IN-Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #52

[Bird of Paradise]

Have not seen the CS and tape except in pics and vids. Am looking again at GH vid as per OP . Obviously the CS will be bigger than just where bodies were located IMO.

Of course. I thought in your earlier question you were asking if the girls were found in/near the water and thus my reply. Sorry if I misunderstood.

 

[DeDee]

This was published on Feb 17 by the Daily Mail. It claims that the roadways were not blocked until Wednesday. That gives a killer a very long time to come and go from the CS.

This crime took longer than thirty minutes because sadistic sexual killers take their time fulfilling their evil deeds.

 

[otto]

It almost appears to be on the jacket or hangong out of jacket pocket. Just seems to be too far forward to be on his wrist. Jmo

Let's work with the original photo. The two photos of the suspect have been altered such that there are 400 pixels per inch using professional Adobe Photoshop software. What do we see at the end of his sleeve in the two photos?

 

[Peace777]

That's what I see

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. I'm wondering why LE haven't put something more in their description on IF they think BG has a mustache as well. Maybe some thing like "we believe he may be wearing a mustache or has since shaved it off" As when they do find BG sure as heck he's not going to have a mustache then. It just might jar someones memory. Here on WS we look closely at pictures put out by LE and the media, but to someone just driving by looking at a billboard may not scrutinize BG's pic so much. But a better description would stand out. All JMO

 

[asyousay]

Only the killer and LE will know that. I was trying to pin down the exact pick up time the girls missed and when exactly they first began looking for them but it is woolly. All we know is they asked to look on RL' s land at 06.30 p.m. so I do think they did look that first evening otherwise why ask then?

I thought pick up time was about 3.30 and LE called at 5.30 when the girls were not found ?

Yes I would love to know if whoever asked to look on RL land at 6.30 did a proper search as then we would know if the bodies were there all the time.

 

[Bemused]

I worked on a *very* long case with a man who worked at NASA OIG, along with several other fed LEA...I wonder if LE could request satellite imagery from some agency or another with familiar alphabet combos of the area on the 13th of Feb. Any G-numericals happen to know?

 

[Floridian]

. I'm wondering why LE haven't put something more in their description on IF they think BG has a mustache as well. Maybe some thing like "we believe he may be wearing a mustache or has since shaved it off" As when they do find BG sure as heck he's not going to have a mustache then. It just might jar someones memory. Here on WS we look closely at pictures put out by LE and the media, but to someone just driving by looking at a billboard may not scrutinize BG's pic so much. But a better description would stand out. All JMO

Exactly.. I also wonder if they truly want the people's help, why not have a sketch.. The fbi and sketch artist can easily view characteristics and draw them, they are trained in this.. I'm stomped on that, asking for help but can't even give is a sketch. Very strange.

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[Lilowlet]

Let's work with the original photo. The two photos of the suspect have been altered such that there are 400 pixels per inch using professional Adobe Photoshop software. What do we see at the end of his sleeve in the two photos?

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Well now I don't even see a hand in the one on my right. I see a holster and something shiny can if you don't mind. Outline what you see cause I see a wrist but hand is now missing my eyes are confused. I would appreciate it. All IMO always.

 

[Floridian]

Let's work with the original photo. The two photos of the suspect have been altered such that there are 400 pixels per inch using professional Adobe Photoshop software. What do we see at the end of his sleeve in the two photos?

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The right photo is his hand coming out of his pocket. I clearly see the flesh color of his hand pulling out of his pocket.. I have thought this from the beginning.. This is only my opinion. And I keep seeing..

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[Floridian]

Let's work with the original photo. The two photos of the suspect have been altered such that there are 400 pixels per inch using professional Adobe Photoshop software. What do we see at the end of his sleeve in the two photos?

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I also think that's about the time they said he was turning around with his leg.

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[Bemused]

Let's work with the original photo. The two photos of the suspect have been altered such that there are 400 pixels per inch using professional Adobe Photoshop software. What do we see at the end of his sleeve in the two photos?

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If between the FBI, ISP, DHS and any LE agency in this country they don't have better imaging software and capabilities than PhotoShop I'm left wondering do they purchase at BestBuy or Walmart? I doubt it, IMO.

 

[Lilowlet]

The right photo is his hand coming out of his pocket. I clearly see the flesh color of his hand pulling out of his pocket.. I have thought this from the beginning.. This is only my opinion. And I keep seeing..

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See I feel tunnel vision now.😨

 

[Burnt Toast]

. I'm wondering why LE haven't put something more in their description on IF they think BG has a mustache as well. Maybe some thing like "we believe he may be wearing a mustache or has since shaved it off" As when they do find BG sure as heck he's not going to have a mustache then. It just might jar someones memory. Here on WS we look closely at pictures put out by LE and the media, but to someone just driving by looking at a billboard may not scrutinize BG's pic so much. But a better description would stand out. All JMO

i think the peson or persons who know BG won't have to scrutinize it like people seem to do here. If they know him they will likely recognize him in a glance. If it was my father, brother, neighbor or co-worker i could recognize them even with a crappy photo.

 

[Shiressleuth]

New user here, so this is my first post. I registered specifically to reply to this. Not sure how to word this without giving out too much info on an individual, but I was lurking this thread over the last couple of hours and have noticed something. There was an earlier post regarding a local "journalist" taking pictures of the bridge area, allegedly during the initial search or shortly after, and posting these pictures to Facebook. There is a bit of controversy regarding the times his pics were posted to his page. Hopefully one of you know what I am talking about without me posting the guy's name. But the individual has a beard, which is what I am seeing in this photo. He has red hair and a pretty distinctive nose, which I again somewhat see in this photo. Hopefully one of you know what I am referencing, and if so, please take a look at his Facebook pictures and see if you also see the distinct similarities I am seeing.

Also, great work all of you are doing. I just found this site this morning and I am extremely impressed with everything. I am originally from a small-ish town, also in Indiana, so I know the mentality of the area and how devastating this has to be. I am also a former investigator for the Indiana Department of Corrections and was fortunate enough to get a lot of training from a lot of good agencies and this case has really dragged me down the rabbit hole as a human being, a father of two girls, and someone with an investigative background. Keep up the good work! Looking forward to interacting with all of you!

EDIT: I was replying to Floridian's picture of BG where they were debating as to whether or not someone saw a beard....should have replied with quote so I didn't make my first post looking like a big dummy head...

Welcome Later, Perhaps you should call this in? Are you saying the journo published his pics early and therefore it seems suspicious?

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Originally Posted by BarryManilow
I can only assume by the assertion that RL is guilty, that those that subscribe to this theory, besides any logical motive beyond "got angry so brutally murdered two girls in a manner that shook seasoned LE. Then went to buy fish." Leaving the bodies laying openly in his back yard. Then somehow evaded anyone in the neighborhood where he has lived for 50 years identifying his image or voice. As well as LE who are still openly seeking BG. I again implore those to subscribe to this to cite one case in the annals of crime, where a murderer left his victims openly, not buried, not hidden in their back yard.

Or even a case of a 77 year old abducting and killing two teens?

I've been asking that for awhile and have yet to read an answer from those who are on the RL is BG express.

Also, after catching up just now and seeing the questions asked, please check out the media thread on the first page of every thread. Those folks put in so much hard work to create maps and links that will answer so many questions that keep coming up. I really appreciate everyone who contributed to that thread.

 

[Bemused]

This was published on Feb 17 by the Daily Mail. It claims that the roadways were not blocked until Wednesday. That gives a killer a very long time to come and go from the CS.

This crime took longer than thirty minutes because sadistic sexual killers take their time fulfilling their evil deeds.

I'm sorry, but unless you've seen the evidence and the autopsy reports, you don't know a sadistic sexual assault happened any more than I don't know who committed the murders. We don't know. You may be believe it did but thinking and proving are two different things. What we do know is the majority of the puzzle pieces are missing and no one is giving us any official hints where we can find them, IMO.

 

[Elley Mae]

Let's work with the original photo. The two photos of the suspect have been altered such that there are 400 pixels per inch using professional Adobe Photoshop software. What do we see at the end of his sleeve in the two photos?

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Round white circle.

 

[Burnt Toast]

I agree with you. I think RL has been shrunk to fit so to speak. MOO.

i don't think anyone is trying to compare their head size or heights but instead trying to show similar mannerisms...how they carry themselves when putting the two pics side by side.

 

[otto]

The right photo is his hand coming out of his pocket. I clearly see the flesh color of his hand pulling out of his pocket.. I have thought this from the beginning.. This is only my opinion. And I keep seeing..

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I think I figured out how the photo on the right was modified to give the appearance of a bright circle - unsharp mask with the radius maxed. I could continue fooling around with filters to make all sorts of things appear.

 

[Floridian]

I thought pick up time was about 3.30 and LE called at 5.30 when the girls were not found ?

Yes I would love to know if whoever asked to look on RL land at 6.30 did a proper search as then we would know if the bodies were there all the time.

I'm so confused about that.. I wondered if they looked thoroughly or were covered up or brought to that location. How would you overlook something like that. There's no way it blended something would've looked obvious. Please understand this, I'm not blaming anyone but why did the family stop looking at dark. I myself and all my people would've been out there with flashlights. Once again I'm not judging anybody, I ask this because we're they being made to leave? Did the police make them stop? Which wouldn't make sense considering at that time it wasnt a crime scene.. Oh my god, I just got this thought and feeling over me, what if the girls were close by and could hear them being looked for. I can't imagine. I feel so sick now. As a mother, that thought alone makes me cry.. This devil needs to be brought down... Can't even imagine the families everyday struggle of just getting by day to day.. They need peace and justice.. Poor sweet innocent children. This just isn't fair. So overwhelmed right now with emotions.[emoji22] [emoji22] [emoji22]

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