Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams & Liberty (Libby) German - The Delphi Murders - #151 *ARREST*

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Questions: have probable cause established according to judge. cannot discuss it

Carter question, won't discuss timeline of events today, no sniffing now, I think he was crying earlier.

can't understand questions, someone asked about reward, won't discuss reward.

prosecutor: haven't closed door on investigation, continue to leave tip line open, will examine all info gathered, even new info, see where it leads, not often to seal legal filings, but because still open investigation, needed to seal them. must protect integrity of case, can't taint the case.
Between the sealed documents, what wasn't shared and the comments, it certainly sounds like they suspect additional involvement
 
  • #662
I thought the families were going to speak
I thought so too. The families were going to be spoken to prior to the presser. They may have broken down with the news that RMA has been charged with 2 counts of murder. If so, who could blame them.
 
  • #663
they have to, i am guessing their solicitors office is already getting smashed with FOIA requests and if they don't hold one someone else will ask for one

so its going to happen one way or another

I'm sure the newspapers will file a motion to intervene and make the case for public access. Unfortunately I think the state has a strong case that they need to do everything to ensure the defendant gets a fair trial. The amount of publicity in this case is just truly extraordinary but they do still need to try to find an "impartial" jury to hear the case.
 
  • #664
Well that was what I expected. We know just as much as we did on Friday.
We didn't know for sure what the charges were. Granted, we had a pretty good idea, but now we know.
 
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  • #666
The way they skirted the Kline question and followed up with a call in your tips, leads me to believe there is a link to them and possibly others.
 
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@StevenAlbritton


Prosecutor - Does not answer when/how Allen became a suspect. Supt. Carter - Would not answer if they'd spoken w/ Allen before as during investigation. Would not answer if tips, reward, police work or all 3 led to arrest. Both say it's part of investigation
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7:19 AM · Oct 31, 2022
 
  • #668
The reason they are not releasing details is because the evidence is so solid they do not want have him claim he cant get a fair trial due to the bias the public has after seeing the evidence

They either have photos he took ,dna , clothing or all 3...hes feekcked. Thats the reason the DA keeps saying he is presumed innocent.. several times he said that...but..the sherrifs are all at peace with the case and arrest..THEY GOT HIM DEAD TO RIGHTS !
 
  • #669
My feed is fine. His constant sniffling and stumbling over words makes it very hard to understand. For something so important they really should have gotten someone who is a better speaker and can keep it together.
It had to be him.
 
  • #670
I'm sure the newspapers will file a motion to intervene and make the case for public access. Unfortunately I think the state has a strong case that they need to do everything to ensure the defendant gets a fair trial. The amount of publicity in this case is just truly extraordinary but they do still need to try to find an "impartial" jury to hear the case.



Yes surely any lawyer worth their salt is going to argue he won’t get a fair trial with the amount of publicity in this case?
 
  • #671
it certainly sounds like they suspect additional involvement

not too far of a bridge to jump to think there might be others involved even as accessories after the fact
 
  • #672
I'm thinking people in the media will be moving forward to get the documents unsealed.
 
  • #673
I can't recall one of these pressers where the authorities reiterated that the suspect is presumed innocent so many times.
Well, considering the influence this case has had in the community, they’re probably just doing so because the outrage could be dangerous. Imo.
 
  • #674
I thought the emotion displayed by DC was compelling. They truly believe they have their monster, IMO.
 
  • #675
Hmmm yeah won't be finishing the transcription. Would just be a waste of time as we got nothing.

ETA: As @IceIce9 just pointed out, we did hear he was charged on 2 counts of murder. That's something I suppose..
 
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  • #676
Good news on the charges. It is a shame we didn't get much more info but I really wasn't expecting anything else.
 
  • #677
I can't recall one of these pressers where the authorities reiterated that the suspect is presumed innocent so many times.
I know. Which is really in conflict with him being held without bale. Just sayin….
 
  • #678
Here are my very messy, not polished notes:
Delphi Presser Notes
ISP PIO from Lafayette started

Doug Carter - visibly affected.
Not a day to celebrate. But the arrest is on 2 counts of murder is the beginning of …

If any other persons had a role in any way, that person will be held accountable.

Carter mentioned Agent Jeremy Clinton? Clifton? and Agent _ Colfers? US Marshal Services

This is really important - today is not the day for details concerning the arrest. Today is NOT that day. Investigation far from complete. Won’t risk integrity by releasing documents or information before the appropriate time. PCA wis sealed and not available. Asking for your patience and understanding while system of due process works. All arrested are presumed innocent.

A successful conclusion = a guilty verdict.

Please continue to offer tips. Please continue doing that.

Felt a surprise feeling of peace today. Hopes we all felt it too. “But remember, we’re NOT done.”



Tobe: stuff about God.
Nicholas McKlugen? CC Prosecutor:
2 counts of murder. Investigation on going. Call in tips about any other person you might have or on RA. Per the court order we cannot talk about evidence in PC or charging information. Now is not that day. Today is about focusing on Abby and Libby. Entered prelim not guilty. Pretrial in Jan, Trail March .. 20?



Q&A

When did he become a suspect? Can’t say.
Is this man one you spoke to early on Carter? Can’t say.

Carter, what did L& A teach you? Resilience and the value of each day.
More individuals involved in this case? We haven’t closed the door on this investigation.
How do Klines fit it? Not gonna comment on that right now.
Regarding the Ks, he denied comment because he said they are part of the investigation.
 
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Honestly, they shouldn't have opened the floor to questions. Why ask for questions from the press knowing you can't answer anything? That leads to the frustration more than the not answering stuff.
 
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