IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #2

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  • #641
Remember in little Aliayahs case how the family told everyone the FBI told them they couldn't talk, and then Aunt Vicki found out that was a huge lie...

just sayin.....

It's rather uncommon for the FBI to say "don't talk" while an investigation is under way. In many cases they want the primary players to yap away. There isn't a gag order in place is there?

Like Lena Lunsford, I suspect Tarah Souders doesn't want to talk.

Just MHO

Mel
 
  • #642
this wasnt just someone in their lives. this was a man that was going to be alone in a home with three naive, innocent minded, little girls for days at a time. even a clean background check wouldnt be enough for me. its just not something you do. it is just not a situation that i would take a chance on, its not an option to put little girls in this situation.


Welcome to WS Victory. :welcome:
 
  • #643
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glYvpmFPI8o"]Aliahna Lemmon: Nancy 12/27/11 - YouTube[/ame]
 
  • #644
When I was 6 and 7 yrs old, my mom had a nasty divorce situation. She asked her younger brother to move in and babysit us after school every day until she came home from work. He began having sex with me and tormenting and frightening me in other ways, just about every afternoon for a couple of years. I never ever told on him. It was not until he died suddenly 20 years later that I had the nerve to tell my mom what happened.

He had me tell my mother and grandparents many lies during that time. He would take us to the movies, and make us tell them we saw the Lipazon Stallion Disney movie when we actually saw Children Of The Corn. I remember waking up with nightmares, and my mom would say what happened, did you watch and scary movie and I would lie right to her face to protect my abusive uncle. I still do not totally understand it, but it is like a mind warp these sick perps have over their victims. He would use the money that mom would give him and then have us lie and say he took us out to eat, when he didn't really feed us, he bought himself something instead. But I would not tell for a few reasons. Sometimes he would threaten to hurt my baby brother, or sometimes he would hold my kitty over the balcony, and threaten to throw her onto the pavement. Other times he would be really sweet and nice and beg us not to tell because he would get in trouble, and in some ways he was really good to us. It is very confusing for a little child.

And that is kind of how I see this guy. I think he was sometimes nice and caring and played with them and had fun with them. That is how my uncle worked it. He paid us special attention and my mom had so much to deal with during the divorce and trying to find a good job and be the mom and dad that she was glad to have a 'nice' family member to step up to the plate the way he did. He baked us birthday cakes and fixed our bicycles and walked us home from school. That is how he become like a snake in the grass.
And that is why Grandma would defend this MP guy. Because he would put on a face of a caring and nurturing guy. Just like my 'favorite' uncle did.

I really don't understand it, but I do completely believe it, Katy.

In healthy family dynamics, you can't keep the kids from spilling embarrassing details, who got a speeding ticket, etc. In unhealthy family dynamics, kids will keep incredible secrets including murder of a sibling or continuous sexual abuse.

I'm sorry this awful stuff happened to you. :(

It sounds like this current case was solved pretty quickly, and maybe LE was able to "divide and conquer" the two sisters to figure out they were not telling the truth. Hard to say, but the truth came out fairly quickly.
 
  • #645
maybe LE ought to look at exactly how Grandpa died...in the home and all


--i posted an article earlier today that the guy died of emphysema ( but you never know if that was hastened by a pillow over the face as a poster mentioned ( sorry i forget who that was, but i agreed.. )

--mike lucked out when grandpa died------he then had a trailer to call home.
 
  • #646
From google archives: It's PTV, this is all that is available free.

Miami Herald - May 18, 2000 - 29MB Neighbors BC
BUS DRIVER PUNCHED FOR REFUSING TO GIVE FREE RIDE
A man punched a Miami-Dade bus driver after the driver told him he couldn't get on without paying the fare. Sammie Lee Prater, the driver, had stopped at the 17th Street and Collins Avenue stop in Miami Beach to pick up Michael Plumadore at 10:50 a.m. May 8. When Plumadore, 26, of 1515 N. Miami Ave., got on the bus, he reportedly told the bus driver he had no money. When Prater told him to get off, Plumadore punched the bus door then he punched the driver, according to the...
Read more here: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we...=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM#storylink=cpy
 
  • #647
I just cannot wrap my mind around how anyone could do such a thing to ANYONE, much less to an innocent child. This poor little girl...
All I can say is I hope that every time I think of her, of any of these children, that I will take even the smallest step toward being a better person in their honor...
 
  • #648
BBM: :rocker: I agree ... and the Sheriff really "got to me" !


:waitasec: Maybe ... :innocent: Sheriff Fries and his team, along with the officers who cracked Tyler Dasher's mom -- could "lend a hand" in solving some of the other missing person's cases out there ...

Whatever Sheriff and his team did WORKED ... just a thought ... :innocent:

:woohoo:

Sheriff Fries was on the police force for 6 years when the April Marie Tinsley case occurred. He was part of the search team. He was interviewed about it when they brought the case back into the spotlight on AMW back in 2009. That guy has seen some bad stuff.
 
  • #649
Having raised three boys, I know that we moms do have super human strength. lol Thanks goodness for that. You are right, there is no excuse for 3 little girls being in a home alone with a man whether he is a sex offender or not. No reason for it. jmo

I am confused, where did Lyle Moser come into the picture and why was Aliahna's last name Lemmon? I can see the bio father relationship with the Maroney last name and the Mother, who is remarried to AS. I don't see the Moser connection or why her last name is Lemmon. Is Lemmon her mother's maiden name?

Yes, Lemmon is her maiden name. She was unwed and 18 when she gave birth to Ali.
 
  • #650
--i posted an article earlier today that the guy died of emphysema ( but you never know if that was hastened by a pillow over the face as a poster mentioned ( sorry i forget who that was, but i agreed.. )

--mike lucked out when grandpa died------he then had a trailer to call home.

True that; but then it seems he was also expected to babysit young children quite a lot for that privilege. I wonder what he REALLY thought about that!
 
  • #651
I am confused, where did Lyle Moser come into the picture and why was Aliahna's last name Lemmon? I can see the bio father relationship with the Maroney last name and the Mother, who is remarried to AS. I don't see the Moser connection or why her last name is Lemmon. Is Lemmon her mother's maiden name?

LM is the father of one of Tarah's children (the 6 yr old, I believe) I dont know if they were ever married. Tarah's maiden name was Lemmon, that's why Aliahna's last name is Lemmon.

ETA: Im assuming that Tarah and D. Maroney were not married when Aliahna was born.
 
  • #652
From google archives:

Miami Herald - May 18, 2000 - 29MB Neighbors BC
BUS DRIVER PUNCHED FOR REFUSING TO GIVE FREE RIDE
A man punched a Miami-Dade bus driver after the driver told him he couldn't get on without paying the fare. Sammie Lee Prater, the driver, had stopped at the 17th Street and Collins Avenue stop in Miami Beach to pick up Michael Plumadore at 10:50 a.m. May 8. When Plumadore, 26, of 1515 N. Miami Ave., got on the bus, he reportedly told the bus driver he had no money. When Prater told him to get off, Plumadore punched the bus door then he punched the driver, according to the...
Read more here: http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we...=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM#storylink=cpy

Uh oh, sounds like a young sociopath in the making.
 
  • #653
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Originally Posted by believe09
Agreed, BUT, how many people actually run the people in their lives for priors?

I don't know how many people actually do this, BUT I do...I ran all my daughters boyfriends and when I was single I ran every man I dated. Perhaps it's overdoing it but I'd rather my family be safe.
 
  • #654
Also from google archives.

This obit lists Plumadore as having resided in Shelby NC in 1997.

Charlotte Observer, The : OBITUARY

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$2.95 - Charlotte Observer - Dec 29, 1997


...and grandchilden, BT of <city>, JT and Michael Plumadore, both of Shelby...... (paraphrased so I could remove names).

If he was convicted of a crime requiring him to register as an RSO, I would assume it may have occured in Cleveland County since Shelby is in Cleveland County.
 
  • #655
this wasnt just someone in their lives. this was a man that was going to be alone in a home with three naive, innocent minded, little girls for days at a time. even a clean background check wouldnt be enough for me. its just not something you do. it is just not a situation that i would take a chance on, its not an option to put little girls in this situation.

ITA! I don't understand. I truly do not understand. I don't have children of my own yet...but I do have two dogs. They mean the world to me. If I had to leave them anywhere for a week...I would do my research. Check in daily with whomever had them...have a list of printed out rules...Naturally, they would be getting monetary compensation. I love my dogs.

I have yet to see where there was any monitoring by the family in Aliahna's case. The kids are staying with an unrelated male for a full week. I don't understand it. I sincerely doubt MP was the only option open to the family. I would like to know why those three were with him for a solid week. I would like to know what type of plans the family had for the children for Christmas Eve? Christmas?

While this may have happened and has not been reported: Did any member of the family bother to go and visit the girls the entire week? Did they call? If the answer to both questions is NO...then I really don't see why ANYONE can defend that. Period. You live two doors down or whatever and your kids are over there for a week. You go check on them. Period. Flu or no flu...you go and check on them. I don't understand. I just don't understand. I doubt the police do either. Not one guest on NG's show tonite understood either.
 
  • #656
I am confused, where did Lyle Moser come into the picture and why was Aliahna's last name Lemmon? I can see the bio father relationship with the Maroney last name and the Mother, who is remarried to AS. I don't see the Moser connection or why her last name is Lemmon. Is Lemmon her mother's maiden name?

Lemmon is Aliahna's mother's father's last name (the one who died early Dec & harbored MP) -- so I assume it's her maiden name.

Maroney is Aliahna's father's last name (he lives in Iowa in the same county where MP had a DV charged dismissed in 2010 & where Aliahna's mother addressed a city council in Iowa)

Lyle Moser & Aliahna's mother had a 6 yo child together
I think I just read where Aliahna's mother is now with AS (her husband)
 
  • #657
I am confused, where did Lyle Moser come into the picture and why was Aliahna's last name Lemmon? I can see the bio father relationship with the Maroney last name and the Mother, who is remarried to AS. I don't see the Moser connection or why her last name is Lemmon. Is Lemmon her mother's maiden name?


--yes, the mom's maiden name is lemmon.

--she and D maroney are parents to aliahna ( hence her name---aliahna marie maroney lemmon )

--her father ( aliahna's grandfather --james lemmon ) was a registered sex offender, who lived with ( the accused ) murderer michael plumadore, a few doors down in the trailer park ( caregiver to dying james lemmon, grandpa ) and babysitter to the 3 girls
 
  • #658
this wasnt just someone in their lives. this was a man that was going to be alone in a home with three naive, innocent minded, little girls for days at a time. even a clean background check wouldnt be enough for me. its just not something you do. it is just not a situation that i would take a chance on, its not an option to put little girls in this situation.

and not only that, but one of them was partially deaf and blind, had ADD and post traumatic stress disorder!!!

I also think it is BS that he was a "family friend".......unless we can find out that they knew him before where they lived previously, they had only moved there, what was it 6 weeks ago or something. He was a friend of the granddad.....so they are saying he is a family friend, because he was prob nice to the old fella......

well he was probably getting free lodging.....and wasnt it written that it was a child molester that introduced him to granddad the child molester???? what a class act, most males I know would rather beat a convicted child molester around the head than befriend them.

No think 6 kids was all a bit much for mum......also do we know who grand dad molested ??????? and was it mums dad??????
 
  • #659
If that's the case, then why does Grandma seem to know so much about MP and his behaviors? How does the grandmother who lives in Florida know that MP would never hurt a child? I wonder what Grandma thinks now.

--yes, the mom's maiden name is lemmon.

--she and D maroney are parents to aliahna

--her father ( aliahna's grandfather --james lemmon ) was a registered sex offender, who lived with ( the accused ) murderer michael plumadore, a few doors down in the trailer park ( caregiver to dying james lemmon, grandpa ) and babysitter to the 3 girls

Okay just for clarification. Mom had 5 children. She had 3 girls and 2 boys. Did they all live with her? And if so, why were the girls with the neighbor and not the boys. Or were they all over there? ty
 
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