  • #588
Hi everyone, I’m not too tech savvy but I’m wondering what the implication is if the phone factory reset? Does it erase history? Is the thought that the killer told her to do that perhaps? And don’t messages & such still stay on the internet somewhere anyway? Thanks to anyone who knows!
It restores the phone to the exact settings and apps as when the phone was purchased. So any apps added after that, pictures taken, etc. are all wiped from the phone. However, most phones have an upload to a cloud (virtual storage) where pictures and videos taken among other things are still available on the cloud account.

Libby's phone was uploading to the cloud so anything that her cloud was set up to store would have had backup copies of even if she reset the phone itself.
 
  • #589
Probably already posted, but I saw a news report that said the CVS he worked at had photos of Abby and Libby in the CVS. Meaning he had to walk by that everyday when he went to work and had no conscience or remorse whatsoever. Absolute monster.
 
  • #590
Excuse my crappy formatting but it appears RA is now in White County Jail. (Monticello IN)

Alias
:
ALLEN, RICHARD M
Offender Name:
ALLEN, RICHARD MATTHEW
Custody Status:
In Custody
Age:
50
Location:
White County Jail
Race:
White
Contact Facility:
White County Jail
Notify Me of Status Changes​


Less Info

Offender ID:
182509
Gender:
Male

Date of Birth:
09/09/1972



Additional Information:


Aliases


ALLEN, RICHARD M



Offender Name:
ALLEN, RICHARD MATTHEW
Custody Status:
In Custody
Age:
50
Location:
Carroll County Jail
Race:
White
Contact Facility:
Carroll County Jail
Notify Me of Status Changes​


Less Info

Offender ID:
22892
Gender:
Male

Date of Birth:
09/09/1972

Additional Information:


Aliases


RENTFROW, CRAIGH ROSS



Offender Name:
ALLEN, RICHARD MATTHEW
Custody Status:
In Custody
Age:
50
Location:
White County Jail
Race:
White
Contact Facility:
White County Jail
Notify Me of Status Changes​


Less Info

Offender ID:
182509
Gender:
Male

Date of Birth:
09/09/1972




Additional Information:


Aliases


ALLEN, RICHARD M

This is awesome. YOU are awesome! Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I (we) appreciate you.
 
  • #591
Probably already posted, but I saw a news report that said the CVS he worked at had photos of Abby and Libby in the CVS. Meaning he had to walk by that everyday when he went to work and had no conscience or remorse whatsoever. Absolute monster.
Oh, not only did he probably not care, but he very likely enjoyed that. People talking about it probably excited him too.
 
  • #592
Side by sides so-to-speak,and while its not perfect it does look like Richard Allen. (moo) this is another example...
This photo is the one that is most convincing to me. Looks a lot like the sketch.
 
  • #593
Considering he lived right there in the same town, he probably got used to seeing them literally everywhere, in public places. Pretty creepy when you think about how easily he just blended right in. I wonder if it surprised him too?
Maybe gave him a false sense of security as well.

jmo
Those posters are EVERYWHERE in Delphi.
 
  • #594
Photo’s from the Wabash river search.
 

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  • #595
Only to testifying against a spouse in a criminal trial.
But a spouse does not have to answer anything in an interview connected with their spouse's alleged crimes.

Is there some work around for that that isnt common know
 
  • #596
PERU, Ind. — A mysterious search in Miami County continued this week with investigators from the Indiana State Police combing through a section of the Wabash River.

As FOX59 previously reported, the search has been linked to the Delphi murder investigation by a podcast that reports on the killings.

The search area is just two miles from the home of Kegan Kline, which was raided in the weeks after the bodies of Abby Williams and Libby German were discovered murdered in Delphi.

Kline’s name first surfaced in court documents, which state investigators allege he was communicating via social media with Libby the night before the girls were killed and made plans to meet the 14-year-old on the bridge during a day off from school.

 
  • #597
Oh, not only did he probably not care, but he very likely enjoyed that. People talking about it probably excited him too.
If you read about BTK, he seemed almost "removed from himself" as if he was not really connected to his own identity or what he was doing.

Witnesses Detail BTK Brutality - CBS News

https://www.cbsnews.com › news › witnesses-detail-btk-...




Aug 17, 2005 — Rader said his wife often spoke of her fear of the BTK killer. He comforted her by suggesting that she "just keep the doors locked.

He admits that he enjoys killing people, but he also thinks that he is a "nice guy" and he simultaneously
talks about the mechanics of killing with no more feeling than if he were a machine performing a set of tasks. It is like a lion eating a rabbit, IMO. I am imagining RA the same, IMO.
 
  • #598
What's odd is if you search on FB, there is a profile for someone who lives in Monticello with that name... it's clearly not RA nor is it a profile that would be potentially alluring to young teen girls either.

ETA: Even weirder... Craigh R Rentfrow, Monticello, IN (47960) - Spokeo

Same age as RA and has a wife listed named "Cathy" (Kathy?). There's a second Spokeo listing for the same name, but age 41, which seems more aligned with the FB. It's like RA was using this guy's name to catfish with?
One possibility: the two offender IDs in Carroll County are for two different charges. One charge is murder X2 and the other charge is for stealing CRR's identity and using it to commit crimes. (i.e. getting a credit card in his name and buying/viewing underage material)

When he's transferred to White County, they simply book him on one charge - Murder X2.
 
  • #599
RA having a family gives me creepy BTK vibes. Now I’m interested in cold cases before he had his daughter. Didn’t BTK stop killing for a while to “raise a family”? Is this a one time thing? Could he possibly have killed before and picked it up again once his daughter was out of the house?
Looking forward to Mondays press conference. I’m not surprised they’ll be waiting until then. Haven’t most the Delphi press conferences been held on mondays?
 
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