IN-Abigail Williams, 13, & Liberty German, 14, Delphi, 13 Feb 2017 #52

[Deleted member 102539]

It was several serial several threads back, About a month ago.. People"on Ws was discussing him turning because the way his leg was turning..

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There was a thought of BG turning to his left side to pass Abby. Abby seemed to be in front of him and "in the way". One saw a light brown peace of her sweat jacket on the edge of the pic to the left (before it became blurred).

 

[Bemused]

Weren't LE hinting there could be 2 perps involved? Also the girls could have been held alive somewhere even in a vehicle then in the night brought back there alive and then murdered? LE haven't said if where they were found is the only real crime scene. One never knows....

The quote is here "could've".

http://nypost.com/2017/03/02/massiv...d-girls-generates-tons-of-tips-but-few-leads/

 

[Shiressleuth]

I'm a smoker, I think NOT.

I smoked for more than fifty years and my parents and siblings all smoked too. But I don't see how that affects our vision or opinion. IMO.

 

[Bird of Paradise]

There was a thought of BG turning to his left side to pass Abby. Abby seemed to be in front of him and "in the way". One saw a light brown peace of her sweat jacket on the edge of the pic to the left (before it became blurred).

For those who feel that could be her coat, I am curious. Wouldn't that place her walking on the edge of the tracks? If that's her arm, she's almost falling off the side then.

 

[Dawning3]

[emoji3][emoji3] I like Murr...but Q cleans up nice too, and its funny to be bringing him up in this forum, ironically because he's a perfect example of not only perfectly modeling the Hat style that could be a possibility, but the fact that he's a prime example of someone that can be dressed sort of sloppily like a bum at times and other times can be a very good looking Sharp Dressed Man ...just goes to prove how anyone can leave very different Impressions just by the clothing they wear or the way their hair and facial hair is..and Q , if for some reason you're reading here please don't take that the wrong way, I love you man. Haha . And speaking of famous people I saw yesterday a minister post about Abby and Libby. He is someone Libby followed and looked up to. He just added another $1,000 to the reward fund yesterday. Here is the video he made
https://youtu.be/pUHwL4aTVT8

Whoa!!!! There must be some very unwholesome thoughts at that church. It looks like a mob of screaming parishioners have already ripped his shirt.


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[asyousay]

It's so weird how a situation can change with a click of fingers.

14.07 pm and everything seems fine on that bridge. Just two normal teenagers taking photos for social media. Not a care in the world.

And 20 mins later give or take they was about to be kidnapped and killed. It's mind boggling.

:moo:

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I smoked for more than fifty years and my parents and siblings all smoked too. But I don't see how that affects our vision or opinion. IMO.

Quote Originally Posted by Shiressleuth View Post
I have given up looking at it now as I cannot see hardly anything that is being mentioned, watch, videocam, hair, hat, hoodie, rucksack, puppy (almost saw that one), scarf, tash, goatee, fu man chu etc. Only thing I get an idea there is a cig in his mouth, the side that has the sun on it. My two pennworth FWIW.

bbm
I answered: I'm a smoker, I think NOT. - No, my vision and opinion isn't affected by smoking (maybe by age).

 

[WebSight]

I agree, FromGermany. I noticed how clever you were on Missy Bevers' threads, especially in regards to images.

I feel it is a catheter bag hanging at his left leg and probably IV tubing stuffed in his clothing, as well. I've suspected that for a long time and would not mention it because I did not want to impose needless fear. Since there has not been an arrest, I'm busting out with all of my ammo, slowly but steady.

A catheter bag hanging outside his clothing?

 

[Eileen730]

Thank you Jethro for this. I think it's too easy to think that all the searchers had to do was quickly walk through some land and not understand how they couldn't be found. Watching the video (sorry no link) of the man who discovered the deer stand proves the difficulty in navigating. He had been out there before IIRC and the next day lost sight of the deer stand.

Also want to point out, there was no guarantee the girls were even in the woods. If they had been somewhere else people would probably be asking why the searchers spent so much time in the woods instead of being somewhere else. Hindsight and all. I really think they did their best and if you listen to the talk on the scanner thread, you will understand.

Thing is they went to RLs and asked for permission to search that very evening.
Now did they or didn't they.

 

[Eileen730]

A catheter bag hanging outside his clothing?

lol I just spit my soda all over my keyboard. Lol

 

[BigCityAccountant]

I agree, FromGermany. I noticed how clever you were on Missy Bevers' threads, especially in regards to images.

I feel it is a catheter bag hanging at his left leg and probably IV tubing stuffed in his clothing, as well. I've suspected that for a long time and would not mention it because I did not want to impose needless fear. Since there has not been an arrest, I'm busting out with all of my ammo, slowly but steady.

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Urostomy bag perhaps?

 

[Jethro4WS]

Accusations? Not at all. I am saying that any photo that shows a bright round circle at the location of his hand, with the implication that it is a watch, has been altered with filters that change the photo. I think this is obvious to anyone who regularly uses professional photo imaging software such as Adobe Photoshop.

The photo on the left has been circulated as an accurate inverted photo. The image on the right has been inverted using photoshop without any additional modifications. They are not the same. Why not? Furthermore, why are we relying on an inverted photo with filters to interpret what appears to be his right hand?

I believe there is something reflective near where you would find BG's right wrist. None of the areas of BG's skin that are in direct sunlight, other than near the right wrist location, is similarly reflective. You can see this in the original source image without even enlarging it or any manipulation - it is clearly brighter.

So what is it that you see?

By the way, you should get the source image of BG from the Indiana State Police website rather than the image you used that appears to have come from a media source (Daily Mail?) which may have been modified for publication.

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I agree, FromGermany. I noticed how clever you were on Missy Bevers' threads, especially in regards to images.

I feel it is a catheter bag hanging at his left leg and probably IV tubing stuffed in his clothing, as well. I've suspected that for a long time and would not mention it because I did not want to impose needless fear. Since there has not been an arrest, I'm busting out with all of my ammo, slowly but steady.

First: :blushing: You are much too friendly but thank you!

Second: I searched a lot (!!) of catheder bags - you are so right. But wearing it visible?? I also searched tools/devices used by meat packers/hunters/fishermen (re the white thing looking out of BG's blue jacket) - without success.
Btw: Today I searched for Nike Soccer Indoor Shoes .... (also BG).

 

[Shiressleuth]

I have thought this also, they could have snipped BG's image from a woods or trail pic libby got, then pasted him on bridge for public to view it. Maybe had to crop out the original background?

Why would they do that? I can't see what the benefit would be.

 

[otto]

I believe there is something reflective near where you would find BG's right wrist. None of the areas of BG's skin that are in direct sunlight, other than near the right wrist location, is similarly reflective. You can see this in the original source image without even enlarging it or any manipulation - it is clearly brighter.

So what is it that you see?

By the way, you should get the source image of BG from the Indiana State Police website rather than the image you used that appears to have come from a media source (Daily Mail?) which may have been modified for publication.

I see a man with his hands in his pockets, and the right hand is visible between his sleeve and his pocket.

In the altered photo, the suspect has a white circle on his hand and a white circle on his cheek. If the white circle on his hand is a watch, what is the white circle on his face?

Do you have a link to the police photo?

 

[Bemused]

I see a man with his hands in his pockets, and the right hand is visible between his sleeve and his pocket.

In the altered photo, the suspect has a white circle on his hand and a white circle on his cheek. If the white circle on his hand is a watch, what is the white circle on his face?

Do you have a link to the police photo?

http://www.in.gov/isp/delphi.htm

ETA "found on Liberty German's cell phone" tells me they recovered the phone and IMO it was smashed.

Additionally, investigators have released a voice recording, extracted from a video found on Liberty "Libby" German's cell phone, that may be connected to the homicides. Click one of the following links to download the recording:

 

[Bird of Paradise]

Thing is they went to RLs and asked for permission to search that very evening.
Now did they or didn't they.

Well Eileen, who just :silly: how am I supposed to know the answer to that question my friend?
Yes, I know it wasn't directed at me. But seriously now, how long would it take to search 40 acres in the dark stepping on downed tree limbs. Did I mention in the dark? :biggrin:

 

[BigCityAccountant]

A catheter bag hanging outside his clothing?

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LOL WebSight. I said the same thing.

Alternatives maybe a cell phone construction accessory pouch or an ipad pouch?

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DG510...001P30BVY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

 

[Deleted member 102539]

I agree, FromGermany.
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I feel it is a catheter bag hanging at his left leg and probably IV tubing stuffed in his clothing, as well. I've suspected that for a long time and would not mention it because I did not want to impose needless fear. Since there has not been an arrest, I'm busting out with all of my ammo, slowly but steady.

IF it was an Urostomy bag /catheder bag then it would mean BG had been a patient in hospital, at that time or previous?

 

[Bemused]

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LOL WebSight. I said the same thing.

Alternatives maybe a cell phone construction accessory pouch or an ipad pouch?

https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DG510...001P30BVY/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Or a bag of tacos or candy. I can't tell what the heck it is except a man...I think, but it could be a hefty woman dressed like a man, IMO.