IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #2

[not_my_kids]

Well now isn't that interesting! Predictable paralysis! First she has the flu, now she is paralyzed??? Imagine that? But, don't despair, she will be able to walk in a few days.............that's good, I guess.

Okay, this I will comment on. When the flu goes on for some time, as TS's apparently had, and you end up in the hospital, they will occasionally test for diseases such as meningitis, which has the exact same symptoms as the flu, in some cases, just more severe. That requires a spinal tap to test for spinal meningitis. If they do that spinal tap wrong, it can result in the inability to walk, or it can result in the need to have a blood patch done, after which some doctors recommend not walking.

It is also possible that she may have fallen and chipped her tailbone, or pinched a nerve, both of which can cause short term paralysis.

I agree, it sounds hinky, but there are some very legitimate reasons that she could be partially paralyzed. Unless I see her jump up and dance a jig and then sit back down in her chair and insist she can't walk, I won't judge her based on that. Other things, yes, but that, no.

 

[billisbobby]

I don't understand taking children to a trailer part with an est. 15 RSO. A homeless shelter maybe could have helped. I fear this little girl suffered long before the unimaginable crime. Why does this happen!?!? Who even thinks--Im going to take a child, (possibly) sexually abuse them, kill them so they won't tell and dismember them????

 

[FrayedKnot]

Maybe this has already been theorized (I can't keep up with all of the posts) but if he killed her on the front porch (a highly unusual place to commit a premeditated murder) I wonder if he might have tried something with her, she ran from him, and he chased after her and killed her as she tried to leave. Just a theory and MOO and all of that.

That seemed odd to me, too. But then it occurred to me that this is MP's statement. Perhaps the child never actually left the trailer. Alive, that is.

Seems there would have been some pretty obvious signs on those light colored steps unless the brick he repeatedly bashed her with didn't break the skin. The head is extremely vascular. Even the tiniest scalp cut can bleed a scary amount.

Makes me think he hit her inside, possibly in an attempt to keep her quite while he hurt her. :furious:

 

[seattlechiquita]

Respectfully I think the children still left in the mother's care might disagree. God help them, because the system sure won't.

They are still with the mom? That is effed up. God help them, indeed

 

[lonetraveler]

re: the temporary paralysis-

My honest feeling on this is that it is an attempt to make mom 'really' look sick, so that people will stop blaming her for handing over her girls (but not her boys, oddly enough, hmmmm) to MP.

I could be way off and she really could have a verifiable medical condition that requires a wheelchair. I just don't think so.

Her entire 'illness' has been way too vague from the beginning. And to be fair, perhaps it is the reporting of her illness that is vague. Is there a way to check if she is on some kind of disability and receiving benefits?

But again, my gut tells me that it is a sympathy ploy. MOO.

They could roll her around on a gurney connected to "life support" equipment and I still would not be able to squeeze a drop of sympathy out for her. But, that's just me and my opinion.

 

[Kimster]

Perhaps there should be a law where children cannot live in a community where there are so many RSO housed? I can't see how that would work, but something needs to happen!

 

[FrayedKnot]

FB comments indicate that ALL children have been removed from the house. There was some arguing on different FB Walls of members of the family (step-dads) eluding to this late last evening . . . NOTE, this is FB

Thanks for that! :woohoo: I kept searching for MSM articles reporting that the children were removed, but couldn't find any.

I know it's just FB, but now the MSM countdown can begin. Should be reporting in aaaaany minute now.

 

[SuziQ]

:waitasec:

I'm thinking that these RSO lists need some major help and I'm starting to get deeply concerned.

There are 3 "tiers" of RSO classifications. I know of a case where someone was looking up RSO information on a guy for protective reasons and he didn't show up on ANY of the RSO lists online. So then they looked him up on Vinelink and it said he was on probation, but didn't say why. They called the probation dept. and he was a Class II offender and they said it was for a serious conviction.

So why in the sam hill wasn't he on any of the registers? Sounds to me like this is a problem here too! Why isn't he listed?

And yes, it's supposed to be a MINIMUM of ten years no matter WHAT "tier"! :banghead:

ITA. There are so many ways for an SO to fall through the cracks and not end up on the RSO list. One is if you are a juvenile offender. I understand the laws and why an underage person needs to be protected. But if there is a dangerous teen next door, you will not know about it unless it's through neighborhood gossip. Then you have the people who have been charged and never convicted. Also what you see on the list is probably what the conviction is after a plea down for a lesser sentence. Original crimes and charges are much worse.

Too many people assume that if someone is not on the RSO list that they are not an SO. I'm going to guess that the majority of SO's will never end up on an RSO list.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Perhaps there should be a law where children cannot live in a community where there are so many RSO housed? I can't see how that would work, but something needs to happen!

I think it (sadly) should be a no-brainer for a parent. It makes me sad to think we even NEED laws to tell us it's not a good idea to live in a community with a 50% RSO population.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Noob question... what is MSM? **the shame**

 

[krimekat]

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20111228/LOCAL07/312289983/1002/LOCAL

OMG!

If you are following FB pages/walls . . . more information's coming out about the time Aliahna & her family was living in Iowa; apparently, Aliahna was in Kindergarten & 1st grade in Centerville, Iowa (Appanoose County).

I think some of us were right on the $$$ -- this is a network of nastiness

 

[FrayedKnot]

They are still with the mom? That is effed up. God help them, indeed

There are FB posts saying they children HAVE been removed. Like KrimeKat said, remember it's FB, but still, it's something. I know I'm holding on to hope that it's the truth!

 

[Wise Old Owl]

ITA. There are so many ways for an SO to fall through the cracks and not end up on the RSO list. One is if you are a juvenile offender. I understand the laws and why an underage person needs to be protected. But if there is a dangerous teen next door, you will not know about it unless it's through neighborhood gossip. Then you have the people who have been charged and never convicted. Also what you see on the list is probably what the conviction is after a plea down for a lesser sentence. Original crimes and charges are much worse.

Too many people assume that if someone is not on the RSO list that they are not an SO. I'm going to guess that the majority of SO's will never end up on an RSO list.

Plus, now a days the prosecutors are offering deals that include a "don't have to register as an RSO".

We just had a middle school teacher (female) had a "relationship" with a 13/14 yr old - she had the option of "doing time" (6 years I think it was) and once out, not having to register as a RSO - OR not going to prison at all but having to register as a RSO for life. She took the prison time. So, once she's out - no one will be the wiser as to her "crime".

Clear as mud?

 

[krimekat]

Noob question... what is MSM? **the shame**

Main stream media - there is a thread that defines our acronyms -- I will see if I can locate it. [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=116963"]NEW Websleuths Lingo[/ame]


Welcome to WS
:welcome:

 

[Wise Old Owl]

Noob question... what is MSM? **the shame**

MSM = main-stream media

 

[FrayedKnot]

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20111228/LOCAL07/312289983/1002/LOCAL

OMG!

If you are following FB pages/walls . . . more information's coming out about the time Aliahna & her family was living in Iowa; apparently, Aliahna was in Kindergarten & 1st grade in Centerville, Iowa (Appanoose County).

I think some of us were right on the $$$ -- this is a network of nastiness

I am &*($%$##@%^&*^%(&*)^*^%& livid right now!

I have to leave my keyboard or I will get the boot for what I want to type right now *(&%$@#$$%^&%^&*(&*

 

[Dion]

I would like to know why the property managers of this "pedophile park" even rent to families with young children. This is just asking for trouble. It boggles my mind that young children are growing up surrounded by the worst imaginable people.

 

[peeples]

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20111228/LOCAL07/312289983/1002/LOCAL

OMG!

If you are following FB pages/walls . . . more information's coming out about the time Aliahna & her family was living in Iowa; apparently, Aliahna was in Kindergarten & 1st grade in Centerville, Iowa (Appanoose County).

I think some of us were right on the $$$ -- this is a network of nastiness

the girl suffered from post-traumatic stress disorder brought by abuse she suffered on two different occasions last year in Iowa. Story said the people who were responsible were caught by police, but he had no other details.

 

[Donjeta]

It was the neighbor and Lemmon who knew each other from prison.

"Shumaker said he introduced Plumadore to Lemmon shortly after Plumadore moved into the trailer park, and Plumadore moved in with Lemmon a few days later. Shumaker said he knew Lemmon because they were both sex offenders and were in jail together."

http://wap.indystar.com/localheadlines/article?a=2011112280328&f=1242

So what do you reckon are the odds that anybody introduced to your child molester relative by a child molester prison buddy is going to be a stand-up, moral sort of trustworthy citizen?

 

[Angelonline]

Perhaps there should be a law where children cannot live in a community where there are so many RSO housed? I can't see how that would work, but something needs to happen!

Unfortunately that would violate the Fair Housing Act specifically the section on Familial Status.. http://portal.hud.gov/hudportal/HUD?src=/program_offices/fair_housing_equal_opp/FHLaws/yourrights

I am real estate broker and the way I deal with this is I give every client a flyer with websites for RSO's and strongly encourage them to check around the location of the home they are looking at. We had one nice home that had a RSO across the street it was listed for 4 yrs before it sold primarily because of our "check the RSO list" advice to clients. It finally sold to an older couple with no children, so that was a good thing, IMO.