IN - Amanda Blackburn, 28, pregnant, murdered, Indianapolis, 10 Nov 2015 - #2

[DexterMorgan]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Granted Police do use confidential informants in the course of their investigations. your insinuation that cases only get solved because of informants is kind of insulting (retired law enforcement). Police work is tedious information given by informants is a tool. Their information must be supported by facts to support a prosecution. As you stated informants are self serving therfore must be vetted. The notion that All cases will be solved and investigators are only as good as the informant is the tail wagging the dog!

You do realize that most terror attacks are prevented due to confidential informants on the inside. And not always by undercover stings.

Also most big drug dealers since the 80s were busted primarily from info giving by ci's.

I doubt the feds or police stumbled across a million dollar seized worth of drugs or anything else without the help or information from informants that gave them a heads up.

So why are you insulted by the suggestion.


Btw. Did i say all cases will be solved with a ci.

Or did i just say that the more ci's the easier things will be to know who's who and when certain things are planned to go down.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Forgive me if it's been addressed, it's SO easy to miss details in a thread that moves as fast as this one is:

Have LE confirmed any stolen items from the home, aside from AB's bank card?

 

[MaxManning]

imo it is a denial

"nothing" to show a sexual assault is just that

nothing

No disruption of clothing, no bruising, no semen, I don't want to get really graphic but when a lady wakes up in the morning she's kinda sealed shut and they've done an autopsy with a rape kit which showed "nothing", the timeframe doesn't lend itself to a rape, the burglary doesn't either.

I can tell you from experience a Murder with a sexual assault is a whole other ball game and would most likely involve us being shown an efit, the entire footage of the perp, the Alleged ATM close up, Public Warnings etc. The crime scene remaining sealed!

Basically I cant PROVE the Police are telling the truth re. sexual assault, but there is a pile of evidence that says There Was No Sexual Assault so Im going with that.

That is one puzzling part to me and leads me to believe they are more certain that they let on about what happened. Instead of fasttracking information like photos that would help find a burglar, they seem to be purposefully deceptive about what they know. So one has to think about the motivation behind such behavior. Crime scene being released so quickly, is the most puzzling if they truly are still searching for the murderer.

 

[Dushi]

Forgive me if it's been addressed, it's SO easy to miss details in a thread that moves as fast as this one is:

Have LE confirmed any stolen items from the home, aside from AB's bank card?

AFAIK, they have not confirmed or denied it
Please.. anyone.. correct me if I am wrong

 

[bluesneakers]

http://inmateinfo.indy.gov/IML

Thank you!

 

[SapphireSteel]

Forgive me if it's been addressed, it's SO easy to miss details in a thread that moves as fast as this one is:

Have LE confirmed any stolen items from the home, aside from AB's bank card?

Have police confirmed the bank card thing or is it a "sources say" it was used?

Do you have a link, ta

 

[RainCheck]

I really do not want to believe she was raped. It's too horrifying to think the perp could have walked in, determined she was alone, raped her and executed her all in a 30 minute window. Then calmly just walk away.

 

[SapphireSteel]

He? My goodness. Your quote is riddled with opinion, not fact. I give. :facepalm:

"FACT" is thin on the ground in this case.

Opinion is all we have, and its what the entire site is for.

 

[SapphireSteel]

As far as police saying "no signs of sexual assault" and it being some type of ploy

Give a moments thought to what sort of Public Outcry if they then turn around and say "oh yeah we lied about the sexual assault thing"

Not only is there zero reason to lie about it, lying about it would have NEGATIVE effect and lead to calls of Incompetence, also give fuel to some Arrested guys lawyer to yell "incompetent!"

No, that's not what they would lie about, not directly in a presser.

 

[RainCheck]

Location where sources say her bank card was used according to this news article...

"Eyewitness News has learned someone used one of the 28-year-old mother's bank cards at a gas station at W. 71st Street and Michigan Road."

Anyone here local to the area familiar with this location?

http://www.wthr.com/story/30558459/persons-of-interest-questioned-in-amanda-blackburn-murder

 

[SapphireSteel]

So you think HE was jealous of her beauty, her lifestyle?
Well, I have learned that anything is possible.

And you may be completely correct, time (I hope) will tell

No, im sticking to the TOS.

My personal opinion is far more advanced but I cannot discuss it here.

 

[pappa rob]

Just want to say (again) the local Indy news seems to be run by a bunch of shysters with damn fine imaginations.

I suggest this is why Riddle got so exasperated.

Police are trying to solve a complicated ugly crime and there goes the local media splashing guesses and outright lies across the front pages.

Shame on you, Indianapolis Media. Shame on you.

Sorry but it's not just the Indianapolis Media, it happens all over. Something get's leaked and the reporter either mishears, assumes, or makes it up. Then they make it as salacious as possible, it sells a lot of papers. You have good and bad reporters and editors everywhere.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. ... Benjamin Franklin

 

[SapphireSteel]

Sorry but it's not just the Indianapolis Media, it happens all over. Something get's leaked and the reporter either mishears, assumes, or makes it up. Then they make it as salacious as possible, it sells a lot of papers. You have good and bad reporters and editors everywhere.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. ... Benjamin Franklin

I have rarely seen a Police Spokesperson take a presser the very next day expressly to deny headlines...

It shows at very least a poor relationship between local media and Police

And the "sexual assault" is right up with the "4 suspects" and the "gun found" and the "bankcard used" fictions, all of which seem manufactured by media "sources"...

Nope im ignoring all the local reporting on this one...all of it.

 

[pappa rob]

Is climbing in through a window not considered forced entry?

Only if the window was broken or pried open.

 

[AnaTeresa]

At this point, as far as i know.. we don't know anything about the autopsy details
We do not know how she was dressed.
We do not know where she was found

Correct. We also do not know what LE found at the scene. We certainly have had no statement from LE stating that no DNA, no sign of forced entry, and no disturbance were found. In fact, that would be contrindicted by the media reports of forensics being there and neighbors hearing saws as they collected evidence.

We have had no straight denials from LE. We have only had statements that they cannot confirm. LE are not obligated to tell us every detail of the investigation. A lack of confirmation is not a denial.

 

[bluesneakers]

Sorry but it's not just the Indianapolis Media, it happens all over. Something get's leaked and the reporter either mishears, assumes, or makes it up. Then they make it as salacious as possible, it sells a lot of papers. You have good and bad reporters and editors everywhere.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. ... Benjamin Franklin

People say believe half of what you see, Son and none of what you hear - Marvin Gaye

 

[SapphireSteel]

I not arguing about it, jealously is a powerful motivator
I can certainly see how a sick person could get wrapped up in the power and control over another person

I know of cases where a jealous woman killed her rival.

We all do.

Theres plenty of examples.

 

[bessie]

Yerp, they processed it quickly and found no prints, no dna, no signs of breakin, absolutely nothing but Amanda on the floor.

and they don't EXPECT to find anything else

Arrest imminent imo. Crime scenes released that early? Someone's getting their ducks in a row...

Please provide a link which states evidence processing has been completed.

Police looking closely at evidence and tips in Blackburn case
Posted 8:49 PM, November 18, 2015, by Jake Miller, Updated at 08:51pm, November 18, 2015

Detectives were back in the Woods of North Kessler neighborhood today looking for evidence and making sure nothing has been left uncovered.

Investigators are sifting through everything in the case- like the handgun that was found not far from the Blackburn’s home—to the surveillance video showing the man they believe is involved.

Investigators are looking at the finer points of the video- how the man was walking, his gestures and what he may have been doing.

They are monitoring the Blackburn’s financial records.

[...]
“Something as heinous as this… we wanna make sure we leave no stone uncovered,” said IMPD Lieutenant Rich Riddle.

Detectives hope DNA leads to Amanda Blackburn killer
By Julian Grace Published: November 18, 2015, 6:36 pm Updated: November 20, 2015, 3:35 pm

[...]

“They will swab the steering wheel, or the gear shift, or places they know the person who stole the car touched,” said Paul Minser, with Indiana State Police who works with forensics.

[...]
24-Hour News 8, has learned that Marion County Forensic Director Michael Medler is fast tracking the evidence in Blackburn’s case through the DNA process.

 

[Dushi]

I not arguing about it, jealously is a powerful motivator
I can certainly see how a sick person could get wrapped up in the power and control over another person

But I don't think that applies only to a planned attack

 

[SapphireSteel]

Sorry but it's not just the Indianapolis Media, it happens all over. Something get's leaked and the reporter either mishears, assumes, or makes it up. Then they make it as salacious as possible, it sells a lot of papers. You have good and bad reporters and editors everywhere.
Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see. ... Benjamin Franklin

I can assure you my local papers (Murdoch owned) are hand in hand with Police and only print what police tell them.

It is probably different in the States.