IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #1

  • #241
If it's not a family with substance abuse problems, imo.



What I want to know is, did this happen before or after the man got home from the alleged cigar run? Did the sisters know if he was home sleeping at the time? Because she might have been told to put on her coat, we're leaving for a party.

The cigar run was allegedly at 6am. The story about Aliahna leaving was allegedly at 10am.
 
  • #242
I was thinking along those same lines. Maybe LE want to keep this case quiet, because they have their eyes on someone. They can be collecting solid evidence, in order to nail the person. Praying for the best! moo

I hope you are correct. Personally, I have pretty much given up on any faith in the police I might once have had. Even in cases where a body is recovered or an arrest is made, once the details come out it seems as often as not that it was a pack of Inspector Clouseau's stumbling and tripping than disciplined professionals methodically solving a case.

The cynic is me says that what they do BEST is making serious sounding phrases while saying as little as possible to the public that employs them. In a case like this calling off the searches is insane. You stop looking when the girl is found. This little girl could be alive, lost in the woods on Christmas, and these guys aren't out there looking. It's unbelievable.
 
  • #243
yes Chris, she COULD be out in the woods, if indeed she left the house of her own accord(or not). The old address, in public records for the mother/stepdad is about 12-13 miles south. What if she decided she wanted to head there? She COULD be lost and she is a little ole thing, and has special needs to boot. I hope like heck LE IS searching, albeit quietly.
So frustrating.
 
  • #244
IMO...I actually think that LE may be having to wade thru a bunch of who is who , and what is what, in relation to Aliahna.
Plus I am even beginning to wonder WHEN she went missing, and would love to know an adult other than the friend or mother who can say specifically when they saw her last.
 
  • #245
Allen County Sheriff's Department officials say they will discontinue searches until they obtain new information on the whereabouts of 9-year-old Aliahna Marie Maroney Lemmon.

Also from the same article:
Aliahna’s grandpa died earlier this month. Sepponen says the family hasn't been coping very well and her cousin, Tara, also Aliahna’s mother, has been very ill.
http://www.indianasnewscenter.com/n...ng-for-Missing-9-Year-Old-Girl-136207958.html

Just the way that those statements in the second snip are strung together leads me to believe that mother might not be sick with a fever as originally reported, or even sick with a physical illness at all, but possibly debilitated due to emotional issues related to the grandfather's death. I could very well be wrong, but that has been my idea for a little while now, and the article seems to confirm that, be it in a backhanded way.



I also don't like how they say there will be no searches until they get more information...doesn't that just sound convenient to someone that may have had a part in her disapparance?


I have two thoughts with regards to no new searches and LE's comments which seem to be asking citizens not to search. they either found a body which has not been id'd and won't be for several weeks (because it can only be id'd via DNA) I'm thinking back to Toni Kellers case (NIU freshman fall of 2010) . IIRC LE had a very badly burnt body for a full week before it was announced publicly and it took months and months iirc for an id due to the state of Toni's remains.

-or-

LE can not get an accurate time last seen, too many conflicting stories, thus they can't determine where to continue to search.


jmo
 
  • #246
This whole thing has me ticked off. If the child did have ODD /CD- that's definitely not a child you barely keep your eye on, especially if other children are in the house. I think LE has a good idea what happened. Regardless, if they believe she met with foul play they should still be searching! We all know what happens during a trial if cause of death can't be determined!
 
  • #247
BBM
Of course that's what's going to happen. Doesn't everybody have an extra kid hanging out on Christmas morning??!!! I guess the people at the hang-out house said, "Oh look what Santa brought us...another kid!" Sheesh.


My thoughts exactly, but I wasn't able to find the words.....
 
  • #248
  • #249
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20111226/LOCAL07/312269944

Published: December 26, 2011 3:00 a.m.

Interview with Amber Story (Maternal Grandmother), Tarah Souders (Mother) and also in article Mr. Mike Plumadore quoted as the owner of the home where Aliahna was staying when she went missing.

Aliahna and her two sisters had been staying with Mr. P about a week because TS (Mom) had been sick with flu. TS's Husband (Aliahna's stepfather) works nights and sleeps during the day.

MP left the girls at the home about 6 am and went to purchase a cigar at a gas station about a mile away. Surveillance footage confirms that he was there at about that time.

“I had deadbolted the door,” he said. “When I got back, all the girls was here.”

He said he smoked his cigar and went back to sleep about 6:30 a.m. He woke up about 10 a.m. when Aliahna’s mother called. After that call, he realized the door to the home was unlocked and that Aliahna was gone. He said Aliahna’s sisters, both 6 years old, told him that Aliahna had left with her mom.

Plumadore believed them, so he locked the door and went back to sleep until about 1:30 p.m. He said that when he woke up, he and the two other girls went about their day until about 8:30 p.m. That’s when he talked to Aliahna’s mom and learned that Aliahna was not with her, and authorities were notified.

TS said she last saw the 3 girls (one of them is a stepdaughter) on Tuesday after school.

Grandmother says that Aliahna has a history of sleep walking, even unlocking doors and going outside while sleeping.

Mr. P does have a record. (didn't snip but it's in the article).

Article was fairly short but I snipped a little and just paraphrased the rest as not to violate TOS.
 
  • #250
Sorry Jayarre I was typing that up before I saw your post :)
 
  • #251
Before Aliahna went missing, she and her two sisters had been staying with family friend Mike Plumadore for about a week because Aliahna’s mother had been sick with the flu and Aliahna’s stepfather works at night and sleeps during the day.
He said he smoked his cigar and went back to sleep about 6:30 a.m. He woke up about 10 a.m. when Aliahna’s mother called. After that call, he realized the door to the home was unlocked and that Aliahna was gone. He said Aliahna’s sisters, both 6 years old, told him that Aliahna had left with her mom.

Plumadore believed them, so he locked the door and went back to sleep until about 1:30 p.m.

So, Mr. Plumadore who sleeps through the day is a better caregiver than the stepfather who sleeps through the day... why?
 
  • #252
So, Mr. Plumadore who sleeps through the day is a better caregiver than the stepfather who sleeps through the day... why?

Maybe because he doesn't have a job to be at that night? Stepfather NEEDS to sleep in order to work?

Or maybe just simply because Mr P doesn't have a woman with the flu living with him???
Maybe they were simply worried the girls would get sick, about not exposing them to the flu... less about who took care of them.

I also have to say that the "why didn't she leave them with the STEPfather?" line is throwing me a bit. It's odd.
Usually we are saying "Another stepfather??? When will women learn that the boyfriend/stepfather is the most dangerous person to their child?"

But this time... people are angry that she left the kids (including her stepdaughter) with a family friend instead of the father/stepfather.
Yet, if they had been left with the stepfather... it'd be the usual... "another stepfather, when will women learn...." situation.

My poor brain can't handle the contradictions... it's spinning. :banghead:
 
  • #253
“I had deadbolted the door,” he said. “When I got back, all the girls was here.”

He said he smoked his cigar and went back to sleep about 6:30 a.m. He woke up about 10 a.m. when Aliahna’s mother called. After that call, he realized the door to the home was unlocked and that Aliahna was gone. He said Aliahna’s sisters, both 6 years old, told him that Aliahna had left with her mom.

Did they say they saw the mom come pick her up or just that she said she was gonna go be with mom?


But Aliahna does have a history of sleepwalking, even unlocking doors and going outside while sleeping, her grandma said.

If she was there at 6:30 when MP went back to sleep and left sometime after that she is not likely to have been sleepwalking IMO. It would be close to her normal wake up time (I am assuming, but she'd have to get up at about seven if she goes to school, wouldn't she?) and her sisters were awake already as well.

Kids tend to sleepwalk within an hour or two of falling asleep and may walk around for anywhere from a few seconds to 30 minutes.
http://kidshealth.org/parent/growth/sleep/sleepwalking.html#
 
  • #254
So, Mr. Plumadore who sleeps through the day is a better caregiver than the stepfather who sleeps through the day... why?

They now say the other girls are both 6 years old and one is a step sister. What did these two little girls do from the time they got up till he got up at 1:30 PM. Did anyone feed them, did they go outside to play...what was going on in the morning hours.
 
  • #255
Maybe because he doesn't have a job to be at that night? Stepfather NEEDS to sleep in order to work?

Or maybe just simply because Mr P doesn't have a woman with the flu living with him???
Maybe they were simply worried the girls would get sick, about not exposing them to the flu... less about who took care of them.

I also have to say that the "why didn't she leave them with the STEPfather?" line is throwing me a bit. It's odd.
Usually we are saying "Another stepfather??? When will women learn that the boyfriend/stepfather is the most dangerous person to their child?"

But this time... people are angry that she left the kids (including her stepdaughter) with a family friend instead of the father/stepfather.
Yet, if they had been left with the stepfather... it'd be the usual... "another stepfather, when will women learn...." situation.

My poor brain can't handle the contradictions... it's spinning. :banghead:

When I've used the line about stepfathers it's usually been a case with lots of warning signs, other than just the stepfather relationship. He's a drug user, a problem drinker, has a criminal record, has been violent before, is a sex offender etc. . I like to think it's more a case of "don't trust the people you know you can't trust" than "don't trust any stepfathers".

Are there warning signs about the family friend? He lived with a child molester, why? He has a criminal record for battery, why? He goes out at 6 am when he's the sole caretaker of a nine year old special needs child and two six year olds and leaves them alone behind deadbolted doors, why? What if there is a fire? What does he do all night that he needs to sleep all day, while supposedly in charge of two six year olds? taking care of said children?

He could be a long standing family friend, practically a family member if he's lived with the grandfather for long (what was his relationship to grandfather?) but just based on what we know now I don't trust him yet.

If the girls really said Aliahna left with mom it's imo strange that he wasn't alarmed by the mom's call in which she can have said no such thing.
 
  • #256
  • #257
He said he smoked his cigar and went back to sleep about 6:30 a.m. He woke up about 10 a.m. when Aliahna’s mother called. After that call, he realized the door to the home was unlocked and that Aliahna was gone. He said Aliahna’s sisters, both 6 years old, told him that Aliahna had left with her mom.

Plumadore believed them, so he locked the door and went back to sleep until about 1:30 p.m.

What!? That makes no sense at all!

6:30am He goes back to sleep after smoking cigar.

10:00am Aliahna's mother calls him to what? Check on her daughter who is supposedly in his care?

After the call from Aliahna's mother when he most likely told her everything was fine???? Then he notices the child is missing???? No freaking way!:banghead:

Why would Aliahna's mother have called him if Aliahna had already left with her mother?
 
  • #258
  • #259
http://www.fwdailynews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=15445&Itemid=6


By Valerie Caviglia [email protected]
Monday, 26 December 2011 08:04

FORT WAYNE — A 9-year-old girl from Fort Wayne was still missing Monday morning, even after officials searched for hours into the night on Christmas Eve for her whereabouts.

<snipped>
Family members said Lemmon is partially blind, has hearing problems and suffers from post traumatic stress disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and oppositional defiant with conduct disorder.
 
  • #260
To sum up the possibilities, Aliahna might:

- leave "friend's" house and get lost
- leave "friend's" house and get kidnapped in her way home
- leave "friend's" house and have some kind of accident
- leave "friend's" house, and meet some kind of misfortune at home
- not leave the "friend's" house at all...

As for now it seems the so called friend is either incredibly careless and not the sharpest tool in the shed, or lying and hiding something, IMO.
 

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