IN - Aliahna Maroney Lemmon, 9, Fort Wayne, 23 Dec 2011 - #5

[AngelWings444]

MP is responsible for the death of Aliahna. However, I simply can't get beyond a "mother" knowing her 9 year old has been abused by two different men, yet she leaves her with a man for a week. Aliahna was a disabled CHILD, who was preyed on in the past. As a mother, I would not have let her out of my sight, period! Boo hoo that she was "ill", there is no excuse in my book. Her mother's judgement sucked back when Aliahna was a victim of abuse, when she moved into the trailer park, and leaving her with MP. No facts will change my opinion that the mother is not a good parent, who is incapable of making wise choices for her children.

 

[ssa]

I said, anyone who heard about this 13 year old being harassed, sent explicit pics/text and didn't report it, dropped the ball.

There is a bailiff right there in court, he is an officer and can take a criminal report. Usually, there is a victim's advocate office right there in the courthouse, as well as the district attorney. They should have been referred there, immediately. Furthermore, the judge could have issued a "criminal" protective order, on the spot. IF, it was taken care of this particular day.

JMO

I agree with you: someone, anyone who knew what was going on with the 13 year old in Iowa should have reported the matter to the police and/or CPS.

The problem here is that when Mom petitioned for the "civil protective order," the judge who reviewed her petition took no action. The minute the judge read Mom's petition, he should have called the police. However, right now under Iowa law, judges are not mandated reporters, so the judge was not required to refer this matter to the police or CPS. Iowa needs a law that requires the judge in a case alleging sexual assault on a child to immmediately refer the case to the police and/or CPS for investigation.

Also under Iowa law, the judge could not issue a "criminal protective order" for the 13 year old because such orders are issued only after the perp has been arrested and charged. So the police had to investigate MP, arrest him, and charge him before the 13 year old girl could be protected by a "criminal protective order."

As law enforcement officers, bailiffs are mandated reporters of child abuse in Iowa, but they have to know the allegations to make the report. Because Mom did not meet the statutory requirements for petitioning the court for a "civil protective order," I believe that her case was dismissed without a hearing. Consequently, the bailiff would not know the facts and would not be able to make the mandated report or required to do so. And bailiffs are on duty in the courtroom, essentially they work for the judge, so they are not available to take a report of a suspected crime from a member of the public.

I think it's likely that both the DA and VA would have told Mom to go to the police, which is exactly what the judge told her.

IMO, the best way to get this case to the police would have been for the judge to refer the case to the police the minute he read the petition and understood that Mom's "civil" allegations of "sexual harrassment" and "stalking" actually were allegations of a host of "criminal" acts by MP against Mom's 13 year old daughter, including sexual assault and stalking.

 

[not_my_kids]

Was the "boyfriend" in that case an adult? They might charge two underage persons for sending photos to each other, but I don't see that happening when a child sends photo to an adult.

Yes, both in cases where the reciever was an adult and in cases where the reciever was another child.

In most places the law just says that anyone possessing child or anyone distributing child be charged, it does not make allowances for coercion, fear, age of the distributor, or the fact that the picture may be in one of themselves.

And while it should be up to the prosecutor to waive those charges in cases where the victim was coerced, that doesn't mean that they will. If the kid has a history, or they don't buy the coercion story, then they won't necessarily drop those charges.

JMO. I don't even know if that was what happened in this case, just pointing it out. The spirit of the law and the letter of the law are two wildly different things. The spirit of the laws was to protect children, the letter of the law says charge them all, even the child.

 

[billisbobby]

IMHO, there was no reason whatsoever for mom to have sleuthed before leaving her children with him. The only information she needed to know was right in front of her nose. Mom DID know that her father was a convicted, registered child molester. Mom DID know that was just peachy fine moving in with and taking care of this convicted, registered child molester. Mom DID know that actively CHOSE to live in a viper's den of RSO's. He didn't have to live there. He wasn't a RSO himself; but voluntarily chose to live with them and associate with them. didn't move to the sex offender park to take care of child molester grandpa; he already lived there by choice. That should have told mom all she needed to know about the values and perspective of .

Mom didn't need to sleuth anything. Anyone with an ounce of protective instinct for their children would never allow their children to be anywhere near this convicted, registered child molester or his live-in sidekick, much less given them free 24/7 unsupervised access for a week.

I ask you this - would ANY of you allow your children anywhere near this convicted, registered child molester and his side-kick? Or give your children to either of them for even 5 seconds? I don't think so.

There is no excuse on God's green earth for that. None. Mom knew everything she needed to know about this and the danger he and child molester grandpa both posed to her children and she brought them like a lamb to the slaughter nonetheless. She gets no pass from me.

Without question, Charleston. You said it much better than I could.
bbm
imoo
imoo

 

[Cubby]

I was molested by my oldest brother for 7 years. When I finally told a teacher, who alerted authorities, my brother was arrested at his college & my parents were called to come to my school, where they were told what was going on. In front of the principal, my mom was solicitous & nice to me, but as soon as we were in the car to go home, she turned on me & wanted to know why I'd made up such lies about my brother. He admitted that he'd abused me & my mother STILL refused to believe it. To this day, my entire family protects my brother & maintains he's a great guy. Even one of my sisters who was also abused by him (he molested both her & me on our parents' bed). The story that my family maintains is that I lied about my brother for attention. The fact that he was convicted of a class A felony means nothing except that I was horribly malicious in trying to wreck his life.

What's my point? I'm not horribly damaged even though I spent my life in an environment where molestation was an "okay" thing & the victim was blamed & demeaned & treated like crap once the truth came out. I grew up pretty screwed up, but counseling & choosing to cut my biological family out of my life so that the cycle of abuse could be broken & my own children could be spared the crap I went through was the route I chose.

I know it's not an easy road for survivors of incest, but dang it, TS didn't have to choose to give her children to a convicted felon!!! I don't care HOW bad her childhood was! I DON'T CARE how challenging her life has been. There's no good excuse in my book for not taking care of your kids. Absolutely zero. As such, I am so thoroughly disgusted by the adults involved in this case that I want to.... well, I can't say 'cuz it would get me a T.O.

Amen! Thank you for sharing this so elequently joshiesmom. I have to agree with you. To say otherwise, imo, implies as adults we are without freewill and without choices to seek improvement and that everything happens by chance and by luck. We have choices everyday, some are not easy and no, I just can't give someone a blank pass because they were lucky or unlucky.

JMVHO

 

[TexasCharm]

Okay, I don't see anywhere that states her entire body was chopped up and put into freezer bags.

She was in a trash bag in the freezer. Then he dismembered her and stated that he put "small pieces of her" in freezer bags ....

This doesn't necessarily mean that ALL of her was in small pieces in freezer bags.


Sicko.

Imo.

 

[not_my_kids]

Did he go and buy freezer bags on Thursday? I hadn't got him pegged as the homemaker type who would always have lots of freezer bags handy because he cooks so much and freezes home made pies, casseroles, hand picked berries and other fresh produce etc.

My grandma used to always have a lot of freezer bags around, she would use them to sort out her daily meds for the week, or to keep her hairnets in, all kinds of things. They might have been left over from Grandfather Lemmon. Or, since we can assume that grandfather was relatively low income, he might have bought a lot of meat bundles, and you have to have freezer bags or you will be trying to freeze ten pounds of hamburg at the same time.

He might even have gone around and borrowed some from the neighbors, not telling them what they were for, maybe even saying he bought a meat bundle and didn't have the freezer bags to split it up. It's a low income park, people are probably used to helping their neighbors out here and there.

 

[my_tee_mouse]

http://www.journalgazette.net/article/2 ... /301019918
Service providers offer care options



http://www.scanfw.org/page/daybreakcrisishomes.html
Daybreak Crisis Homes

It's been my experience (all too often) that there are many resources out there...but the folks that need them do not know a thing about them.

 

[jjenny]

My grandma used to always have a lot of freezer bags around, she would use them to sort out her daily meds for the week, or to keep her hairnets in, all kinds of things. They might have been left over from Grandfather Lemmon. Or, since we can assume that grandfather was relatively low income, he might have bought a lot of meat bundles, and you have to have freezer bags or you will be trying to freeze ten pounds of hamburg at the same time.

He might even have gone around and borrowed some from the neighbors, not telling them what they were for, maybe even saying he bought a meat bundle and didn't have the freezer bags to split it up. It's a low income park, people are probably used to helping their neighbors out here and there.

I don't know why we should assume grandpa was a low income. He likely had pension before he died. One can buy a whole bunch of those bags for less than $10.00. I am sure grandpa could have afforded to purchase freezer bags.

 

[not_my_kids]

I don't know why we should assume grandpa was a low income. Wasn't he in the military? Why wouldn't he have pension and all that goes alone with it. One can buy a whole bunch of those bags for less than $10.00. I am sure grandpa could have afforded to purchase freezer bags.

That's what I said, they were likely left over from Grandpa. I'm pretty sure he was low income, because there are better places to live, even as a sex offender than the trailer park...just sayin. He needed someone to help care for him, yet he had no visiting nurse, he had to find someone on his own to help him out.

I thought the stepfather was military, but I could be wrong, it's possible Lemmon was too. Even if he was, those pensions aren't all they're cracked up to be. There's still an awful lot of month left at the end of the money, for many people, even left on a pension.

 

[AngelWings444]

ssa-thank you for your post.

It's my understanding a criminal protective order can be issued by any LE officer, right on the spot, when a report is taken. My point was, the judge could have and should have, had the victim go with the bailiff to file a report, should have referred them to victim's services, CPS, immediately. This judge, the court, and the system failed this 13 year old girl. MP was not held accountable for his actions, and who knows how many other little girls were also lost in the "system."

 

[billisbobby]

And I think in this case both mom and grandma saw a 'caretaker.' They saw this guy as the one who took care of their dying father/ex-husband. And apparently the girls spent a lot of time in that trailer during that time. So maybe in their minds this was a safe place for them to be. imoo

I apologize in advance. Caretaker? Really? THUD
I disagree. imoo

 

[Cubby]

Since she was quite adept on the internet, Facebook and such it should not have been hard for her to search Mike P and find out about his background.

Poor parenting, poor judgement, whatever. Her child is DEAD due to her judgement. Mike P killed her but mommy was sitting at home on the Facebook when she should have been taking care of her.

The buck has to stop somewhere

Add to that mom wasn't unaware of grandpa's crime(s).
She wasn't unaware her daughter had already been abused twice.
She wasn't unaware of the residents of the tp being RSO's when she made the choice to move her family there.

These are choices she made WITHOUT blinders on, because we have MSM to prove what she was aware of prior to making these choices.

'nuff said and jmo

 

[Melanie]

MP is responsible for the death of Aliahna. However, I simply can't get beyond a "mother" knowing her 9 year old has been abused by two different men, yet she leaves her with a man for a week. Aliahna was a disabled CHILD, who was preyed on in the past. As a mother, I would not have let her out of my sight, period! Boo hoo that she was "ill", there is no excuse in my book. Her mother's judgement sucked back when Aliahna was a victim of abuse, when she moved into the trailer park, and leaving her with MP. No facts will change my opinion that the mother is not a good parent, who is incapable of making wise choices for her children.

BBM. I thought Ali was abused by Kennedy in the past. Who is the second guy (besides MP). Not that it makes any gosh darn difference....1 is 1 too many.

MOO

Mel

 

[billisbobby]

Ok so Mom possibly asked the father "if there were RSO in the trailor park" lets just say he did say no no no everyone here is safe and wouldnt touch a child...

OK with that being said.. hmmmm was the 19 year old who molested AL previous was not a RSO BEFORE he molested her... meaning that they are only RSO AFTER they are caught/prosecuted... therefore Mom should of had one ounce of common sence.. and thought.. hey this has happened before.. but no she practically served her little one on a plate to this guy.

Why did it matter if RSO in area..She allready had this happen to her with the 19 year old.. he wasnt a RSO UNTIL AL.. not before.

This woman due to the circumstances previous with her daughter, the father being a RSO, and letting her little ones stay with a man for a week IMO is no way to be forgiven.. this is beyond bad parenting.

sherryK,
You are right.
The mother knew...she KNEW.

bbm
red by me
imoo

 

[NFYIAMY]

Ok – this is what it says in the probable cause document:

“The Defendant stated in the late evening hours of Thursday December 22, 2011 and the early morning hours of December 23, 2011 he dismembered Aliahna’s body by cutting it up with a hacksaw. The Defendant stated he then placed small pieces of Aliahna’s body in freezer bags and disposed of them in a dumpster located at a nearby business. The Defendant further advised Aliahna’s head, feet and hands were still in his freezer at his residence.”

So as it stands right now (and until more charging documentation is offered up) it is written to say that all but her head, hands and feet were cut into small pieces and put into freezer bags and disposed of into the dumpster.

 

[hkhart]

I've found some information on MP family - not sure what I can post - it is from an obituary dated 1997.

 

[NFYIAMY]

If you're concerned about posting it - send it to a MOD for approval first?

 

[Noway]

The friend (meaning MP) told police Lemmon had fallen asleep in a chair in her clothes, not pajamas Thursday night. Police said she was last seen wearing a blue and black plaid coat with fur around the hood, a silver and white sweater dress with white tights and black shoes with bows.

She was still at his home around 6 a.m. Friday, but at 10 a.m. he saw a pile of her clothes by that chair and assumed she was still there.


http://www.wane.com/dpp/news/local/police-looking-for-missing-fw-girl

Silver and white sweater dress (as shown in missing poster)
white tights
black shoes with bows
blue and black coat with fur-trimmed collar

Were any of these clothes found in the pile?

If so, then she would have "left the house" in something else ... and if all her clothes were accounted for ... that would not add up now, would it (thinking of what in his initial stories did not add up for LE).

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2103134,00.html

Authorities didn't say Tuesday why Plumadore killed the child, but Sheriff Ken Fries said investigators suspected Plumadore was involved since soon after she was reported missing Friday night.
Investigators questioned him Friday and Saturday and he was arrested Monday after being interviewed by detectives for several hours more.
Fries said his long police career told him that Plumadore's account of the girl's disappearance had too many inconsistencies. "Things that were said in 29 years of doing this that just didn't make sense," Fries said during a Tuesday news conference. "We needed to get him to talk."​

 

[billisbobby]

I don't have a facebook but was just wondering. Does everyone on FB have regular heart to heart talks with everyone else about what is going on in their lives? The impression I get is that FB is somewhat like life. Where some 'friends' are close with regular contact, with behind the scenes talks. And some 'friends' are more like aquaintances, where you approve their friend requests and maybe you email them or comment on them a little, or maybe you don't.

By which I mean just because they are friends on FB doesn't mean they actually know what is going on in each other's daily lives. Or that they discuss sensitive issues like a predator turning his attention to their child. Or even if they do discuss it, that they might not have alternate opinions on the fact. This is going to PO people, but some people do still blame the victims because of the way the kid dresses or acts, trying to be older. And if they knew that the mother took it to court, with the judge dismissing it with no action, that kinda takes away from theappearance of the legitimacy of the mother's claim too.

So at this point I don't see enough proof of what was in Aliahna's mother's mind. If she knew, if she knew and didn't believe or if she actually didn't know. The info just isn't there.

The info IS there. I posted it here in the wee hours of this morning.
Once again




http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/...57f0defb9074d5

Slain Ind. girl's grandfather was sex offender

By TOM COYNE 27 Dec

FORT WAYNE, Ind. (AP) —
Quote:

To assist her dying father, Tarah Souders made a choice: She moved her three young girls to a run-down trailer park in rural Indiana to help take care of him as his lungs rotted from emphysema.

She knew it could be dangerous. The park of about two dozen homes was teeming with convicted sex offenders, with one living at nearly every address. She worried about neighbors with sex offense records who had been helping her father get by, according to trailer park residents. And before she arrived, she even asked her father if her children could be at risk for abuse from two specific men —