IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #5

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  • #141
I was molested by my oldest brother for 7 years. When I finally told a teacher, who alerted authorities, my brother was arrested at his college & my parents were called to come to my school, where they were told what was going on. In front of the principal, my mom was solicitous & nice to me, but as soon as we were in the car to go home, she turned on me & wanted to know why I'd made up such lies about my brother. He admitted that he'd abused me & my mother STILL refused to believe it. To this day, my entire family protects my brother & maintains he's a great guy. Even one of my sisters who was also abused by him (he molested both her & me on our parents' bed). The story that my family maintains is that I lied about my brother for attention. The fact that he was convicted of a class A felony means nothing except that I was horribly malicious in trying to wreck his life.

What's my point? I'm not horribly damaged even though I spent my life in an environment where molestation was an "okay" thing & the victim was blamed & demeaned & treated like crap once the truth came out. I grew up pretty screwed up, but counseling & choosing to cut my biological family out of my life so that the cycle of abuse could be broken & my own children could be spared the crap I went through was the route I chose.

I know it's not an easy road for survivors of incest, but dang it, TS didn't have to choose to give her children to a convicted felon!!! I don't care HOW bad her childhood was! I DON'T CARE how challenging her life has been. There's no good excuse in my book for not taking care of your kids. Absolutely zero. As such, I am so thoroughly disgusted by the adults involved in this case that I want to.... well, I can't say 'cuz it would get me a T.O. :mad:

BBM. Thank you! The myth that abusers go on to abuse is probably the only shame I carry as an adult abuse victim and makes me hesitant to share my history. It's a myth that is simply not true. The few that choose to inflict the same pain they receive....they no longer are victims, they are perps.
 
  • #142
The guy smokes a cigar in the early hours of the morning in a trailer with three sleeping kids???? That's not screwed up or suspicious enough??? The interviewer must have been shifting around and shaking his or her head in complete disgust and disbelief...only to look at the members of Aliahna's family sitting there and backing him up. WTH? BARF


My hubby's first comment was that he went to buy a cigar to turn it into a blunt.
 
  • #143
MP is a con-man, he had gotten through life that way. You would have thought though when he went to the 7-ll to dump the bags & get on tape in case he needed a back-up alibi, he would have at least gotten a jug of milk that he could have said was for "cereal for the girls", but I don't think MP could help himself to buy that cigar, I really think he was pleased & proud somehow; he deserved it & why that is why he gave that particular detail to the press along with kissing the top of her head.
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  • #144
There's the thing...we look at little girls and get so angry when we see that they've been groomed. But when those groomed little girls grow up and have absolutely no concept of what is right and wrong...we condemn them? At what moment does the magic wand get waved over these "groomed little girls" that turns them into mothers who have any sense about how to protect their own? And no, it is not necessarily waved when we groomed little girls become mothers. And yes, I said we.

Unless and until someone presents proof that this mother...whose father was a RSO...whose mother herself is obviously easily snookered...offered up her daughter...unless and until someone can show me that this mother at some point got that this person who obviously knows what to say and when to say it to sway people his way...and turned her daughter over anyway...unless and until someone can show me that this mother does not have bona fide medical issues that added to the eddy of incidents that led to this horrible, deplorable conclusion...then I absolutely refuse to condemn this woman.

This post speaks volumes and I wanted to thank you for it, Myte.

Your "magic wand" about smacked me in the head. I know someone exactly that would fit this profile. Abandoned by mom at age 3 and left in a house alone with almost as young brothers and as far as she can recall without turning into a basket case a dead infant. Sexual abuse by biological dad and yeah even that young she remembers. It comes in sort of streams.

Sent to an orphanage. Seperated from her brothers. Never got adopted, but sure enoug spend time enough foster homes. One being where she was sexually abused daily.

When I look at her I see a 3 year old sometimes. Certainly she had a wand waved over her as she trusted not a soul with her girls. She's an all around mom's mom. A phenomenal mother and more given the fact the only one she knew abandoned her. Her girls are her life, and people know this.

Hmmmmm what people don't know is she has a son. A son who was sexually abused by her current husband as a kid. To her he's a liar. Never happened. She knows my journey so she knows how I feel about this, but sticks to her guns. It saddens me, but this is when I see that strong, nobody will ever hurt my girls or grandgirls, I'm nurturer personified turn into the 3 year old. If that makes sense?

Do I believe her son? 100%. Does she? I think she does. He never touched her girls. If she were to say she did believe him I somehow think she'll finally do herself in.

Again thank you for that reality.
 
  • #145
Hi, first post here though I've been lurking here and there for about a year. I don't have cable so am not able to follow this case anywhere except online.

I have a few random thoughts/questions to throw out there. My apologies if they have already been brought up.

- I'm reading conflicting reports of MP's account of the night. In the newspaper report recently posted MP says he came in after going to the store and kissed her on the forehead. I seem to recall in a previous report that he said he walked in and assumed she was sleeping on the chair but it turned out to be a ple of clothes instead. I know it doesnt matter now because he has confessed. Just wanted to point that out.
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Nice to meet you! Great post and great questions.
Many of the news reports pop up on you tube. You may be able to view cable news shows there.

(Does your nic mean you have a fear of children? lol :crazy:)
 
  • #146
I think Alihana would be in second grade right? I'd like to know if any of her teachers sensed that something was going on. Also did she see a dr. regularly for check ups, sick visits or vaccines? imoo
 
  • #147
Ignorance of the law is never an excuse.................Ignorance of protecting your child should never be excused............I personally pray 2 Sisters never live with those 2 adults again.Mother bears responsibility in this child's death,she deserves a jail cell IMO.Only victim here is Aliahna................She should have NEVER brought her child any near a child molester.............he deserved to die alone instead a precious child died.MOM was it worth it?A daughters life for free rent?IMO no excuse for leaving your children with scum.Sick to death of stupidity or extreme neglect of children where is personal accountability ,responsibility..........Sorry but mom gets no sympathy from me if anything she makes me ill.
 
  • #148
My hubby's first comment was that he went to buy a cigar to turn it into a blunt.

Oh I bet he's right. I didn't think of that. I wonder if they found the wrapper? Philly Blunt flavored. The young folks always are buying them at the gas station.
 
  • #149
One thing that points me away from the mother setting up her child is that all three of the kids were with him. Usually if a mother is pimping a kid, she will only send that kid.

But keeping the kids together, that is usually a protective measure. I know for myself I tended to be more leinent with what my kids were allowed to do, if there was more than one of them.

Somehow I can see how this was arranged. Mom having the flu, being ill. MP being 'nice' offering assistance. Maybe the kids even sensed that it would be 'party time' with staying up late and watching TV at his house, they may have wanted to go with him for all I know. Kids are like that sometimes.

Yes he had a criminal record. But his criminal record wasn't against kids. And believe me, in some areas a criminal record isn't all that uncommon. So since they felt they knew him well, probably felt he wouldn't hurt the kids or disrespect her she let them go.

I have noticed several people have commented on her appearance changing and theorizing that she was on drugs, probably meth. But I haven't seen where she has ever been charged with any drug offenses. Am I wrong about that? What I haven't seen is anyone theorizing that Mom could have some chronic or debilitating illness. She could even be in the early stages of that. I did notice that some media mentioned Mom going to court in a wheelchair?

Oh another thing I noted. There were some comments about the fact that Mom went to authorities to get permission to bring a dog (possibly dangerous) into the city limits for her daughter. Many times in mental health situations, and even in sex abuse situations esp if the child is fearful, a therapy dog will be recommended. Now most cities have certain breeds that have been classified as possibly dangerous, whether the dog itself is known to be dangerous or not. I'm kinda thinking that is what was happening there. Again, not the actions of an uncaring parent since she did go to some trouble to try to get the permissions that were needed.
 
  • #150
A (sometimes not-so-subtle) theme permeating through this case's threads is anger at (somebody's) momma for not protecting (them). I submit that in doing so, we are diverting the blame from the perpetrator, which is in fact perpetrating grooming behavior. It's not "his" fault. It's "momma's" fault for not protecting "us." How about we get back to being pizzed at the person who cut this child into bits? And then we can figure out what the heck went wrong with a human being to bring him to this point?
 
  • #151
Ignorance of the law is never an excuse.................Ignorance of protecting your child should never be excused............I personally pray 2 Sisters never live with those 2 adults again.Mother bears responsibility in this child's death,she deserves a jail cell IMO.Only victim here is Aliahna................She should have NEVER brought her child any near a child molester.............he deserved to die alone instead a precious child died.MOM was it worth it?A daughters life for free rent?IMO no excuse for leaving your children with scum.Sick to death of stupidity or extreme neglect of children where is personal accountability ,responsibility..........Sorry but mom gets no sympathy from me if anything she makes me ill.
mikeysmommom,
I'm right beside you. The mom knew Alihana was abused by 2 males. Two-- She should have bent over backwards to protect her child. :banghead:
Instead it seems she moved into the middle of pedophile haven trailer court. :furious:
bbm
imoo
 
  • #152
A (sometimes not-so-subtle) theme permeating through this case's threads is anger at (somebody's) momma for not protecting (them). I submit that in doing so, we are diverting the blame from the perpetrator, which is in fact perpetrating grooming behavior. It's not "his" fault. It's "momma's" fault for not protecting "us." How about we get back to being pizzed at the person who cut this child into bits? And then we can figure out what the heck went wrong with a human being to bring him to this point?
Respectfully, I'm pizzed at the person who probably raped, killed and cut her little body up. I'm pizzed that this abuse even happened to this child AGAIN.
Imoo her mom had a duty to protect her little girl.

I'm sorry mtm but this mom gets no pass from me either. She allowed a SO to babysit her children.
 
  • #153
I'm pizzed at the person who probably raped, killed and cut her little body up. I'm pizzed that this abuse even happened to this child AGAIN.
Imoo her mom had a duty to protect her little girl.

I'm sorry mtm but this mom gets no pass from me either. She allowed a RSO to babysit her children.

Hold on, now. Did she know he was an RSO? Through all the "this person knew this person knew this person" stuff we've seen...did this mother actually know he was an RSO?
 
  • #154
Hold on, now. Did she know he was an RSO? Through all the "this person knew this person knew this person" stuff we've seen...did this mother actually know he was an RSO?

Was he an RSO? I know there were allegations against him with the 13 yo, but I thought that it never went through court? Thus he wouldn't be an RSO.
 
  • #155
There are more than a few articles here and on the net that reference this ****s harming children and sending pics of his genitals to a 13 year old.


If need be I can DROP the R in RSO and post sex offender.
imoo
 
  • #156
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...57f0defb9074d5

Slain Ind. girl's grandfather was sex offender

By TOM COYNE 27 Dec

FORT WAYNE, Ind. (AP) —
To assist her dying father, Tarah Souders made a choice: She moved her three young girls to a run-down trailer park in rural Indiana to help take care of him as his lungs rotted from emphysema.

She knew it could be dangerous
. The park of about two dozen homes was teeming with convicted sex offenders, with one living at nearly every address. She worried about neighbors with sex offense records who had been helping her father get by, according to trailer park residents. And before she arrived, she even asked her father if her children could be at risk for abuse from two specific men — in
 
  • #157
A (sometimes not-so-subtle) theme permeating through this case's threads is anger at (somebody's) momma for not protecting (them). I submit that in doing so, we are diverting the blame from the perpetrator, which is in fact perpetrating grooming behavior. It's not "his" fault. It's "momma's" fault for not protecting "us." How about we get back to being pizzed at the person who cut this child into bits? And then we can figure out what the heck went wrong with a human being to bring him to this point?

Another good point. However as a society and as mother's in particular I think it calls out to that most basic understanding that mother is the protector.

Case in point I'll quote my own mother "They're sick those perverts. They can't help themselves. It's a mother's job to protect her children from that". I absolutely get that. In contrast then isn't it a father's as well?

My mom blurted that out recently about the Sandusky case and I told her she was taking the blame from the abuser. She'd have none of it. Sadly I had to say "Mom was it your fault I was raped as a kid? Could you have known?" She was silent. Of course it wasn't her fault. She allowed me to accompany her best friend and her kids. How could she have known?

In all honesty in my heart I don't believe a woman should have allowed three little girls to share a trailer with a grown man. This especially when her child was already assaulted. Then again it's obvious this "family" isn't Beaver Clevers.
 
  • #158
I don't know if he was a RSO but anyone with any brains wouldn't leave 3 little girls or little boys for that matter with a 40 year old, single, felon that lived among and was friends with numerous sex offenders, no way no how.... IMO
 
  • #159
Plumadore accused of sending explicit messages to 13 year old girl, Aliahna was sexually abused in Centerville

By Kyle Ocker - Daily Iowegian Daily Iowegian

CENTERVILLE —

The family of a slain Indiana girl has significant ties to the Centerville area. The Daily Iowegian has learned that Michael Plumadore, who was charged with killing Aliahna Lemmon Friday, was accused of sending inappropriate text messages to a 13-year-old girl in 2010.
http://dailyiowegian.com/local/x1477...n-Indiana-girl


Thank you krimekat for the links posted in the links thread. :takeabow:
 
  • #160
There are more than a few articles here and on the net that reference this ****s harming children and sending pics of his genitals to a 13 year old.


If need be I can DROP the R in RSO and post sex offender.
imoo
Oh I think we can all agree he was that! So...a mother is supposed to know someone is a sex offender?

Is there any evidence that anyone knew any of the (pretty much established) SOs were indeed SOs?
 
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